I will simply place one bit of Statistics before all.
At Aug, 1947: Hindu Population in West Pakistan: 26%. In Karachi City, 51% Today, it is less than 1%
At Aug, 1947: Hindu Population in East Pakistan (B'desh): 38% Today, irt is les than 9%
At Aug 1947: Muslim population in remaining(sic) India: 9.4% Today, it is 18% !. This is according to the Official Govt census, not taking the huge influx of infiltrators (in crores) facilitated by Cong and Commies in Assam, West Bengal and other NE States.
What drove such alarming demographic transformation? What else, but the pseudo secularism pursued by self serving Cong & Commies at the cost of secure future of the Nation. The devastating ill effects of this is left to the readers to contemplate.
Although no body can support Varun's speech, this episode clearly brings out the risk of investing too much power in to this lady with prime ministerial ambitions because she has a tendency to act first and then think & regret later. The country's governance will be any-thing but safe in this lady's hands. India's needs someone who has a mature balanced head on his/her shoulders and not someone with cowboy mentality of blindly shooting from the hip at the slightest provocation.
Varun's hate ('alleged', according to the media now) speech has propelled him into the lime light as he won over many supporters. Rahul's statements to woo Nitish and others just drew some comments. Varun's "alleged" hate speech has sparked off heated debates on religion and all in these message boards but Rahul's "love" speech did not. This shows how we love hate speeches by eminent personalities.
bhimsen hindutva is fascism nothing to do with hinduism which is peaceful worship of god with their traditional social behaviour. hindutva is continous hate preching against all minority &weaker section of society ,based on pure lies. THEN DREAM OF EATABLISHING A RACIALIST STATE BASED ON APARTEISM LIKE HITLER.end will also be same.
I think BJP WILL BE THE WEAK LINK FOR THE OTHER COUNTRIES TO DEAL WITH SINCE MOST OF THEM ARE UNEDUCATED RATHER KNOWS ONLY SPEECHES WRITTEN BY SOMEONE IN HINDI ...ALSO IT WILL FURTHER DECLINE REMEMBER SO AT PRESENT NATURALLY CONGRESS MUST BE THE OPTION FOR ALL OPTIMISTICS
Re: BJP certainly UNFIT AT CENTRE
by modelrator on May 09, 2009 10:49 AM
Mr. Abhilash wat analysis do you do then if you call BJP leaders uneducated. For your kind information BJP leades are all educated you name it and you will find them most competant rather congress have many iliterate leaders like lalu and mny more. What about LKA, Jaitey, Yeshwant Sinha, Ravi Shankar Prasad, Modi, Javdekar, Varun, Menaka, Chuhan, Balbir Punj, Jaswant Singh, Anant Kumar, Sheshadri and many more.
Making a scathing verbal attack on any other person or entity/groups is constitutionally valid. Maya-di is living in a perceived "utopian" world and her style of operation smacks of the inner-mind of a character who would tend to be a dictator. In this digital world, a speech culled and burnt on a CD/DVD is just not enough as prosecution evidence to warrant the attraction of the NSA or of any jail sentence with no bail granted by any of the Courts of our land. When the Courts' themselves are using "un-free" computing infrastructure software in the day-to-day operations where can one think of freedom in realspace, leave alone cyberspace?
Re: READ HISTORY - WHEN DID BJP START HINDUTVA AND RAM TEMPLE AG
by AnUnknownIndian on May 09, 2009 08:58 AM
Rajiv justified killing of 3000 sikhs by saying WHEN A BIG TREE FALLS EARTH SHAKES. But still they are secular.
Shah Bano case was reversed to appease muzzle!ms and to balance the act Babri Masjid / Ram Mandir controversy was created. WHY?
Re: Re: READ HISTORY - WHEN DID BJP START HINDUTVA AND RAM TEMPL
by vinayak purohit on May 09, 2009 09:28 AM
Rajiv justified killing of 3000 sikhs by saying WHEN A BIG TREE FALLS EARTH SHAKES. But still they are secular.
HIND00 FANATICS WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR golden temple attack as they blocked each&every proposal put forward by other parties for peaceful end to the crises. Policy against minorities is teach them lesson rape their woman.
Re: Re: READ HISTORY - WHEN DID BJP START HINDUTVA AND RAM TEMPL
by Kamala Advani on May 09, 2009 09:01 AM
YEA... DO NOT MAKE STUPID STATEMENTS.. YOU WERE A 6 YEAR OLD BACCHA WHEN 1984 HAPPENED... IT HAPPENED RIGHT BEFORE ME... DO NOT TEACH ME HISTORY.. I HAVE SEEN IT...
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I ACCEPT THAT SHAH BANO CASE WAS THE BIGGEST FAILURE OF RAJIV GANDHI... ALL CONGRESSMEN ALIVE NOW WILL ACCEPT IT...
