As long as the mosalman population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness: United States — mosalman 1.0% Australia — mosalman 1.5% Canada — mosalman 1.9% China — mosalman 1%-2% Italy — mosalman 1.5% Norway — mosalman 1.8% At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs: Denmark — mosalman 2% Germany — mosalman 3.7% United Kingdom — mosalman 2.7% Spain — mosalman 4% Thailand — mosalman 4.6% From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for mosalmans. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. France — mosalman 8% Philippines — mosalman 5% Sweden — mosalman 5% Switzerland — mosalman 4.3% The Netherlands — mosalman 5.5% Trinidad & Tobago — mosalman 5.8% At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
Re: I did not write his.But very interesting.
by Rajivan Menon on May 14, 2009 08:02 AM
When mosalmans reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris — car burnings, etc.). Any non-mosalman action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam — Mohammed cartoons). Guyana — mosalman 10% India — mosalman 13.4% Israel — mosalman 16% Kenya — mosalman 10% Russia — mosalman 10-15% After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning: Ethiopia — mosalman 32.8% At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare: Bosnia — mosalman 40% Chad — mosalman 53.1% Lebanon — mosalman 59.7% From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels: Albania — mosalman 70% Malaysia — mosalman 60.4% Qatar — mosalman 77.5% Sudan — mosalman 70% After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide: Bangladesh — mosalman 83% Egypt — mosalman 90% Gaza — mosalman 98.7% Indonesia — mosalman 86.1% Iran — mosalman 98% Iraq — mosalman 97% Jordan — mosalman 92% Morocco — mosalman 98.7% Pakistan — mosalman 97% Palestine — mosalman 99% Syria — mosalman 90% Tajikistan — mosalman 90% Turkey — mosalman 99.8% United Arab Emirates — mosalman 96%
Re: Re: I did not write his.But very interesting.
by Rajivan Menon on May 14, 2009 08:03 AM
100% will usher in the peace of "Dar-es-Salaam" — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a mosalman: Afghanistan — mosalman 100% Saudi Arabia — mosalman 100% Somalia — mosalman 100% Yemen — mosalman 99.9% Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, mosalmans then start killing each other for a variety of reasons. "Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel".— Leon Uris, "The Haj" It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the mosalman populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. mosalmans do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.
Re: Re: Re: I did not write his.But very interesting.
by Nandakumar rajagopal on May 14, 2009 12:23 PM
waw! wonderful statistics. I was hitherto under the impression that only Kashmir where they are a majority they were unruly. Russia and China are really worried as so far they are in minority. It is one community which has been mislead by their mullahs who intrepret Kuran in their own whimsical ways.
The congress bastion is full of cowards who do not have the courage to deal with terrorism. Except for India Gandhi who went after terrorism with an Iron hand ( The Indian security and intelligence failed to protect her) no other congress leader has shownthe courage. The pakistani government which is a couple of months old has the guts to pound the extremist strongholds but the indian governmennt still does not have either the courage or political will to deal firmly with the issue of islamic terrorism
Re: It takes guts!!
by Jugnoo on May 14, 2009 06:56 AM
BJP people are hand in gloves with terrorists. it is proved as they left masood azhar in kandahar as well as their involvement in last year's Malegaon blasts. BJP- Bharat Jalao Party BJP bhagao, desh bachao Jai Hind
Re: It takes guts!!
by harry na on May 14, 2009 07:12 AM
and what has BJP done?? except for doing nothing for Akshardham, parliament attack, gujrat riots, delhi bomb blasts??? BJP only conducted the nuclear tests which were also planned by PVN Rao.. the Kargil operations were not pro activity --it was retaliation.. no big deal...
Re: Re: It takes guts!!
by Atul Sinha on May 14, 2009 08:07 AM
YOU TELL ME WHAT CONGRESS HAS GIVEN TO INDIA IN THEIR 50 YEARS RULE. AT LEAST BJP HAS GIVEN US GOLDEN QUADRILATERAL HIGHWAY SYSTEM ON WHICH OUR ECONOMY DEPENDS NOW. WHAT THERE NOW ROITS,NOW PAKISTANI ATTACKS DURIN 50 YEARS OF CONGRESS RULE? SO KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT AS SLOWLY-SLOWLY BUT BJP IS MAKING ROADS DEEP IN THE HEART OF PEOPLE. TIME WIL COME WHEN(MAY BE IN NEXT 15-20 YEARS) WHEN BJP WILL MAKE A FULL BJP GOVERMENT AT NEW DELHI. YOU WILL NOT FIND CONGRESS AND ANY THIRD FRONT THEN. THEY ARE ALL CORRUPT PEOPLE.
