We should learn from cricket IPL. In IPL different cricketers are selected irrespective of their country, state. Like that Administrative Cabinet shall be formed with Best Politicians from different parties and run the country.
The Hindu Newspaper in its Sunday edition dated 03-May-2009 has made a study of the preamble of the Manifesto of the Bharathiya Janata Party The Hindu’s team of eminent historians have analyzed the claims made in the preamble and have negated each of them as either false or as exaggerations. A Tamil forum for discussion of culture, society, science, history etc. Has studied the factual basis of the evaluation of the historians as presented by The Hindu and also the veracity of the claims of Dr. Joshi. They have presented Dr. Joshi’s claims, ‘The Hindu’s response to the claims and the facts as discovered by the forum. The presentation is a fitting response to the Hindu report and a must read for all right thinking proud Indians. I am providing the link to this excellent piece of work done by the forum. Hats off. Please pass it on to all your friends and colleagues and give it the maximum publicity. Can be accessed at freepdfhosting(dot)com/d9f982f079(dot)pdf
Re: Indian Culture
by Devadatta Bhaumik on May 10, 2009 11:17 PM
It is a propaganda piece by the Sanghis. It does not need the pseudo-Hindu outfits with crude sectarian outlooks to tell us how great is India. India is great because of its syncretic, liberal, and diverse but thematically unified culture.
The "Hindu" is well within this great Indian realit6y, but the Sangh is not. Singh is a throwback to the 1920s/30s and derive its inspiration from the political thoughts of continental Europe at that time.
Another interesting aspect of this propaganda piece is how these liars (what else are they?) have twisted and wrenched out of context the "Hindu" statements. The questions and answers in this pdf is all made up by the liars themselves. It is pure crude propaganda and nothing to do with what actually the "Hindu" said.
These Sanghis want the "Hindu" to support or condone their evil programs and pogroms. Thus the venom. But the "Hindu" is a great Indian tradition, and it has always been patriotic and liberal, unlike these so-called pseudo-patriots.
Re: Re: Re: Indian Culture
by sameer reddy on May 12, 2009 03:17 PM
oopps u r confused. better luck next time..may be ten years later..when you ar matured enough to understand the real gist of it all.Confused ..totally you are. cant make out true from the lie. Lie presents itself more attractive than truth. You need to be a real thinker to make out that .mr. deva whoever u r.
lo!thy dread(nehru-gandhi)empire,chaos!is restored; light dies before thy uncreating word; thy hand,great anarch!lets the curtain fall; and universal darkness buries all! (apology to:alexander pope ,nirad c chaudhury)
Rahul for PM endoresed by Man Maohan Singh and his mom and sister.
Which clearly shows the people support and trust pappu has as PM. Who will trust a person and ride with that person who is going to drive a truck when he never even ride a bicycle in his life. The same is true the case of pappu. Pappu is such substandard he don't even pass HS. He never earn a single paise to any job done as a normal human. I seriously doubt he is a smugler. That is why he has coulumbian girl in his house. His mom business parter is the international arm dealer, smuggler and mafia don Quottarochi.
SRP is full of crime. All well hid behind the glorified sir name. People open their eyes and undestand the national threat SRP bring to India.
I know many of the people in this forum don't even trust this facts even it come out with clean evidence. But the reality sometimes is dangerous.
When NDA in power on May 17 Advani should take initiate to bring back all the looted money stacked in swiss bank and other safe heaven. All the looters of the country for the last 60 years should be punished.
The Great leaders who prepared the Written Constitution to us were men with great integrity and believed that their followers would uphold the same virtues and take the country to lofty levels-a virtual "Ram Rajya". They never would have envisaged a situation where there will by hundreds of political parties and Amoeba like multiplication on the whims of disgruntled individuals. They never would have dreamt that a candidate getting 30 or 34% of the 40% of veotes cast by the citizens( assuming average 60% of eligible voters participating-which again cuts the figure as equal number of others living without voting qualification-under age,not listed etc- would represent a constituency.India is a Democracy for ALL theoritical reasons and we should be proud that we holds this exercise of Universal Participation still in high esteem. The multiplication of parties and candidates make the system a mockery.Why we cannot start a dialogue for amending the Constitution for providing multilayer polling.Those who do not get a minimum percentage of votes in the preliminery(elimination)round should not contest in the final round.A maximum of 3 candidates only should be in the final round.Yes,it is expensive but for a stable Govt.which have 100% mandate to impliment its policies we should bear it.There must be provision for recalling represntatives if found to be unfit for any reason.A candidate should not be allowed to contest more than one seat.
