Re: NDA will win
by Siddhartha Das on May 13, 2009 03:21 PM
Appears that you have excess black money and want to lose it through betting. You are doubtless one of the trader supporters of Jan Sangh (aka BJP)
Re: Re: Re: NDA will win
by neon plus on May 13, 2009 03:30 PM
Secular? Do you feel that Secular parties are there in India. You Blind, silly man open your EYES
Re: Re: Re: NDA will win
by neon plus on May 13, 2009 03:33 PM
my number is 98982 72424. You caontact me immediately. Further make ready the betting money which you are going loose you buddhus
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: NDA will win
by neon plus on May 13, 2009 03:51 PM
Jai HO BJP. Bad luck to congi. Sorry for your sad feelings. Ican understand your emotion
Re: it
by RG on May 13, 2009 03:45 PM
Congi (Itly) struck at 121.. bikaNDtv with jesu pronoy,bad dua,pagl1 barkha with Ulta Pada Anda looking for space to hide... Ppl who were happy with 1talian @ss now saying dill mange m0re and l00king at the asts of gudia of ameth1 fame for the efforts made..
Congress set to be single largest party. following will be wining seats for cong(I) UP 10, Ap 12, MP 6, Rajastan 13, Maharashtra 13 Kerala 10, Punjab 8, Delhi 5, WB 7, Guj 08,Jharkhand 05, TN 7 Karanataka 9 orrisa 9 Chattis 4 Harayana 06, UTK 03 Himachal 02 Other small states 10 .Manmohan will not be the PM as congress will need support of LEFT. Rahul Gandhi has the chance. UPA will make to 281 including Left.
Re: Congress to get following seats...................
by uday kshirsagar on May 13, 2009 03:24 PM
ntq, you have calculated 141 for congress but how congress manage another 140? please analyse.
Re: Re: Congress to get following seats...................
by nt g on May 13, 2009 03:33 PM
My calculation is correct... 140 will come from- left 35, NCP 13, Lalu Paswan (Mulayam Excluded) 10 - , DMK and Tamil Group 16, Mayawati 30, JMM 05, JD( S) 04 Small Paries -21, Independants 07.
Re: Congress to get following seats...................
by paddy a on May 13, 2009 03:23 PM
i just chatted with a UP wala on net and he told me BJP ids going to do far far better in UP then 2004 most of the Up bhrahmins are voting for BJP RALOD this time comibened might get morethen 30 he says, wait and see. and 145 seats for congress will not make it the single largest party dear
Re: Re: Congress to get following seats...................
by antony on May 13, 2009 03:17 PM
ur showing less than 145, u mean to say they r loosing as they have not even retained wht ever they got last time
Re: Congress to get following seats...................
by paddy a on May 13, 2009 03:23 PM
i just chatted with a UP wala on net and he told me BJP ids going to do far far better in UP then 2004 most of the Up bhrahmins are voting for BJP RALOD this time comibened might get morethen 30 he says, wait and see. and 145 seats for congress will not make it the single largest party dear
have become kids channel of late? All their anchors are behaving as kids....funniest moment was when a CNN IBN anchor just asked Karat whether he will be supporting Cong and he replied we will see after 16th...this became headline in news channel as Left Supporting Congress...lol....nowadays watching these channels is like watching kid shows...same old tired faces of spokespersons and same old questions of anchors which party they are seeking support from next...and so on....pathetic.
Re: dhanda starts...
by Maihoon Don on May 13, 2009 03:04 PM
hahaha well said....their surveys would have already started...media is as bad as the politicians themselves...fooling people all the time.
Re: Re: dhanda starts...
by deepti de on May 13, 2009 03:06 PM
WAIT FOR ANOTHER 72 HOURS AND U WILL HAVE THE EXACT NOS - WHY DEPEND UPON POLITICAL JYOTISHIS
Re: Re: dhanda starts...
by Siddhartha Das on May 13, 2009 03:22 PM
Well said NT. You are one of the few pragmatic, mature and intelligent people on this forum today.