Re: Re: It takes guts!!
by OracleAtDelphi on May 14, 2009 07:26 AM
Actually there is no point in explaining to people who refuse to listen. You and Jugnoo are free to vote for whoever you want.
And why was your honourable PVN Rao shunned by congress?
Re: Re: Re: It takes guts!!
by harry na on May 14, 2009 07:33 AM
just for the same reason why your honorable ABV was shunned by BJP.. dont get into debates if you cant debate..
Re: Re: Re: Re: It takes guts!!
by ad na on May 14, 2009 07:54 AM
Hey Mr. Harry read your message below about how miserable our lives in India are. I wonder why a happy aussie like you is on this forum. Leave us alone to live our miserable lives dont need your advice or debate with you. Buzz off.
Re: Re: Re: Re: It takes guts!!
by OracleAtDelphi on May 14, 2009 08:17 AM
Like I guessed, harry is a na na in the field of arguing. Cant answer one question without concocting one in response!
Re: Re: Re: Re: It takes guts!!
by Mahavir on May 14, 2009 08:00 AM
harry na I liked your reply. Answer question with a question and defend Cangress - minority apeassing party
Re: Re: Re: Re: It takes guts!!
by ad na on May 14, 2009 07:51 AM
ABV shunned he retired there is a huge difference. I hope there is retirement in your beloved Australia.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: It takes guts!!
by harry na on May 14, 2009 07:56 AM
you read my comment but you did not understand it.. no problamo.. i dont blame you.. there are lot more of you ...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: It takes guts!!
by ad na on May 14, 2009 08:02 AM
I understood your comment just fine and yes there a lot more like me and there also a million like you who go abroad and then turn back call India names. I have zero respect for people like you. Please dont worry about India. Leaves us alone. You are not missed.
Re: Re: It takes guts!!
by ad na on May 14, 2009 07:49 AM
BJP bought in POTA but what happened Congress repealed it because of thier policy of minority appeasement. So much for secularism
All foreigners are very happy with the Gandhi trio - Sonia, Rahul and the honourable Madam Priyanka who keeps using the Gandhi surname ala the real Gandhi ishtyle of manipulating surnames. Just the thought of a white/halfwhite person ruling India makes them feel so good. Same goes with some females who will support Sonia Gandhi just because they think it is broadmindedness to accept a female as the PM. Come one people, in this country where we already had Indira Gandhi and Pratibha Patil, is there any reason why we should act like beggars? Equality of men and women doesnt begin only with putting a women on a high position. We will only require the best be it Congress or BJP. But this leaning toward Rahul and Sonia Gandhi by the white media, is purely a bias. They love visualising a cosmopolitan image of India. Now this might not be bad that we are getting broadminded day after day, but ruling a country like India is not a matter of joke, and we shouldnt resign to petty sentiments.
Re: Just a thought.
by harry na on May 14, 2009 07:16 AM
oracle - how can you forget varun and Menaka Gandhi?? they dont have any profile.. that idiot Varun is in prison for preaching caste system... its not about women or gandhi's coming to power.. its about right person leading the party...at the time when Sonia stepped to take the position... try to recall.. there was no leader in teh congress.. do u even remember the name of president during that interim period??
Re: Re: Just a thought.
by OracleAtDelphi on May 14, 2009 07:31 AM
Maneka has been in politics for years and currently only an MP of the opposition. If you are aspiring to see her as the PM, I will be glad to answer your question. Your slow mind failed to pick up that Maneka is an Indian, not a Greek or Italian or Hungarian. Try to undertstand a post first.
Who is Varun Gandhi? A novice. So why are you hanging on to him? I didnt even mention him once.
I already said its about the right party so not sure what you mean by mentioning this again. When Sonia stepped in, the crippled congress saw it as an opportunity to ask for votes in the name of Gandhi again. Thats what happened. Clearly you are so blindfolded you cant listen to a harmless truth. You have to bring 10 other people in the scene to defend yourself.
