Re: Indian men are macho?
by Sathya Sathya on Nov 28, 2011 06:54 PM
One should understand that if men are not serious, they pay for that. Many a times, victims of crimes against men by women are people like you who take everything lightly; many a times, people like you are the easy targets.
Re: Re: Indian men are macho?
by Hehehe on Nov 28, 2011 08:40 PM
sathya sathya, funny indeed,i beleive men will be targets when men cease to be men, men cease to be men when they are violent against their women, men cease to be men when they are not honest and faithful to their women, men cease to be men when they cannot love their women and make her feel like a women, it takes courage and strength to be honest and faithful to your girl, it takes lots of patience and efforts to get your girl madly in love with you, but believe me, once a girl is in true love with you she will always be always yours, no matter and only real men deserve such love, only real men deserve such girls, now get real, get a life, live well and live easy........ btw, the use of stick too counts, hehehe....
Womens' problems are well recorded. Mens problems need to be recognized, heard; for this to take place, men should speak out about their problems first. Men should be serious in this matter and should not be idiots to consider everything a joke or humour. They should understand that they too have many serious problems to face in life.
Men are oppressed to such an extent that they can not even understand that they are oppressed.
Indian men marry late. Before marriage, they should earn enough to support a family; otherwise they cannot marry. They should earn more than their wife. All the dangerous jobs and jobs with health hazards are carried out by men. On an avarage, men work harder. Men are selfmade. Still these are not taken note of anywhere.
People expect men to work whole day doing extremely hard work under extremely harsh envoronments (both physical and mental); then they expect them to cook in homes and change diapers for their babies also.
If women worked outside, men would have happily stayed in home doing cooking. But working women need husbands who work even more and earn even more. Many of even successful women are not selfmade. Will women set up a house (out of their own effort) before marriage and marry a man who does not have a job?
Re: Work by men
by savji on Nov 28, 2011 06:05 PM
"But working women need husbands who work even more and earn even more. Many of even successful women are not selfmade. Will women set up a house (out of their own effort) before marriage and marry a man who does not have a job?"
Re: Work by men
by gaius octavian on Nov 28, 2011 06:21 PM
um there are many successful self made women, and why should a women settle for less? have you seen any of the marriage ads lately , everyone needs an employed bride right now, and as women literacy and employment increases they will be able to make their own choices instead of being forced into arranged marriages against their wish.
Re: Re: Work by men
by Sathya Sathya on Nov 28, 2011 06:45 PM
You told "everyone needs an employed bride right now". But, for women, it is enough if she is employed and earns. But, can a man marry as soon as he gets a job (whatever it may be)? Or, after marriage with a jobless youth, will his wife help to get him a job, if he is unemployed? Or, how many of earning wives send their husbands to colleges to secure better employment?
Even the self made successful women had the advantage of being a woman, which their male counterparts did not have. You are telling "why should women settle for less". This conveys that every thing is just decided by forces of demand versus supply. The macho men in the survey also believed the same way (like you) and thought "why should we do the cooking job while we can get a wife who earns slightly less but does cooking; this way I would have both an earning and cooking wife"; but again, according to you, their mentality caused problems to women.
For the existence of a stable society, not only womens' problems, but mens' problems and perspectives need to be heard too; otherwise pendulum will always move to and fro, but there will never be peace anytime.
Re: Re: Re: Work by men
by agratha dinakaran on Nov 28, 2011 07:29 PM
So what if men work hard? So what if they have to 'settle down' before marriage? No one's really holding them at gunpoint and asking them to get married. Many do it voluntarily, mainly to get laid. It's the women who are often pressurized by family to get married.
Most grooms today expect working women. Women are in equally gruelling jobs and are time-pressed for family affairs. Despite that, they slog the entire day, get home and cook, clean, take care of the kids, and are expected to have sex with their partner. This sounds much less stressful to you, does it, Mr. Satya? Versus a man who "works hard" for the family. Women do so equally and much more.
Despite all of this, do you think it's justified for men to inflict violence on women? If that's the way you think, that's purely disgusting.
If men have so many inner thoughts and feelings boiling within them, why aren't they openly expressing them? Why do they hold it in and let them manifest it in violence and aggression?
"If women worked outside, men would have happily stayed in home doing cooking." That's bullshit, and you know it, mister. FYI, women ARE working, in senior management positions, sometimes doing double shifts. Do you see men sitting at home and cooking? No way. They might be sitting at home and doing nothing, but will wait for the wife to come home and clean and cook for them.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Work by men
by go nature on Nov 28, 2011 08:08 PM
it is all in your thinking. There are plenty of males who do cooking. they never thought it is inferior work. And they call themselves cooking MASTER. They never BIIITTch about cooking. I will enjoy cooking and i don't think it is inferior
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Work by men
by gaius octavian on Nov 28, 2011 08:27 PM
Lets see how you feel after you have to cook for two times a day everyday for decades. this in addition to working.