Re: Re: dhanda starts...
by Astro San on May 13, 2009 03:21 PM
UPA will win 400 seats and NDA will be holding less than 50 seats based on exit poll conducted by NDTV
Re: sin is
by Teesmar Singh on May 13, 2009 03:17 PM
People of India are damm phools. They are not interested in development. They want dearness, terrorism, castism etc etc. So they vote to congress, BSP, SP etc.
Re: sin is
by Siddhartha Das on May 13, 2009 02:57 PM
The choice for the Indian working class in clear: vote congress and Palainappan will help you live. Vote BJP and Yashwant Sinha will murder you with Income Tax to help his trader friends.
Re: Re: sin is
by Hum Hindustani on May 13, 2009 03:03 PM
Vote for Congress and Chidambaram will have nightmares and think of all kinds of way to increase taxes.
Congress is meant for cheats.
BTW, why are we figthing now, since morning all went and cast their votes for the BJP and like minded parties.
Re: Re: Re: sin is
by kalpesh shah on May 13, 2009 03:07 PM
but where is development,we are only talking about tax,where is price hike issue, where is pranabs statement where he requested industrialist cut down salary wages,what about crude oil rate????
Re: Re: Re: Re: sin is
by uday kshirsagar on May 13, 2009 03:29 PM
murli deora takes month to reduce petrol and disel prices after crude oil tumbles all time low only to loot people.
Who is adi shankara and wht is his qualifications ? Can the son of a brahmin can be a dalit at social level? Or can the son of dalit be a brahmin in society as we peceive today ? Can you tell me what is that truth you are referring to ? To me, a religion or system must address the core issues like pain and sufferings living beings and also it must teach us how to accept pain and move a head with more strength and dedication. I didnt had any exposure to such concepts when I was a dalit, but after knowing Christianity, I feel I have done a good hing in my life. Now I am confident and can talk to anyone. I believe in values and virtues preached in bible. Things are not the same for me as compared to my past. I knw the difference now.
Re: @Musician
by Mike on May 13, 2009 03:07 PM
Musician, You didnt answer my Question. Wht is truth ? Is it living like dalit is truth? Is abandoning suffering people is truth ? Is untouchability is truth ? Where is your krishna or Rama when people are branded as untouchables ? How does your adi saknara addresses the core issue of pain and suffering ? Does he has any knowledge about the real issues of practical living ? To tell you solemnly, I am using my life as a message to dalits to know the truth of their miserable life and come out of the shackles and unjust restrictions imposed on them. They must be liberated in every way, especially the social taboo. They must realize their condition sooner and also must knw that they are fooled for centuries in the name of some strange philosophies and way of lives. They may not see the real difficulties but time will come when they will see what is really happening with them. They come come out of the system to see the real problem. I humbly say that Christianity has given me strength to work for dalits.
Re: @Musician
by Indian Citizen on May 13, 2009 03:39 PM
Mike, Your question could be answered in a simple way. Caste system was for the distribution of labour but only not a tag by birth. There are several kings who were born Kshatriyas but by KARMA they became Brahamins. Budha, Mahaveer were Kshatriyas by birth. Guru Drona was Brahamin but by Karma he became Kshatriya. At some stage of time, the concept of Karma vanished and it took the place of by Birth. Now a Brahamin by birth may be doing all karma of Shudra still called Brahmin. Some Manu or manulike persons propogated the idea by birth as it did not require any qualification to be Brahamin. To be brahamin by Karma needed lot of Tap or devotion to studies. Hindu religion is one of the greatest but in ZIP file and burried in the books which requires a selfless religious man to unfold it.
Re: @Musician
by Mike on May 13, 2009 03:07 PM
Musician, You didnt answer my Question. Wht is truth ? Is it living like dalit is truth? Is abandoning suffering people is truth ? Is untouchability is truth ? Where is your krishna or Rama when people are branded as untouchables ? How does your adi saknara addresses the core issue of pain and suffering ? Does he has any knowledge about the real issues of practical living ? To tell you solemnly, I am using my life as a message to dalits to know the truth of their miserable life and come out of the shackles and unjust restrictions imposed on them. They must be liberated in every way, especially the social taboo. They must realize their condition sooner and also must knw that they are fooled for centuries in the name of some strange philosophies and way of lives. They may not see the real difficulties but time will come when they will see what is really happening with them. They come come out of the system to see the real problem. I humbly say that Christianity has given me strength to work for dalits.
