Re: Exit Poll ( copy this and match with election result
by sanju thomas on May 15, 2009 12:38 AM
This survey was done by private agency in association with 3 news channels and 7 news
papers.This exit poll will predict the Maxium seats and Minimum Seats for each parties
Dear TElangana Supporters, Just understand we Telugus shd be united. Divided we will fall. Out whole identity is through the form of the our State. Every teluguite is regognized. But if state seperates then Telangana will be Urdu state. All telugus will don't have a voice. Think.Seperate state will not get any thing. Only greedy politicians will get their positions and money
Re: Telugu pride , united State
by Indian on May 15, 2009 01:15 AM
India should be split in such a way that every house is one state. So will have more than 100 million states. Each person of the house should be able to collect tax from his house (state) members. you can choose members of the house (wife/children/parents/siblings) to be in your cabinet ministry and recruit some of them to daily tasks and pay them (pocket money). you can have elections every 5 years, where you will be the only candidate. You can still do booth capturing in your own house, to make sure that all your members (family members) vote for you. If there is a rebellion in your house, you can ask him/her to register her own state (house) and rule that state.
Re: Re: Telugu pride , united State
by Ram Online on May 15, 2009 02:00 AM
If there is popular movement, and if that can sustain financially, then Parliament should create that state. In both the cases Telangana is eligible to be a state and Parliament should create it.
Re: Telugu pride , united State
by Ram Online on May 15, 2009 01:12 AM
More than 88% of Telanganites are Telugus. So don't worry about Telanangan becoming Urdu state. We should look into needs to needs of all the communites, so that we all progress together.
Re: Re: Telugu pride , united State
by Sharath on May 15, 2009 02:05 AM
Are you sure more than 88% of Telangana people are Telugus. - Was that your guess or KCR told you so. Please check the actual records. Dont dream or believe in political leaders.
Re: Re: Re: Telugu pride , united State
by Ram Online on May 15, 2009 02:27 AM
Look in wiki for hyderabad and Ap, in demographics section, you will have an idea. Outside Hyderabad, pretty much everybody speaks telugu.
Re: Re: Re: Telugu pride , united State
by Ram Online on May 15, 2009 02:25 AM
Only Hyderabadi muslims speak Urdu(some of them biligual). Outside Hyderabad, all most all the muslims speak Telugu. According to wikipedia, 11%(about 80lakhs) of AP population is Muslim of which about 20lakhs are in Hyderabad. Telangana pupulation is about 3 crores. Pouplation of AP i about 7 crores. Now, you make the calculation.
Re: Telugu pride , united State
by Ram Online on May 15, 2009 01:05 AM
Get your facts right. Urdu is popular in Muslims of Hyderabad only. In rural areas muslims speak Telugu. BTW, 12% Telanganites are mulsims. Biggest concentration of muslims is in Hyderabad city. You don't have to worry Telangana becoming urdu state. Anyways we should not neglect interests of any section of society including muslims.
why cant we give Jammu and Kashmir,Why cant we give away Sikkim, Arunachal Pradesh, whole of North east freedom from India. Until the British came there is no Country called India, they were 1000 princely states and a falling Mughal Empire always fighting with eachother. We are fighting with eachother from time immemorial, it is very easy to divide and rule a country like India. from 1857 to 1947 freedom figthers want to die for the sake of being called an Indian. Some illetrates do not realise this, with our large poppulation we have enough problems to tackle. Divide we are not a force, see what happened after Jarkhand is formed, highly infested for Naxalism. Our fore fathers have divided the states on language basis, will these so called supporters guarantee that Telengana wont get divided into North, South, West or East on some pretext in future, what does that boil to...it's going to take us to 2000 years back, who are the loosers, the common man who cant blog on internet. When you are trying to divide think of the greater implications, is hyderbad not part of Telengana, people Uttar Kannada in Karnataka speak Konkanese and they should have a seperate state..why are they not asking..isn't there disparties in all states not just Andhra?.
What happens when the state is formed when it has 14 or 15 MP's, 5 * 3 for each party(definitely they are going to be minimum 5 parties), can you speak anything in the house? so whom are you guys cheating its not you or your family..it
Re: Divide like sub-continent in the name of self-determination,
by Ram Online on May 15, 2009 12:43 AM
FYI, 17 states are smaller than Telangana(both in area and size). Telangana is about the size of Kerala in population, and is bigger than Bihar in area. Telangana have resources to sustain as state unlike many of the North estern states and JK. First States reorganization report recommneded to keep Telangana as seperate state.
