'Indian engineers "is a misleading term.300000 engineers cant be clubbed in one category.Their caliber varies from best in the world to possibly worst in the world as the rag tag colleges produce rubbish.But lack of R&D IS NOT a factor. In india both in science and engineering ,practical and creative training is inadequate due lack of facilities as well as lack of aptitude.Indian research is possibly worst in the world.We have achieved so little.We are least referred and least respected. The less research we have the better it is as phoney research spoils every one's image.
RE:India Engineers
by Yogurt on Dec 11, 2004 09:40 AM
Whether, you face it or not, Indian engineers worldwide are employed due to their skills. At the same time, Indian engineers acquiesce to the tempting offers that come from abroad. There is only one debate: whether the engineer will take the offer and make money, or sit in his/her mother country (India) and earn same amounts even after 3 decades. Does the former mean that the engineer is betraying the country and the latter question suggest that the engineer is truthful to his nation? However absurd it may sound, I have no answer to that...do any of you do?
- Looking at the quality of staff, how we will produce quality engineers??
- Govt. of India had made IITs the best institutes in the word but what about other institues?? No check on quality or facility in labs, no higher degree(such as PhD) requirment for Professorship, no fixed rules for admission, no equal grading system all over India.... so many problems but noting much has been done in last 57 years, and if we continue like this we will never change and keep on producing engineers only with degree rather then knowledge!!!
RE:Are our collages really capabel?
by dhairyshil on Oct 12, 2005 02:06 AM
we are talking about quality not about marks.. marks are just a means.. in ur life that doesnt matter so much..
The article is really interesting and a cause of concern. Further, the evaluation system by different States for the Engg. stream vary. Even within the same State, different universities have totally different standards. A uniformity in this evaluation is required. For Eg.a hard working, bright student manages to get 65% in Engg. (after toiling very hard) from a Mumbai university, whereas an avg. student from some interior part of Mah.(say Sangli,Satara or Nagpur...) is able to easily score higher percentage with less hard work. This effects largely when admn.to foreign uni.is sought.
As the statistics shown, there is high increase of eng colleges in the past few years, but I am really worried about the quality of education provided by the institutins. I really wonder like how the AICTE or NBA is giving permissions for the colleges.
Even this is same in the case of Univerisites also.
In this regard I would like to know, to whom we need to complain if the college/university is not providing the education with all basic facilities that is essential for a course. I have seen AICTE giving permissions to the colleges without looking at the facilities available at the college.
And the last but not the least, We, The "YOUTH" of this country need to take care of this suituation right now and control it with out letting it to grow more.
What we produce are 'screw driver technology'engineers.We cannot manufacture our own TV's,music systems,refrigerator's leave alone scooters and cars.A piddily size country like South Korea teaches us how to manufature all the above!!! Our engineers are clerical cadre quality which we refuse to accept. For 50 years we have been driving Ambassador and Fiat,what prevented us from producing better models and so is the case of Scooters,what the Italians gave us 50 years back we still continue to drive the same wihtout any innovations. It was quiet amusing to see Bajaj Auto struggling to place the indicator lights and finally had to copy the Kinetic Honda scooter...embedded into the tail lamp or copy LML with slight modifications in shape...embedded into the body. Our strengths have been pure sciences and hence we did not need any foriegn influence to be self sufficient either in food or space programmes,we have excelled in both these fields. Long live the Indian Engineers...show your superiority in the IT industry...the industry of the mediocre!!!
RE:How Good are Indian Engineers
by sree on Jun 24, 2005 03:29 AM
IT is not a mediocre technology. We are good at programming and people from some other country may be better at something else. why bother about that.As long as we are improving and economy is booming thats good.Not all countries have our IT brain power.
I always wondered why Indian engineers from likes of IIT's (and others) directly move directly on to pursuing MBA's!! Whereas in Europe and U.S, an engineer is a well trained technical personnel only out to focus on hard core technical work. The IIT'ians I spoke to said they did not learn much during their study there. Infact, an electrical engineer from IIT-Delhi said at the end of the four years, he wasn't trained well enough to know properly the points of an electrical circuit. So guess if IIT'ians haven't done the job well, what can we expect for the rest of the engineering colleges!!
RE:indian engineers
by Phil Vin on Dec 09, 2004 06:10 PM
Its nothing like that IITians are taught badly the only differnece is that in india people madly follow the crowds At 12 th class they dont know why they are going to IIT .Only cause everybody going that way so let it be
Then after completing also its the same way.They only see money and where the crowd is going.They cant think this much that they could start their own company by working on one of the core technology
management is in built .you cant develop it by going to a B school.Its only that you move along the flow
PLus here the gradation is pretty bad .A technical person should and a managerial person should get the same amount of money if they have got the same level of experience.Because everybody is behind money only
RE:indian engineers
by kshitij on Jul 18, 2005 01:57 PM
it wud b completely wrong 2 critisise iit-way of teachin. the only reason y iitians go for mba after graduation is that in india, core jobs r not as attractive as u get after mba.US universities add a little bit of post graduation element in undergraduate courses itself.i feel sorry for ur iit-d friend who doesnt seem 2 hav idea abt electical circuits in d final yr. while there r other iitians who design hi tech robots in their 2nd year itself(if feasible....c it urself at techfests of iits). i m not commenting in d post graduate courses but the ug courses offered by d iits r by far listed in d most competitive ones(ask any US senate member)!!
RE:Engineering Education
by SREEKUMAR C. on Dec 11, 2004 10:56 AM
Hello,
Those days were over long back.Now inn Kerala almost 85( even the govt. dosen,t know the exact figure)engg colleges. More than that the intake of all the colleges had increased. Compared to the population of Kerala the number is on the upperside only. Now a days engg education in Kerala is a big business, thanks to the policies of the Antony government. Till 1990 only 5 engg. colleges were there,all Govt. controlled colleges. till 1996,12 colleges,directly all indirectly controlled b y the gov t. When the antony government was i power last time, the number of colleges had raised to 85 by giving noc to all priv ate self financing engg colleges controlled by caste based or religion based lob bies.. So Kerala has all the merits and c redits to include in the list.
KArnataka is not left out because the author has mentioned only four states, the fifth one is KARNATAKA.
You Can't Compair Money due to currency difference you have to compair Quality and Quantity of output per engg. and also should take into account the amount of efforts by each person.