Re: Re: READ HISTORY - WHEN DID BJP START HINDUTVA AND RAM TEMPL
by AnUnknownIndian on May 09, 2009 09:00 AM
Babri Masjid / Ram Mandir controversy was a creation of Rajiv, and BJP rightly took political advantage out of it.
Re: Re: Re: READ HISTORY - WHEN DID BJP START HINDUTVA AND RAM T
by Kamala Advani on May 09, 2009 09:02 AM
BLAME CONGRESS FOR BABAER'S CONQUEST OF INDIA AS WELL..
Re: Re: Re: Re: READ HISTORY - WHEN DID BJP START HINDUTVA AND R
by AnUnknownIndian on May 09, 2009 09:05 AM
Yes I dont take nonsense and so I dont support congress
Re: READ HISTORY - WHEN DID BJP START HINDUTVA AND RAM TEMPLE AG
by Bhim Sen on May 09, 2009 08:56 AM
So what do you suggest. See wherever there is a civilization there will be a religion or some common faith, this is what keeps human different than animals. I think you will agree to it. Now my question is for 1 billion people what do you suggest to follow (don't say nothing, because that's not possible).
Re: Re: READ HISTORY - WHEN DID BJP START HINDUTVA AND RAM TEMPL
by Kamala Advani on May 09, 2009 09:04 AM
MY ADVICE IS DO NOT TRY TO IMMITATE OTHER FAILED RLEIGIONS...
FOLLOW HINDUISM LIKE 100S OF GENERATIONS BEFORE US DID IT... NOT BJP'S BRAND ON EGO CENTRIC HINDUISM...
Re: Re: READ HISTORY - WHEN DID BJP START HINDUTVA AND RAM TEMPL
by vinayak purohit on May 09, 2009 09:09 AM
bhimsen hindutva is fascism nothing to do with hinduism which is peaceful worship of god with their traditional social behaviour. hindutva is continous hate preching against all minority &weaker section of society ,based on pure lies. THEN DREAM OF EATABLISHING A RACIALIST STATE BASED ON APARTEISM LIKE HITLER.end will also be same.
Jai ho! Bharat ki. I request Mr. Modi and BJP-RSS-VHP etc. to come to power, abolish English education system which was enforced on this nation. Make sanskrit and Hindi a compulsory courses from Nursery to High-school. Make sure our 26 local languages are taught in respective states apart from Sanskrit and Hindi. Make sure our local culture of each state is in good health always. Lets abolish convent school, madrasshhaa and bring back Gurukuls. Bring back Vedic culture of love , respect, integrity and Pride. Make this nation Bharat again and not India or Hind00stan, contd...... Jai Bharat jai Bhole nath Jai Sia Ram
Re: For Kamla and others with similar mindset
by Kamala Advani on May 09, 2009 08:36 AM
YEA!!!
THIS WAS PAKISTAN WAS DOING FOR 60 YEARS (ONLY CHANGE IS THEY WERE USING EXTRREME ISLAM, MADRASSAS, URDU/ARABIC) AND YOU ARE SUGGESTING THE SAME METHODOLOGY AND REPLACE IT WITH EXTREME HINDUISM/GURUKULS AND SANSKRIT/HINDI!!!
WHY DO YOU THINK WHAT FAILED IN PAKISTAN WILL WORK IN INDIA!!!
Re: Re: For Kamla and others with similar mindset
by Bhim Sen on May 09, 2009 08:44 AM
I'm also adding the words compassion, love, respect, integrity and pride do you think that is what they teach. You have to think rationally. It's the question of integrity and pride of the nation. See countries like France-Germany-Russia-Japan-China they do not use English but still they are developed they have holding on to their culture and still developing. However in Bharat we feel proud in demolishing our own faith and culture and endorsing someone elses. It's not about religion friend its about feeling proud of what you are?
Re: Re: Re: For Kamla and others with similar mindset
by Kamala Advani on May 09, 2009 08:54 AM
I DO NOT FEEL INFERIOR !!! I FEEL PROUD THAT I CAN SPEAK 5 LANGUAGUES... AND THAT I AM A HINDU...
Re: Re: Re: Re: For Kamla and others with similar mindset
by vinayak purohit on May 09, 2009 09:21 AM
kamala dont blame pakitan.in elections religous parties could not get more than 8%of votes.while in india it 35%. .
Re: Re: Re: Re: For Kamla and others with similar mindset
by vinayak purohit on May 09, 2009 09:22 AM
they have 2 parrallel education system secular&islamic.depending on financial condition people choose.who can afford go to english system.poor go islamic system mainly because it isalmost free. madarssa produce good human being ENGLISH system has produced cr00ks &best thieve of their country.