Re: Re: Divide like sub-continent in the name of self-determinati
by simhasamara on May 15, 2009 12:47 AM
pls. pls. don't compare tel. with Kerala. There people don't hate people of other regions as settles, etc.
Re: Re: Divide like sub-continent in the name of self-determinati
by subrahmanyam jamisetty on May 15, 2009 01:08 AM
do you guarantee that telengana wont get divided in the future?
do you guarantee a single party wins and becomes a force that it will develop the state?
boss it was 50 years back, things are changing even for a year,
what will happen for a country with so much complexity if another 15 states want to divide its states in future. you know where are we going 1000 princely states, who is going to take over.....Naxalism, climate change, disease, water shortage, basic hygene.
i'am not in favour of Andhra or Telengana...i want to live my life spreading awareness on Greening, Lake development, Strong Military, and an efficient Internal Security system rather than, why you need to stay as one state.
when you are sending 42 MP's means you are a force and you getting due share in policy formulations. Send efficient MP's from your region and develop the region, dont dent the Union, it is going to create spiraling effect,
A Great king abandoned military, which lead us to downfall, forming 10000 countries,
Some Opportunists Instigated religion, we payed the price,
It is a blessing to have diversity, and it is lucky to be born in a democratic counrty which has this richness
spend you ink on matters very urgent to your family, village, city, Country and the world.
Our generation has so much work to do, we have cleanup the planet, plan for our water and food shortages.
Re: Re: Divide like sub-continent in the name of self-determinati
by Sharath on May 15, 2009 02:12 AM
How about being a country like we have in Europe and Gulf regions.
Think like a Indian before you start talking about your state.
Once Telangana is created, you will see more crime and relirion based politics. By the time you try to come out of it, the global warming is already done and the natural resources you are talking about will be lost for sure.
Re: Divide like sub-continent in the name of self-determination,
by simhasamara on May 15, 2009 12:33 AM
Thank you SJ ji. Good message. Here we find educated people who spew venom on other region people. Remem. EDUCATED WHO STAY IN USA ALSO.
Re: Divide like sub-continent in the name of self-determination,
by subrahmanyam jamisetty on May 15, 2009 12:29 AM
For India's sake please do not instigate these articles, look at any country around us, only micery is remaining for them. if you get divided you will create a harm you cannnot reverse it. When we are asking seperate country from Britishers it made sense, but being in one country and enjoying all its fruits and freedom, why are you doing this.
Re: Divide like sub-continent in the name of self-determination,
by subrahmanyam jamisetty on May 15, 2009 12:41 AM
BJP's divided some of Union Bihar, UP, and also on the basis of religion
VP Singh and Arjun Singh divided based on caste.
WHO are these people?, did they wonder how difficult to form a country with some much diversity.
Even after 60 years still these forces are the most powerful.
What are we doing guys, do we want these guys to take us back to 1 A.D. ?
Do these guys have any clue how a common man is taking the devil heat, please please understand and work on greening India, bringing solar revoultion, creating a million lakes...focus on that
Re: Divide like sub-continent in the name of self-determination,
by Indian on May 15, 2009 01:24 AM
split!! split!! split!!! that should be the mantra...these ppl should split everything..starting from their own families. they should split their parents among siblings, they should get split by their offsprings and so forth!!!
Lets split India to atoms or molecules. who cares, if it is going to create overhead and we cannot afford it or if does not make sense... its all "chalta hai"....
Re: Jai Telangana!!!!!!!!
by simhasamara on May 15, 2009 12:18 AM
you guyz are no better than jinnahs. Don't spew venom on other region people. U will get your kingdom.
Re: Re: Jai Telangana!!!!!!!!
by ravula reddy on May 15, 2009 12:22 AM
He is just giving facts. There is nothing wrongly said about other region. Why are you jealous..
I don't know where you come from. We come from Telangana region and we know the problems or this region.
Re: Re: Re: Jai Telangana!!!!!!!!
by Subrahmanyam N on May 15, 2009 01:36 AM
Mr Ravula, Calling people from Andhra "Parasites" is WRONG it is plain rubbish. India is a Democracy and all people have equal rights. This gives no authority to anyone to falsely accuse people from other areas. I don't care about what happens in Telangana but calling people from other areas names makes people from Telangana no different from Mr Thackarey Junior and his goons in Mumbai. If you have grudge against few people that is fine but calling people of the whole region parasites is "unacceptable". Let me ask you one question Where did all the money to develop Hyderabad come from? I don't expect an answer from you or the looser who posted before you and I don't care if Hyderabad goes to Telangana. It will not be the end of the world. There are thousand other counter accusations that you and I can make but what is the purpose? The people are and will suffer, not political parties who do anything to get power. God help my people and my Country. Jai Hind
It is very difficult to make predictions as regard voters in India. Their perpective is not the same which used to be there a decade ago. Definitely today's voter is more mature. He can see the reality associated with different parties and leaders. Exit pole surveys often are not conducted properly with lower strata of the society. It is this lower strata that plays a significant role. In urban areas Congress may fare well. In rural areas BJP will dominate.