Re: Re: Re: Just a thought.
by harry na on May 14, 2009 07:38 AM
id like to debate but not get personal.. so ill ignore your comments about me...
what you should do is first get the constitution of India amended..so that it does not allow foreigners to get citizenship.. this women left her country and everythin she had for Rajiv gandhi.. for what?? for that he gets murdered... and still she didnt leave the country but she stepped up to lead his party .. yes she bears the Gandhi name.. but why shouldnt she?? acknowledge what she has done.. she understood the feeling sof foold like you who questioned he foreign origin and stepped down form the post of PM even though majority of the country had supported her... when you are in minority ..dont forget what majority feels
Re: Re: Re: Re: Just a thought.
by OracleAtDelphi on May 14, 2009 08:24 AM
Harry na, where does the question of a debate come from? Sonia took citizenship. When? Answer that first. Whoever was murdered was because of their own political decisions. Taking up a position is tougher than pulling the reins from backstage.
And you are right, you would like to debate. For no good reasons. First it was Varun and Maneka and now it is Sonia mataji's sacrifice.
If you have any issues with the truth you should just pretend it doesnt exist. Instead of countering with non-relevant matters which will automatically give rise to a lot more.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Just a thought.
by Mahavir on May 14, 2009 08:07 AM
harry na - Agree 110% with you. This women (Sonia Maino) left everything she had in Italy to live with poor Rajiv Gandhi. She even accepted Indian citizenship just after 14 years of stay in poverty with Rajiv Gandhi. She stayed back in poor, dirty 3rd world country India full of dark skinned people even after her husband was murdered. She should be decalred 'Saint' by Vatican. What a scrifice by a white lady!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Just a thought.
by Atul Sinha on May 14, 2009 08:18 AM
SONIA GANDHI DIDN'T LEAVE HER COUNTRY BECAUSE SHE IS HAVING ANY LOVE FOR INDIA. SHE WAS FROM A MIDDLE CALSS FAMILY OF ITALY. WILL SHE BE ABLE TO GET SO MUCH OF RECOGNIZATION AND FAME AND MONEY IN ITALY? FOR MORE THEN 30 YEARS SHE DISN'T LEARN HINDI OR ANY INDIAN LANGUAGE. YOU ANSWER ME WHY? ALL OF A SUDDEN SO MUCH OF LOVE FOR INDIA AND INDIAN PEOPLE? IF I GET THE CHANCE I WILL GET THE CONSTITUTION AMENDED FOR SURE. THERE IS NO NEED OF ANY EUROPIAN IN OUR PARLIAMENT. THEY WILL NEVER LOVE INDIA AS I CAN NEVER LOVE ITALY OR U.K OR FRANCE. PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO ARE PROBABLY FROM RICH CLASS AND HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH PROBLEMS WHICH INDIAN PUBLIC IS FACING BECAUSE OF GANDHI FAMILY POLICIES, ONLY SPEAK LIKE THIS. FIRST GET IN TO THE SHOES OF AN INDIAN POOR MAN WHO STILL HAS’T GOT THE BASICS LIKE WATER, ELECTRICITY AND SHELTER IN THE CONGRESS RULE OF 50 YEARS.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Just a thought.
by Tulika Chatterjee on May 14, 2009 08:59 AM
How conveniently you call others fools ;) while claiming not to get personal. :) And dont give the pure nonsense majority minority talk. Living abroad doesnt you are more intelligent when your posts prove otherwise.
Difficult for any Govt to a ttend these four. These need lot of expereince nd pas performance to deal these topics. 3rd and 4th front, so awaited, cannot even dream to come to power. BJP, the second choice, who have n expereince at all. They still maintain Hindustva, Ram temple, RSS etce etc which r not going to attend these 4 emergencies listed. Onoy best alternate is to brign COngres to power. With FULL support from all corners in the interest of secular state. There should be COMMON interest in running this secular country...Not even to dream to plough back the money invested in the elections....Politics has become a business now. no idea where this would end....wiat and see.
Re: 4 emergencies...
by p on May 14, 2009 06:33 AM
YOur comment is biased. BJP was in power. It was probably the best government in terms of performance.They tried to win on India shining mantra. Obviously it doesn't work. People obviously vote for every thing other than development or the self respect for indian history and culture. they vote for pseudosecularism, caste etc etc.
Re: Re: 4 emergencies...
by harry na on May 14, 2009 07:05 AM
you comments are contradicting... BJP was never the most successful govt...if we see mumbai attacks now then the akshardham massacre was in 2002 under ABV and also the gujrat riots.. BJP is the one fighting for religion.. Babri Masjid demolished in that reign.. how can you call congress living on caste, religion, etc votes??...
