They acquired very green and fertile land in W Bengal for SEZs. They blame Andhra Govt for SEZs who did excellant work in inviting outside investments by locating SEzs mostly on sea side on waste lands and creating more employment to the public. By locating SEzs in these useless lands the land value of other side by lands exceeded by enhancing the value for their lands because of newly industrialized ares that have come in Rural areas which were otherwise totally useless. This dual policy of left having one strategy to their ruled states and speaking agaist non communist states on SEZ policy- All this has been realized by the people of this country. In Nuclear Deal they that they can pull down a legitimate Govt against the wishes of the people. The honourable way could be express their dissent and continued their support to UPA Govt.If communists are against USA, Why India should not take support from USA and other Nuclear suppier Group for civil nuclear energy requirements of India,as being done By China. Mr Karat and Party lack a vision for the Development of this country. For them a blind pursuit of their ideology is more important than the Nation.For their ideology they cna boast other foreign Nations at the expense of India. The only contribution of communists could be to support programmes like nationalization of Banks and NREGA in supporting congrss Govt eventhough these schems are not exclusive of Communists. Except this they have not contributed anyhting for the De
Re: Contd...
by Govind Lal on May 18, 2009 04:35 PM
Mr.Patriot Some points to ponder on SEZ act
SEZ act has several clauses which can be used for colonization.
Policy paper was finalized in 2004.
This act was passed in the parliament without serious debate. Just two days. 10th and 11th May 2005.
Lot of fertile land will be acquired for SEZ-by force.
Landless and Agricultural labourers will be displaced without compensation.
Destruction of land-based economy
Labour laws of India not applicable to SEZ.
Revenue Losses due to unnecessary tax concessions: estimated Rs 1,75,487 crores for the first ten years
Regional and sectoral imbalances: threatening federal system.
Status of deemed “foreign territory” to SEZs will make government machinery ineffective.
No space for popular concerns or public consultation
SEZ Act provides legislative and judicial support to privatization of the country’s resources and has the potential to destabilize the democratic governance system.
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by Govind Lal on May 18, 2009 04:37 PM
This is a historic nuclear deal when viewed by nuclear lobbies. For India it is a notorious deal signed by opportunists and traitors. We allowed another country to pass a legislation in their parliament for India to follow. What a ridiculous declaration! They passed the Hyde act for India to follow. The contentious issues in the Hyde act are here. 1. No freedom to handle spent fuel. 2. No guarantee for alternate fuel supply 3. India is not a technology developer but a recepient. 4. India to side with US in NPT 5. India to participate with US National Security Administration for NPT. 6. Reporting of US President on the efforts of India in containing IRAN. 7. India denied space related dual use technology 8. India denied strategic planning of nuclear programms. 9. Stopped India in the production of fissile materials. 10.No joint move for universal nuclear disarmament. 11.All future agreements are to be in consistent with this act. To know the debt trap behind the deal read my postings under " 'No downturn for India's nuclear power plan" 22.1.09 rediff. The funny part is that even now MMS and party is justifying the declaration. It is India's fate!!!
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by sumanta chatterjee on May 18, 2009 06:29 PM
Thanks Mr. Lal for your enlightening article on Hyde Act. but as far as I understand, Hyde Act is a domestic US act and is binding on US and not India. Secondly India has not signed the NPT....so where is the question of India siding with US on NPT. The treaty also called the 123 treaty is totally different from Hyde Act. There are no clauses in 123 which enforce India to report US about Iran. So far as spent fuel is concerned( which we all know is toxic) there are clauses in 123 which clearly define how to store/dispose off the wastes for the safety of the people. So far as supply of alternate fuel supply, please note that nuclear energy is being considered as an alternate energy source. Nobody has stopped you to develop your technology, but the treaty guarantees you some better technologies available at present.India has developed her space technology herself and if necessary she will develop space related nuclear use herself. The whole treaty is about alternate energy source and nothing else. Who gave the indication that India has been stopped from making fissile material? Go thru the 123 treaty and then write.123 treaty has got nothing to do with nuclear disarmament. Please do not misguide others.
Re: Re: Re: Contd...
by Govind Lal on May 19, 2009 12:38 PM
sumanta Please read Hyde act well. At least three times. Also read my postings under "No downturn for India's nuclear power plan" 22.1.09 rediff. I wish you come back with your comments. Just to correct myself.
Re: Re: Re: Contd...
by Govind Lal on May 19, 2009 12:37 PM
sumanta Please read Hyde act well. At least three times. Also read my postings under "No downturn for India's nuclear power plan" 22.1.09 rediff. I wish you come back with your comments. Just to correct myself.