Re: Re: @Musician
by mudamosi on May 13, 2009 03:25 PM
What caste do u think Valmiki, Vyasa were born in to? Even your pet grouse Adi Shankara wrote a song in which he emphasises equality of humans Lastly, can you explain the concept of separate cemeteries in Tamil Nadu for Dalits and Caste Hindus?
Re: @Musician
by Prashant Mardolkar on May 13, 2009 02:59 PM
Who is christ and wht are his qualifications? Hinduism or lets say A Hindu way of life is the originator of all the religions be it BUDDHISM, ISLAM, CHRISTIANITY. Amen or Amin is the corrupted pronounciation of OM.
Re: Re: @Musician
by Mike on May 13, 2009 03:09 PM
Prasant, You are missing my point. Plz address the issue of pain and suffering. MEthods are not very important but actions are.
Re: Re: Re: Re: @Musician
by Mike on May 13, 2009 03:25 PM
He had his reasons. He was very much willing to follow Christ but he felt the faith has not originated in Inda. Thats the only reason he went for Buddhism. BUt I have my own views. I think wht Ambedkar did is wrong as Buddhism is a kind of atheism.
Re: Re: @Musician
by musician on May 13, 2009 03:13 PM
Bhakta tukaram, the great saint of maharashtra was born as dalit but had the darshan of lord krishna - he was granted salvation bodily - see encyclopaedia - this may seem unbelievable but truth stands. Who are you to ask about great incarnations and messengers - what are your qualifications. How can you say hinduism preaches inequality - see the bhakti yoga in geeta - what a human being should do is clearly mentioned - it says human being can become god by inculcating godly qualities - is this not the highest virtue preached by hinduism. I can quote scores of examples like this. Try to know the truth my dear brother.
Re: Re: Re: @Musician
by Mike on May 13, 2009 03:20 PM
I pitty on you. Rather than giving a convincing answer to my questions on pain and suffering, you are trying to defend your unjust beliefs thru the quotes of geetha, encyclopaedia, tukarama blah blah blah. I wud say you just shut your mouth and do your work. You are unfit for educating others about your own parent faith. You speak vague and blurred language which makes me feel laugh at your own knowledge hindu philosophy. You are not able to know the meaning of inequality. I dont want to talk to illiterates like you. Atleast you see a dalit like me. I can talk authoritatively on my past life and Christianity.
Re: Re: Re: Re: @Musician
by mudamosi on May 13, 2009 03:36 PM
" you are trying to defend your unjust beliefs" So you are biased. You will not see other views than your own. First of all what makes you feel your belief is justified? Like any other religion christianity too can be questioned. No where have you said, how it provided philosophies which alleviated your pain and sufferings, or holds the answer to that
Re: Re: Re: @Musician
by Mike on May 13, 2009 03:21 PM
I pitty on you. Rather than giving a convincing answer to my questions on pain and suffering, you are trying to defend your unjust beliefs thru the quotes of geetha, encyclopaedia, tukarama blah blah blah. I wud say you just shut your mouth and do your work. You are unfit for educating others about your own parent faith. You speak vague and blurred language which makes me feel laugh at your own knowledge hindu philosophy. You are not able to know the meaning of inequality. I dont want to talk to illiterates like you. Atleast you see a dalit like me. I can talk authoritatively on my past life and Christianity.
Re: Re: Re: Re: @Musician
by musician on May 13, 2009 03:40 PM
You are revealing your ignorant nature completely. It is known from your messages. You have not understood my message in any way. I was trying (only trying) to convince you that all human beings are equal before god (everybody can become god by inculcating divine qualities - every human being has a right to it)and which message is preached by all religions and I quoted example of so called people born as dalit (word according to you) but have become equal to god. Hope you at least understand what I wanted to convey. Without darkness, you cannot see light. Without pain and suffering, one cannot know happiness. Without rich, poor word has no meaning. Nature's laws are like that. Pain and suffering are a part of life, though few lucky ones have lesser pain and suffering and more happiness and vice versa. By the way what inequality you are talking about. Dalits have occupied higher positions in today's society, What do you say about that - is it inequality. Had it been there, would that have been possible.