Re: Re: Re: 4 emergencies...
by Mahavir on May 14, 2009 08:13 AM
harry na - You forgoet to mention that Cangress too is fighting for a relegion - to get minority votes. It was Cangress who introduced reservation based on relegion. Its Cangress who started giving free trip for minority to a foreign country (S. Arabia) for performing Haj. True how can you call cangress living on caste, relegion etc. for votes?? :-)
Re: Re: Re: 4 emergencies...
by OracleAtDelphi on May 14, 2009 07:07 AM
Babri was demolished during congress reign. And that too a place where no one prayed. You need to stay in India and not P@kistan to know about India's history.
Re: Re: Re: Re: 4 emergencies...
by harry na on May 14, 2009 07:26 AM
yo.. you are right.. but who demolished it?? and indian history is loud and clear.. full of crap.. and you have to really be outside india to see it... living in india you will never even realise it... what s h i t life people live there!!! i dont know abt Pakistan but Aus is lot better to live than the slums..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 4 emergencies...
by ad na on May 14, 2009 07:45 AM
well then leave us alone in the slums let us choose we dont need expert advice from Australia. Let me guess dont feel completely Australian do you? is it becuase of your skin color?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 4 emergencies...
by OracleAtDelphi on May 14, 2009 08:26 AM
Harry na, dont contradict yourself. You said that Babri was demolished in BJP's reign. Now that you realise thats not true, you start with other crap. Hahhahahaha...think and then write.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 4 emergencies...
by OracleAtDelphi on May 14, 2009 08:29 AM
And you brainless dumbo, dont bring Australia to defend your poor logic.
Re: Re: Re: 4 emergencies...
by Krishna S Santosh on May 14, 2009 07:58 AM
Look at the Bias - Harry you prove to be an Anti-Indian.. Could be a cheap convert...
"Mumbai Attacks" and "Akshardam Massacre" ??? See dont blabber if you cannot substantiate.. Congress govt. is responsible for the loss of Hindu lives in these terror attacks - much lives were lost than in BJP or any other govt... Thanks to their "Minority Appeasement" politics...
Re: Re: Re: Re: 4 emergencies...
by harry na on May 14, 2009 08:01 AM
what do you want me to substantiate with?? go to wikipedia and read...ridiculous... just bcoz you have fed with wrong info doesnt mean the world is wrong?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 4 emergencies...
by Tulika Chatterjee on May 14, 2009 08:39 AM
Its obvious that he is asking you not to quote irrelevant incidents to defend yourself.
1) terrorism - Why has terrorism not been questioned to this extent for the last 60 years? We have seem bomb blasts in Delhi, Akshardham, riots in mumbai, gujrat, J&K and many more places... why has that not been raised at this extent... a misery of the country is becoming a political agenda.. its a shame on media.. just bcoz people have TVs now and can read better doesnt make media God...
2)Recession - perhaps you dont know Mr reporter the extent of the recession injury on the world outside india... Us - 1 in every 4th person is severy affected - UK -is in the worst recession/depression, Japan has been in depression for 3 quarters now, and China is no where good... On the contrary, India is getting jobs from oversees, ANZ has moved 1000 jobs from Australia to India...etc etc etc... imagine what the country would have been if MMS and PV Rao did not implement the open door policy in 1991... you would not have had a laptop to write your article...
3)Naxals - - i cant believe how dumb you can be. why have the naxals been quiet for so long and suddenly during election they decided to blow up things? its motivated and encouraged.. by whom? that your job to find out and report to us
4)general economic issues - the first thing that MMS did when he came to power was to waive-off all the loans that farmers have... atleast somebody has done something...i dont see any other PM/politician doing anything like this before....
so lets let the govt do what they are capable of doing
Re: useless article
by harry na on May 14, 2009 05:33 AM
so lets let the govt do what they are capable of doing best.. if MMS is asking for 100 days.. give him and then question him for what he has done and what he hasnt for his promises... is Advani making any such commitment?? does he have any plan?? what is the work around for recession?? who would be his FM? whats the plan?? more more more???/
Re: Re: useless article
by OracleAtDelphi on May 14, 2009 07:09 AM
MMS is asking for 10 and then 5 years. What will he do in 100 days except attend to his heart?