Left was rightly thrown out for their arrogance shown towards people. Mr Prakash Karat and Yechury think that they can treat a Prime Minister of India just like the way in which they used to treat the Vice Chancellors in the JNU when they were students. These people came from upper castes and having urban education have no idea of poverty and difficulties faced by the Rural poor. Having reached to top posts in the Polit bureau, They have no respect for their seniors like Jyothi Basu and Somnathchatterjee. They do not have access to the common worker of communist Party who are mostly from the poor or Dalits. They do not allow in any States like Andhra Pradeh to come to top leadership from poorer sections. Even there the uppercaste leaders go to the top rung and do not allow the real leadership to the people who come from lower levels.The top leadership always want to come to power by having alliances with other regional parties who are totally opportunistic to come to power. They maintain double standards.For example they joined hands with petty regional Party like TRS who want to devide state for selfish reasons. Even though CPM believes in integration they joined hands with TDP and TRS who announced separate statehod much to the deslike of people of AP. CPM followed a dual policy with regard to SEZs. In AP most of the Govt lands developed by APIIC a public sector for SEZs on lease. The lands were totally useless for agricultural purpose growing casuarina or dry crops
Re: Left was thrown out for their arrogance
by ngadarsha rao on May 18, 2009 03:23 PM
YOU FOOL COMMIES DONT IDENTIFY THEMSELVES BY UPPER CATE OR LOWER CASTE ONLY BY HOW STRONG THEY ARE WITH THEIR IDEALOGY
Re: Re: Left was thrown out for their arrogance
by SRINATH RAO on May 19, 2009 01:43 PM
i think the leftout leftys supported caste based reservation to economic based reservation suggested by BJP.now just seee who is fool
Left is an evil force everywhere in the world. It is made up of frustrated pseudo-intellectuals who have an Utopian vision of human nature, far removed from reality. Nehru was one such person and India registered no progress until his policies were reversed. It was a byproduct of the Industrial age in Europe. Conditions have changed everywhere since then but the left ideology has remained static.
Re: Left is static
by kancheepuram narasimhan on May 18, 2009 03:12 PM
you said it. absolutely correct. Left ideology has to change. The so called Left-idiots- were totally against computerization in Railways/ LIC/ Banks. They did babdhs/ gheraos/ morchas. Today Computer is every where. The Jokers called Left- foreign educated ( is he???) Prakash must know that times change fast and u must go withthat. The ideologies of left are fit only for 18th Century. Please note that I am not against communism- but against the Communiists whose only job is to incite workers to strike, close mills/ factories and starve workers family. This is what Prakash, Bengalis/ Malayalees did. Nothing else. See how Gujrat/ Karnataka/ TN/ AP/ Haryana prospered. Can not they learn lesson? Prakash/ Bardan- I have immense respect for EMS/ AKG/ HK Surjeet. but not for you people whose aim is to starve workers.
Re: Re: Left is static
by Govind Lal on May 18, 2009 04:47 PM
Consider the following points and think over Take the fact “Acting out of desire is not approved of, but here on earth there is no such thing as no desire. Desire is the very root of conception of a definite intention. Everything that one does is motivated by the desire precisely for that thing”
Capitalism advocate action based on DESIRE of individual. ( A personal attribute)
Communism advocate action based on the desire of society (STATE).
Capitalism encourages the desire of individuals. Free market economics is the corollary. Fuming desire is destructive to the state. That is what we see in the MELT DOWN.
Communism do not encourage rather suppress desires of individuals. Thus the individual looses initiative. That also slows down the progress of state. That happened in USSR. Result collapse of the state.
Indian Constitution visualizes a middle path. I think this is more advisable.
The governments regulate the desires (micro/macro) of individuals. We call it governance. All enactments are aimed to achieve/regulate some target (desires).
For this CPM govt WE THE PEOPLE OF WEST BENGAL SUFFERED A LOT.i LEFT KOLKATA BECAUSE THERE WAS NO JOB IN BENGAL 1990,TO GET JOB AT MUMBAI.THEY FINISHED THE STATE.
A FLASH IN THE PAN. 2009 has also shown great promise for BJP in WB in as much as the party not only wrested Darjeeling from cangi's clutches but also gave a stiff challenge in 5-6 seats that ensured UPA's crushing defeat despite the fact that it fought the election on its own. This goes to show that if BJP's central leadership buck up their minds and reckons the state of WB which offers 42 seats for LS seriously, the party will in jig time move to a winnable position in atleast 5-6 seats namely-Barasat, KoochBihar,Jalpaigudi Diamond Harbour, DumDum, KrishnaNagar. But for that to happen, they will have to sweat blood keeping in mind that Rome was not built in a day and that at the end of the day success primarily hingres on sweat glands.TMC won WB as there was no creditable force that could give these commies a run for their money. TMC won on a negetive vote rather than on popular mandate.
Re: UPA's pyrrhic victory in 2009 is nothing if not
by srikanth p on May 18, 2009 02:24 PM
the bottom line is - they won, you lost. nothing else counts right now.
Re: Re: UPA's pyrrhic victory in 2009 is nothing if not
by Shaunak Basu on May 18, 2009 03:05 PM
@srikanth: You are absolutely right. @typhoid: Hope you are alright. Best of luck, without GNLF's support BJP would have bitten the dust in Darjeeling as well. Keep dreaming. Sweet dreams.