Re: For Kamla and others with similar mindset
by Bhim Sen on May 09, 2009 08:35 AM
The great nation Bharat has been enslaved my muzl1ms and then British for 1200 yrs. It's remarkable that H1nd00 culture still survived such a long atrocity period (just because of valiant H1nd00s). These muzl1ms and chr1st1an british made it a point to uproot us completely however our valiant forefathers resisted all this and look at the present generation they do not want to look at our own history want to overlook all the sacrifices and atrocites faced and are just running behind Westerners like headless chickens. This is what was and is aimed by westerners. This great nation Bharat and its citizens are the biggest threat to these western looterey countries because they know our abilities so they have made it a point to enslave the mind of the enitre nation. Don't you understand. contd.....
Re: Re: For Kamla and others with similar mindset
by Kamala Advani on May 09, 2009 08:39 AM
THIS IS THE SAME STORY THEY TEACH IN MADRASSAS IN PAKISTAN!!! EXCEPT THAT THEY USE ISLAM AS THE VICTIM AND ALL OTHER RELIGIONS AS AGGRESSORS..
WHY DO YOU THINK THAT THE WHAT FAILED IN PAKISTAN WILL WORK IN INDIA...
Re: For Kamla and others with similar mindset
by Bhim Sen on May 09, 2009 08:35 AM
Everything that was ours is no more ours whatever good we do is not good at all. These westners are lootery of 1st kind. When they were living in caves eating raw fish and goat in jungles Bharat was on the pinnacle of civilization. Don't you know that. This great nation Bharat and its citizens, its civilization in every sense was par-excelence Don't you know that. Greeks-Persians-Mughals-Dutch-Portugese-French-English everyone came to this nation why? Because this nation was all in gold with civilzation at its best. Everyone looted us in whatever way they can. Do you know that. Why not ever ever Bharat invaded any country ? Because Kings don't invade beggars. This nation and its civilization lived like kings, with compassion, love, respect , harmony and pride throught its history untill 7th century when 1slam came into being distroyed everything, and then Chr1stains. Can't you use your logic, What's the point in being called literate. Just because you can read and write in English you call yourself literate, without development of your logical reasoning. What a pity shit, shit, shit. Comeon you r Bharatiye. You are the best and you will be the best, Think and come together to bring the lost glory back. cont...
Re: Re: For Kamla and others with similar mindset
by Kamala Advani on May 09, 2009 08:40 AM
THIS IS THE SAME STORY THEY TEACH IN MADRASSAS IN PAKISTAN!!! EXCEPT THAT THEY USE ISLAM AS THE VICTIM AND ALL OTHER RELIGIONS AS AGGRESSORS..
WHY DO YOU THINK THAT THE WHAT FAILED IN PAKISTAN WILL WORK IN INDIA... ALL YOU ARE DOING IS JUST REPLACING ONE RELIGIOUS PHILOSOPHY WITH ANOTHER...
Re: Re: Re: For Kamla and others with similar mindset
by Bhim Sen on May 09, 2009 08:46 AM
I'm also adding the words compassion, love, respect, integrity and pride do you think that is what they teach. You have to think rationally. It's the question of integrity and pride of the nation. See countries like France-Germany-Russia-Japan-China they do not use English but still they are developed they have holding on to their culture and still developing. However in Bharat we feel proud in demolishing our own faith and culture and endorsing someone elses. It's not about religion friend its about feeling proud of what you are?
Re: Re: Re: Re: For Kamla and others with similar mindset
by Kamala Advani on May 09, 2009 09:06 AM
WHO INTILLED THE INFERIORITY COMPLEX IN INDIANS... BY REPEATEDLY SAYING THAT OTHER RELIGIONS CONSIDER US AS FAILURES...
Re: Re: Re: Re: For Kamla and others with similar mindset
by Siva Balan on May 09, 2009 09:03 AM
Even In Japan-China English speaking is still a pride. But the reality is they don't need English for Engineering or Professional courses. (In the same way u don't need upto HigerSec or Arts level courses).
You loosed to british & mugals because you are physically weak. You still remain weak & sure u will loose again to every body.
Japanese love buddha but still eat beef for the strength to fight for their nation.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: For Kamla and others with similar mindset
by Bhim Sen on May 09, 2009 09:15 AM
My friend : I consider you to be a man of some principals in life now if you encounter a person whose only objective is to win you over at any cost, for how long can you stand in fornt of him. Do you understand what i'm saying. Bharat was and still is to a large extent a nation where people have some integrity and respect in their culture and society. I have worked with English, chinese, Germans (not American till now) and whatever i have judged and experience 1st hand based on that i'm writing on rediff post. I feel that Bhartiye people are the Best in the world in almost every sense, but like the good and bad time in a person's life there is good and bad time in Nation's life. But we should stay confident, proud of ourself and in due course of time we will come back better and hard. But all this after loosing the originality will not make sense my friend.
