If the quality of US education is at par with the MBA stream then it is clear that down the line any economy that employs these geniuses will be in the gutter. Expertise indeed
Indian students now have more choices.Not that they didn't have it earlier.Its just that the awareness thats been growing in the recent times thats made the prospective students to be more choosy when it comes to spending this huge amounts on education. With countries like Sweeden, Norway, NZ relaxing the norms,students are more open to other countries and have realized that these other countries are after all not a bad option at all.
Just a personal opinion after having observed the advertisements, articles etc.
it is that there was a time when indians went only to usa and nowhere else now they have got options of canada/australia/new zealand/singapore etc.any way usa is now on decline and nobody can anything about it. even american's are going abroad for jobs.the age of supreme usa is well and truly over,and dont any of u ever compare india with usa.
These days it is easier to get a job of Rs 12 lacs in India with many options to choose from, than to get even a $50K job in US with any certainty. Hence, the risk does not match rewards so H1B quota is also not filling up. Jobs in US are only available for highly experienced senior pros who can handle all kinds of work and pressure, which is too much of a long shot for most people & so the drop. India would probably do well to use this moment of lull to look inwards and develop their own potential in research & development, industry & efficiency, quality & quantity.
Re: risk does not match rewards
by tar sha on Dec 05, 2009 09:27 PM
H1B quota is not filling up because of tighter control on desi bodyshops who were filing majority of the visas. Do you think any big american company will file papers for someone in india (without face to face interview)and wait till December for that person?
Everything said and done about India's economic progress, it is still very difficult to get a job and establish in India. At the same time there has been an increasing tendency among young Indians to stay in India rather than to move to the US. I am an NRI and work with many Indian engineers (who are in their early to mid twenties) who come to the US on short term projects and stay for few months. Most of them, while they enjoy the lifestyle in the US, are just as happy to go back at the end of the contract. This is in stark contrast to how Indians who came to the US in the 90's used to think. Those days it was perceived to be a great trauma to have to return to India.
Re: My 2 cents
by Loan Shark on Dec 04, 2009 08:20 PM
quote "Most of them, while they enjoy the lifestyle in the US, are just as happy to go back at the end of the contract."
happiness is fake ... most would like to live in USA forever ... when they dont have that opportunity there is no point in lamenting about it.
In 90s, US companies brougt people on H1 and tied them in with GC processing.
These days companies save on taxes by using L visa ... so, no GC, no long term
Re: Re: My 2 cents
by Deepak Nagda on Dec 06, 2009 01:16 AM
Not true to say 'happiness is fake'. Many Indian students are happy to return to India, some immediately out of college, some after some work experience. My three children came back and are happily settled here. True, the city is dirtier here, the traffic chaotic and corruption is endemic, but if you have some money, quality of life isn't bad. Where in west can you afford domestics and chauffeurs at a young enough age?
It is difficult to toil and establish oneself in India than abroad. Reasons are obvious. The ultimate pride of accomplishment lies in proving one's worth by staying afloat and alert in India - merely sourcing the technological capabilities and applications enabled by the seamless integration of people (geographical boundaries having given way) - economically, socially and spiritually. This recognition and awakening amongst the Indian youth is the chief causal factor. The trend will only witness a progressive enhancement in the years to come and that is the reality. This is not to discount any of the reasons advanced for the fall in enrollment of Indian graduates.
The Council of Graduate Schools survey forgot a simple fact behind the decline in Indian graduate studend. The simple reason is our Banks. Till last year our banks were giving education loan easiely to graduate student willing to study abroad, but since last one year it become extremly difficult and more then 50% cases are being rejected or delayed indefinately. So, a decline of 16% is not bad comparing decline of education loan to 50% students.
Re: CGS Forgot A Simple Fact
by critic on Dec 05, 2009 09:31 PM
Excellent point made. This is the only reason there is a decline and nothing else. Most prefer to go abroad because of the fact that money taken thru loans are easily earned merely by doing part time jobs and also the education system abroad is kinda relaxed when compared to the tedious schedules in Indian colleges, where students spend a lot of time at the college but ultimately end with a degree which isnt seen as great one in the eyes of so called westerners or for that matter even most people in our own country.
Re: Re: Re: CGS Forgot A Simple Fact
by Geo on Dec 06, 2009 10:22 AM
Many more Indian students are murdered in India itself. That is no factor at all. If anything your chances of survival are less in India. Added to it there are many more jealous, poor people who want to take away your wealth from successful upper middle class person.
When people starts earning and getting very good salaries at home only... why would they travel 10000 miles to come to a place where they have to leave their families... their loved ones.... Food shortage and water crisis became a problem due to sudden rise in population by NRIs coming back to India .... After a decade India will start importing food also at a global scale.... as the current market wont be able to provide food for all its people....