It's so ridiculous to say "Left front" is "evil" forces. Dear congress leaders, you cannot forget this real "brothers" who have supported you last time when you were troubling to form the government. They have taken a right decision to not support evil force like BJP at that time. Till the 4th year "Left" were with you like colleagues. Their valuable advises help you to gain more reputation. Now you have again chosen by people because of your good rule along with left parties .At least you must thankful to them. It is so sad to say in fact that in WB and Kerala, congress had contested against Left parties with the help of all true evil forces. In WB you were with trinamool congress. In Kerala, you had votes from all evil forces (even BJP). you must call BJP as true evil forces, then yourself and then "Left"(if necessary!). Your victory is through money and power. Left leaders are true intelligent and uncorrupt people. In WB and Kerala BJP is weak because of Left. Left parties are more secular than Congress.
Re: Evil forces are BJP and Congress
by Atanu Chatterjee on May 18, 2009 01:51 PM
Not sure how u measure evilness, but we havent seen much development in bengal for last 3 decades as compared to other parts of the country. If not evil the left are outdated and should not be in the ruler's seat. A small fraction can be in the opposition though. And its a minority generic feeling to call BJP as evil. If you remember we had very good governance under BJP in 1999 - 2004. But if u'r calling Bajrang dal, MNS, Ram Sena, SIMI as evil then i would agree with u.
Re: Evil forces are BJP and Congress
by Govind Lal on May 18, 2009 04:53 PM
Election is a WAR GAME. There should not be any soft peddaling. Congress tried to kill its partner for four and half years. That is the true war. But CPM did consider Congress as a former partner. CPM engaged in the war with the sweet reminiscence of pleasures enjoyed for four plus years. CPM did not expose the mishandling of foreign policy and N-deal by congress to the public. Natural to doubt the credentials of CPM. They may be a co-partner in all wrong policies of Congress. May be some Congress sympathizers do present in all the forums of CPM (Politburo, Central committee etc)
Re: Evil forces are BJP and Congress
by Shaunak Basu on May 18, 2009 03:10 PM
Secular in what sense? Minority pleasing. But so sad, in bengal atleast these very minorities even booted them out. Minorities don't need so called protection from communal hawks. They need their palce in the sun. If muslims keep on opening meat shops, and being jharudars - even the communal hawks wont mind. The hell breaks loose when they want their share of the pie, as in Gujarat. And what is the way of determining "true intelligence" ?. And uncorrupt West Bengal CPM, publeeze give me a break. Remember Chandan Bose (Bengal Lamp Scandal), Jyotirmoyee sikdar's husband's sleeze racket which got busted and the poor officer was promptly transferred. Get a life
Re: Evil forces are BJP and Congress
by gaurav agarwal on May 18, 2009 01:53 PM
If you look deep enough into any state ot country where communists have had an upper hand you would see thses are highly authoritative and self pleasing economies. They often rule by restricting information flow and terrorising people. Democracy in itself in not the cure. But it has the advantage of being an open forum. For years we had bad politicians at the top but today things have changed for a little better, this transformation was possible because there was space for arguments and learning. Power should always rely with people thats is one way of ensuring the chosen leaders work hard to retain the responsiblity bestowed on them by the ones who chose them.
Re: Evil forces are BJP and Congress
by Patriot on May 18, 2009 03:58 PM
You say Left is uncorrupt. Please see the facts yourselves. The independent studies published in papaers, show that West Bengal and Kerala are the states categorized under highly corrupt. Where as states like Punjab. Andhra Pradesh are categorized under moderately corrupt. The number of poor people in WBengal is higher and closer to Orissa than the Southern States, eventhough states like AP has vast extent of backward areas included, they could successfully reduce poverty levels. WB failed to do this eventhough left ruled for 30 years.
All the shameful LEFT supporters should be hiding their face .LEFT leaders an Anti West party whose every leader starts his day sitting in Western closet and thinking to develop India ??? I so geratful to the people of West Bengal ! Hope there is new hope of ray for west Bengal !!
Left Parties means CPIM/CPI/RSP/Forward Block by name its looks very ugly they are great enemy of country who ever supporing these parties also traiotr/terrorists and killer men who generally hiding in blacky faces dump them in Red Sea together. Against people against relegions, against all and everythings.
Re: Left Must be Lefted Out from India
by mahabodhi on May 18, 2009 12:57 PM
Forward Block was founded by Netaji !But yes manuwadis will never rembemer anything other than their own intersts ......
Re: Re: Left Must be Lefted Out from India
by Shaunak Basu on May 18, 2009 01:19 PM
Yeah! but he never that his party will tie up with a party that called him dog (Tojo's Dog to be exact). And just because Forward block was founded by Netaji doesn't make it a holy grail, does it? Then why not cogress, it was in all practical sense founded by Gandhi Ji ?
Re: Left Must be Lefted Out from India
by Mainuddin Mahmud on May 18, 2009 01:03 PM
NOT LEFT. POLLUTED MINDED POLITICIANS OF THE LEFT LIKE "KARAT / BARDHAN / BRINDA" MUST BE HOOTED OUR OF LEFT PARTIES. THEY ARE ABSOLUR CULPRITS.