Re: Need I say more about KCR !!! Long Live KCR!!! Jai Telangan
by simhasamara on May 15, 2009 12:20 AM
seen many posts by telan. people. they hate others. inf. complex.?
Re: Need I say more about KCR !!! Long Live KCR!!! Jai Telangan
by deimos Jr on May 14, 2009 11:18 PM
Take your telangana dude. Leave my Hyderabad as a Union Territory.
We dont want to be a part of Bu** Sh** Telangana.
See what happens in Hyderabad if we are made part of your f'ed up state.
Re: Re: Need I say more about KCR !!! Long Live KCR!!! Jai Tela
by Prashanth Kumar on May 14, 2009 11:32 PM
Did you ever head mumbaikars demanding to make it a union territory!!!
If you take Mumbai, there are more settlers than the local marathis. Still they never demanded to make it a union territory. Same way your demand for making Hyderabad a UT is a foolish.
Hyderabad is an integral part of Telangana & will remain forever. It(Telangana) was known as Hyderabad State when ruled by Nizam.
You guyzz know only to use filthy language..You have it in your genes. Can’t help it.
Telangana state has to be formed as early as possible else YSR & Naidu will sell/occupy all the govt lands in & around Hyderabad.
Jai Telangana!!! Jai Telangana!!! Jai Telangana!!!
Re: Re: Need I say more about KCR !!! Long Live KCR!!! Jai Tela
by Ram Online on May 14, 2009 11:26 PM
When When Bomby state split into Gujarat and Maharastra; id did bombay becoame Union territory? When Andhra state seperated from Madras state, did Madra became union territory? Hyderabad was part of Telangana before it was merged with Andhra state in 1956 to create Andhra pradesh state. Don't be unreasonable fellow. Telangana state does not mean All non Telanganites will have to leave Telangana or Hyderabad. It just means Telanganites will have self rule. This is the same thing when Andhrites wanted when they wanted to seperate from Madras state(for which Potti sriramulu gave his life). BTW, Potti Sriramulu's struggle is nothing to do with Telangana.
Re: Re: Re: Need I say more about KCR !!! Long Live KCR!!! Jai
by Patriotic indian on May 14, 2009 11:51 PM
Always telangana supporters will brings this argument without knowing the history, .when maharastra was formed gujarat govt did not invest anything in mumabai, similarly when AP was formed andhra govt did not invest in madras....now in hyd AP govt invested EVERYTHNG...So there is no question of leaving hyd to the so called T state.....ANYWAY T state is a dream state in some fools paradise...no need to discuss these things also....have fun buddies
Re: Re: Re: Re: Need I say more about KCR !!! Long Live KCR!!!
by Ram Online on May 15, 2009 12:34 AM
Beofore Bombay state was split into 2 states, Bombay city was deveoped by british using the taxes from everybody including Gujarathis. where as Hyderabad was 5th largest city by the time Talangana (and Hyderabad) was merged with Andhra state(Telugu speaking areas of Madras state). Telangana has more right on Hyderabad compared to Maharastra on Bombay. Nobody ever dare to ask to make bombay as union territory. I guess Telanganites are mellow and taking all this crap from Adnhrites. This kind unreasonable things will create bad feelings between telanganites and andhrites.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Need I say more about KCR !!! Long Live KCR!!!
by ravula reddy on May 15, 2009 12:05 AM
It's funny that you are talking as you know history. Hyderabad was in 5th largest city in India (in area, development, facilities) in 1947 or even before Telangana was merged into AP. Before Telangana was merged in AP Hyderabad had biggest university, Under ground drainage facility, Hospitals, Libraries, Assembly, Lakes and water facilities you keep on listing you found everthing in HYD. Under AP rule now Hyderabad is not even 6th largest city in India in development. There are developments in HYD afterwards but they are part of our daily life lie building mall's and shops are this is not called development. IT firms are developed by giving Telangana lands not ANdhra's. Telangana region was first in India with government land and this land came to AP from Nizams lands. Now you hardly find any land for gov in Telangana region. If you want to talk about development then look at cities like Vizag, Vijayawada which were not even treated as town before freedom now they are compared with HYD. That is called as development. Under AP rule all andhra region was developed and neglected Telangana region. First make Vizag, Vijayawada as Union territories then come to us.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Need I say more about KCR !!! Long Live KCR!