Re: Changes in Voting Rules
by karthikeyen dayanand on May 07, 2009 01:40 PM
for me india is not a democracy where a common voter cannot vote for the person who is going to lead his country/state. for india to move forward the constitution should be amended so that we the people should directly vote for PM/President/CM (simillar to US)that is called democracy. No we vote for some i_ d_ i_ 0 - t who will sell himself later and pick a pM/CM of their choice.
"Congress or chaos". If congress can not form a government on its own, every party except BJP will extend support from outside or inside. Or else head of each party is a PM candidate. In congress it is Sonia,Rahul,Priyanka or their progeny forever.
Re: THIS CONFIRMS INDIRA GANDHI WHO ONCE SAID
by Mirch Masala on May 07, 2009 10:44 AM
Yes... we had utter chaos from 1998 till 2004 isnt it? The country went to the dogs, their was anarchy, economy was horrible, we all could not even dream of getting out of our houses. Man...you do have skewed thoughts.
Re: Re: THIS CONFIRMS INDIRA GANDHI WHO ONCE SAID
by Rationalist on May 07, 2009 01:09 PM
What about 1947-1998. We were doing great is it? And 2004-2009 was golden era for India. Right?
Re: Re: Re: THIS CONFIRMS INDIRA GANDHI WHO ONCE SAID
by sudhir karenki on May 07, 2009 01:41 PM
i do not know wot mirch masala is talking about economic problems..it was bjp govt who kick started golden quadrilateral and major infrastructural programs. we were never worried of loosing jobs until 2004..
now its congress who invested whooping 1000crores just to remove atal bihari vajpayee's name from golden quadrilateral project. wot more u want? NREGA is not even complementing 1000ppl in villages. i'm very sceptical about the employement status given by govt of India. i have toured more than 1000 states and found this.. also major infrastructural projects are halted..Y???
Look at china now at the downturn they have planned major infrastructural projects that they are the fastest growing economy pipping India!!!
Re: DISHONESTY
by Rationalist on May 07, 2009 01:12 PM
May be people are dishonest. But Congress promotes dishonest people as a policy. No ecnouragement for sinciere people under Congress.
Re: DISHONESTY
by sameer reddy on May 12, 2009 03:21 PM
Would congress have talked in similar manneer if it was Robert vadera who was hijacked. Whole congress would have given away kashmir guajrat and rajasthan to pak to save robert.They think common man's life is cheaper than toilet paper. Congress should be buried in 10 kms deep debris forever.
Re: DISHONESTY
by nihichsu on May 11, 2009 01:14 AM
You seem to have a fudged up brain. How was Kargil a failure? PM of Pakistan at that time Mr. Nawaz Sharief has admitted that Pakistan lost more soldiers during Kargil then wars of 1965 and 1971 put together. Secondly, Kandahar was a failure diplomatically and illustrated very clearly that for us Indians the nation comes last and the family comes first. The way the family members of the passengers on the hijacked plane pressurised the then Indian Govt. was shameless and downgrading us Indians as citizens. We do not have any "Desprem". We are filthily and stinkingly selfish and nothing more than that. We Indians can sell ourcountry and everything else for ourselves and our family. We shameless and gutless Indians.
Re: Re: DISHONESTY
by Rationalist on May 07, 2009 01:14 PM
In Kargil, not an inch of land was lost and more than 100 lives rescued after negotiation. They were demanding release of 70 terrorists. In Mumbai, 22 people killed for every terrorist killed. If you call it success then I can't help.
Re: DISHONESTY
by Mirch Masala on May 07, 2009 10:41 AM
BJP owned up these failures, PM Vajpayee said this on TV. Why do you think they lost in 2004 then?
Re: DISHONESTY
by Subrahmanyam N on May 07, 2009 10:59 PM
How can a party which was in power for 5 years (4 years really) own up for the collective failure of the security system of a country that was ruled by Congress for majority of the time?
The reality is that our government is corrupt from top to the bottom and so are the people. India as a political entity is struggling miserably. What happened in Kargil and during Kandahar and during the more recent Mumbai crisis is for everyone to see. The security forces are untrained, under equipped and unimaginably in denial of their inability to safeguard the lives people of this country. To blame BJP for this collective failure of generations of Congress misrule is simply unacceptable and stupid.God save my country.