Re: Muslms & christans are murdrers
by Krishna S Santosh on May 14, 2009 08:00 AM
Please dont comment on Sikhs and Jews - they are our brothers.. The rest MAY be true...
Re: Muslms & christans are murdrers
by abdullah nayazi on May 14, 2009 07:19 AM
what u call as the LTTE , Maoist heheheh are they preachers killing all innocent people
Re: Re: Muslms & christans are murdrers
by vidhu on May 16, 2009 01:47 AM
All christans are murdrers, with double standrds. Christans belive in murdring all non-christans, & forgiving all christans. Christans, muslms, skhs & jws are similr. Ref.: myspace com/vidhu2
Recently an Indian student was hit in melb Aus. The Aussies were shouting " Kiss my foot" Adiga in White Tiger has lied about a North Indian Balram Halwai saying " Kiss my ..... . I wont write the words here. Prof Sanjay Subramanyan of UCLA has written in World review of Bks about White Tiger that there is no lingua like Kiss my...... in North India.
Yes friends, this Adiga chap has picked all this in Australia and introduced in his novel, and made Balram Halwai say the statement. Thus spake the subaltern of Adiga. Hypocrite of the first order. Liar Liar. Just wants to make money.
Re: Kiss my ...... Adiga in White Tiger . The subaktern of Adiga
by Arun N on May 14, 2009 05:08 AM
just adding on to that gajanan, it is interesting to see how the great western culture including the aussies (who have been cut off from the west due to the international date line) passionately preach about equality for all when thier own civilisations are based solely on uprooting the local indigenous ppl when thier countries were found....i find the western culture not only racist but also supremist and hypocritical. India has by far been a much more humane face to civilisation! inspite of having the horrible concept of "untouchable" we did not drive them out if the living land. India is definitely not spotless, i'll agree to that, but in the history of mankind, I have no doubt indians stand tall over the likes of aussies and americans and the brits
Re: Re: Kiss my ...... Adiga in White Tiger . The subaktern of Ad
by Lal Popat on May 14, 2009 06:08 AM
dont mean to disagree but the history of aussies and americans is relatively recent and western civilization tend to write history. The history of India spans back to 5000 years. We dont know what transpired during all those years and most of what we know comes through oral tradition. plus any history can be masked sutitably and the truth gets forgotten over a passage of time.
Re: Kiss my ...... Adiga in White Tiger . The subaktern of Adiga
by goldtiger on May 14, 2009 09:23 AM
"Mere Pair Pad aur mafi maang" - literal translation. Kiss my foot and beg forgiveness is a ver common way servants are treated in UP Bihar.
Above all these 4, top most emergency would be each time alliance party come up with request or has to dance for the tunes of alliance parties. That will be most difficult job than these 4. No National party will get majority.
Re: bias
by Gowda on May 14, 2009 04:08 AM
just coz Advani is BJP,u support him. He is the most crook. Vajpayee is far better. Whats wrong in addressing him as Hindu Nationalist. Is it so negative ? Isnt it true that he started ratha yatra and all bullshit. I am not supporter of MMS as wel. Add are same, they just are there with different party names thats it.
Re: Re: bias
by ad na on May 14, 2009 04:58 AM
Whats wrong with being Hindu nationalist?. Do you want Hinduism to vanish from India? If so we wont have a India. Indian states have remained united inspite of all the differences because of Hinduism, remove that and there is no India.
Re: Re: Re: bias
by p on May 14, 2009 06:46 AM
The unique thing about hinduism is tolerance! tolerance to other cultures which has allowed so many different religions and cultures to flourish in India. Take hinduism out and you will just have on going figths, India will be another Africa! of course that is the goal of western civilization.
Re: Re: bias
by Shobhan Ganji on May 14, 2009 04:18 AM
Is starting Ratha Yatra bad ??. Starting Ratha Yatra is better than allowing Bangladeshi immigrants to expand the minority vote bank by Congress.
Re: bias
by Good Fellas on May 14, 2009 04:26 AM
He is in the west and he has to appease people in the west in conventional way by showing off his pseudo secular broadminded a@s. He is following footsteps of indian journalists who for a mere trip to the west did not hesitate to defame india or hinduism. But little do people like these know that this mode of appeasement does not work anymore.
You are writing as if these issues were never there. Did the existing PM thought about it or did something about it? Why do you think the new PM will think about it. The only agenda for new PM will be to keep his chair as long as possible.
