More muslims have been killed by muslims themselves and more mosques blasted by muslims than non muslims all over the world. Let us not ignore facts. Ayodhya has a special place in Hindu mythology. Temple may never be built as Hindus realise, bread and butter issues are more important to them. But what will never be forgotten is the unwillingness to concede a single site (unused for decades)as also temporary use of some land in Amarnath during pilgrimage. A little magnanimity would have given a totally different perspective to cummunal harmony in this country. But alas that was not to be.
Re: M-M
by Haramohan Roy on May 05, 2009 02:25 PM
I appreciate your point on magnanimity, and I hope that you'll condemn the management of those Hindu temples where even all Hindus are not allowed to enter (forget the non-Hindus). Many temples close doors on some Hindus on the basis of caste or gender. Dear friend, we all must understand that Hindus too failed on the point of magnanimity - even to their own people!
Re: Re: M-M
by neelam on May 06, 2009 11:54 AM
Which temple asks caste before you enter? Temples are running by Government and money from temples are going to the government. We all know K2ngi are anti hindu.
Re: Re: M-M
by zafar iqbal on May 05, 2009 03:37 PM
" we all must understand that Hindus too failed on the point of magnanimity - even to their own people" -
it might be true among hindu's themselves, but h1ndu's have never been known to attack and destroy other religious shrines either historically or in the recent past, except for 1992 babri (which was only out of frustration).
Re: Re: M-M
by GODAVARTI RAmesh on May 05, 2009 04:20 PM
Mr Roy , you are talking of intra religious issues . But my post is about inter religious issues. Efforts to reform Hindu religion and abolish evil practices as untouchability etc have been taken up long time back and it is an ongoing process. I do not understand your anology here.
Re: M-M
by Aftab on May 06, 2009 10:09 AM
Can any muslim with a normal sense justify the destruction of temple or church and killing of Hindu & Christians. The answer is a big NO. Then how the destructions of mosque and killing of fellow muslims be justified in the eyes of muslims.
You are trying to say that if someone has eaten one spoon of shit let him eat full bucket as well.
Re: Re: M-M
by neelam on May 06, 2009 11:59 AM
Then why are fighting for Mangolian Babar? It was a right step by hindu to take thier most prestigious place back.
Re: Re: Re: M-M
by ishrat khan on May 06, 2009 06:43 PM
Babri-demolition was planned by BJP & its Terrorist organizations in order to gain vote.. it was bad & should be condemned.. No one has the right to demolish other's holy place.. IS IT HINDUISM AND HINDUTVA.??
Re: hypocrats at helm
by zafar iqbal on May 05, 2009 01:43 PM
i think as long as we dont respect h1ndu sentiments and honor it, we will not be able to live in peace with them.
what would have happened if some hindu king had invaded mecca and demolished the muslim shrine and built a temple over it under the garb of secularism. ?
BJP's business is destroying mosques, churches, inflaming communal voilence, harassing minority communities, collecting money in India and overseas in the name of Ram mandir, hawala business, promising people that they will build Ram mandir at election time, this is some of the BJP business not building Mandir or Masjid.
Re: BJP's business
by Indian Citizen on May 05, 2009 12:04 PM
Modern Indian wants peace and job. He knows that Mandir / Masjid can not solve their day to day problem of ROTI, KAPADA AUR MAKAAN. BJP who collected hundreds of crores in Rath Yatra of Adwani, fooled masses by keeping the issue alive. Public now understands that it has not only broken trust of those who wanted Temple but created communal issues for generations to get resolved. India needs represetative of common man to solve and address to their life problems more than any thing.
Re: Re: BJP's business
by arungopal agarwal on May 05, 2009 12:27 PM
No power on earth can win hate with hate, Congress initially in order to save their vote bank, divided society in between Hindus and Muslims later on SC/ST, region, language etc.,etc., Nothing wrong, if Hindus are ignored and they lean towards BJP, as others are just siding with minority due to their vote bank, not due to their love with them.
Re: Re: Re: BJP's business
by IA on May 05, 2009 08:29 PM
isn't BJP doing the same thing, they said we will build the mandir there isn't that dividing communities. Just don't bother that issue and focus on economy and jobs for everyone. what did BJP do when they were in power? BJP's false promises just to get votes.
Re: Re: Re: Re: BJP's business
by neelam on May 06, 2009 12:02 PM
What is wrong in building temple? If I say I am a proud hindu why that hurts you? Why proud hindu become communal??
Why this msg was reported for abuse? If u don't hv logical reply don't block.
1) Sonia Parivar is using fake surname of Gandhi. Indira married Feroze Khan, but started writing Feroze & Indira Gandhi. It was a big fraud on the nation, which is still continuing. Now Priyanka is married to a 'Vadera', but she also likes to use the same fraud surname. Why Indira & Sonia did not use surnames of their respective fathers (Nehru & Maino), but Priyanka is trying to do so?
2)When many major countries r pressurising Swiss govt for giving bank account details, why their govt is not doing so? Instead u r criticising BJP for raising this issue. Does it mean that u yrself hv lot of money in Swiss banks?
3) Why Afzal is being not hanged as per SC order? His hanging would hv been a warning to the terrorists.
4) Why Pota was removed?
5) Why r u with DMK, who were earlier attacked by yr party as sympathisers of Rajiv killers?
6) Why do u criticise Left during elections and then take their help in running the govt?
7) Why did u not give a Loksabha ticket to MMS, whom u r projecting as PM candidate? Is it not disrespect to the parliamentary democracy?
8) Why r u ruling by remote control without any responsibility?
9) Why do u not promote young people other than Rahul & Priyanka?
Alarmed at Jail Singh's popularity Indira promoted Bhindrawale, as she did not want anyone in the party to become more popular than her. Bhindrawale went on to propmote terror in the name of Khalistan. It took some yrs before this got controlled.
In 1985 Shah Bano won a case in SC. After this communal Mslims started demonstrating. To appease these communal parasites, Rajiv, who had brute majority in Loksabha, ammended the constitution to undo the ruling of SC! After this there was resentment amomgst the peaceful secular Hindus. So he opened the gates of Ram Mandir in Ayodhya. This resulted in formation of Babri Action Committee. At this stage BJP took advantage of the people's resentment against 'pseudo secular' policies of Rajiv. Rajiv also threw the govt of Farooq Abdulah and rigged the elections in Kashmir, which gave birth to terrorism in Kashmir. Before that Kashmir was peaceful. He also banned Satanic verses, even before it was banned in Pak & Iran.
Thus Cong's policy of appeasing communal Mslims since 1985, is the root cause of communal divide in the country. The strengthening of BJP is as a backlash of this communal approach of Congress, who claim themselves to b secular. But they don't support secular Mslims like Taslima, Dr Kalam, Salman Rushdie etc.
Re: Re: Congr responsible for communal divide in the country
by neelam on May 06, 2009 12:06 PM
Government bana na pae aur na itne number ho ki government gira paen.
Re: Re: Re: Congr responsible for communal divide in the country
by ishrat khan on May 06, 2009 06:54 PM
WHAT WAS DONE BY CONGRESS WAS WRONG ..BUT WHAT BJP IS DOING - MASS KILLING IN GUJRAT, DEMOLITION OF CHURCH IN ORRISSA, COMMUNAL SPEECHES..IS IT GOOD?? BJP SHOULD BE PUNISHED FOR KILLINGS..