by Patriotic indian on May 15, 2009 12:16 AM
Even small city AGra also had university ...drainage systems, roads building before independece....thast not called as development,after AP formation, hyd got, DRDO,central univ....BHEL, JNTU, industrial centers,IT parks, BIO tec parks, cinema industry...international recognition....this is called developemnt buddy...this is the efforts of all telugu people of entire state....now tell me who has the logic!ha!
Re: Re: Re: Need I say more about KCR !!! Long Live KCR!!! Jai
by Sireesh Pusapati on May 14, 2009 11:47 PM
Whoever demanded separate state will have to lose the capital. Andhra demanded separation from Madras state and has to lose Madras. Gujaratis got separate state and had to lose Bombay. Telangana demanding a separate state should lose Hyderabad. It is not andhrites that are asking for a separate state. Hyderabad was built will all the income and resources from AndhraPradesh and not income generated in Telangana alone.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Need I say more about KCR !!! Long Live KCR!!!
by ravula reddy on May 15, 2009 12:10 AM
ha ha ha ha ha... What a joke. Look at the facts. States that you are referring Capitals was in the sate where it now belongs to. It was not like Mumbai was in Gujarat state but formed as capital of Maharastra. Same as with other states.
If you go around from HYD you will not enter into ANdhra region not less than 250km. How can imagine in your wild dreams of HYD. The bus which is displayed in Vijayawad busstand it was bus that was run by Nizam gov. before freedom HYD was well developed under our (Telangana) rule. Don't tell that under AP rule HYD was developed.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Need I say more about KCR !!! Long Live KCR!!!
by Prashanth Kumar on May 14, 2009 11:56 PM
Hyderabad was already built well before Telangana state is merged with Andhra state in 1956.It was Andhra who joined Telangana state to form Andhra Pradesh.Even SRC was not in favor of merging.So that logic doesn’t work here dude.
The States Reorganization Commission (SRC) was not in favor of merging the Telangana region with the then Andhra state. Para 382 of States Reorganization Commission Report (SRC) said "..Opinion in Andhra is overwhelmingly in favor of the larger unit, public opinion in Telangana has still to crystallize itself". See wikipedia for more details on Telangana.
Re: Re: Need I say more about KCR !!! Long Live KCR!!! Jai Tela
by ravula reddy on May 14, 2009 11:35 PM
Who the hell are you make a state. We Telangana people will form our own state. Change your attitude towards Telangana and Telangana people. We are know for freedom strugle. Our ancestors who fought against Nizam rulers to join in India. Hyderabad is having history more thatn 400 years with Telangana. How can you think in your wild dreams of forming Hyderabad as Union Territory.
Re: Re: Re: Need I say more about KCR !!! Long Live KCR!!! Jai
by raj on May 15, 2009 12:30 AM
guyz calm down! I like the healthy debates here...but I can see where this goes with time...soon people start taking sides..the more andhra's say no to telangana, telangana people will start thinking they are being opressed, and feel they have to fight for their freedom...soon emotions will run high, we start abusing each other and eventually hate each other to death....this is not good for us guys...we were just like brothers for the past 60 years, now suddenly our brotherhood starts seeing cracks...dont fall for the political preys..please see through it...certainly KCR is not a mascot of telanganites interests...he is just an opportunistic politician...
OK imagine if you get the seperate state, and KCR becomes your CM, where do you think your state is headed, he will loot all you people...a guy with no vision at all for development..
by the way I'm an andhrite...hope good sense will prevail on all of our telugu speaking population..let us all talk about developing together instead of dividing ourselves...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Need I say more about KCR !!! Long Live KCR!!!
by Prashanth Kumar on May 15, 2009 01:13 AM
Even after separate Telangana state is formed, we can still live together like brothers in Hyderabad.
Also, why are you presuming that development can only happen if leaders from Andhra/Rayalseema rule? This is incorrect.
As Indian Economy is shining, even all third tiers cities are growing. So Telangana will also shine even under the rule of Telanagana leaders(be it KCR or any one)
YSR & Naidu sold all lands of Telangana & diverted water of Telangana. We don’t allow it to happen anymore.
