ALL INDIANS MUST FIRST ANALYSE,EACH MINISTER'S FAMILIES, REAL CLOSELY:
- the sole child-daughter of pm 'doc', works in usa, and her live-in boyfriend is an arab from saudi.her favorite writings are extremist-abusive against hinduism, and fanatic-rightwing support for islam bordering against christianity, all in the open...
- good ol' Rahulll's g-friends, since his days in switzerland/europe and usa, vary from white chicks of europe & usa, to a recent south-american columbian, and now indian variety seems his favorite.
- cm of delhi sheila Dixit, her sole-daughter ran away and married a mohammadean, when she was a teen. today she is a dedicated islamic propagandist. shiela Dixit is CONGRE ASS CM.
- Madame appointed a guy to head the CBI, a sardarji. and his daughter??well, sardarji's daamaad(son in law) is a lead at a massive madrasaa. He helps him to find out QUATROCHI IS GOOD. AND MODI IS BAD FOR COUNTRY.
- and pray, who's getting most major airport contracts nation-wide?? an Islamic company of Dubai.
- guess, which party has the 'MAX PERCENTAGE' of Muslims, in many cities its now more than 40% ? no points for answering this!!its the CONGRESS!
- and which party has the MAX COUNT OF CONVICTED BUT CURRENTLY ARE MINISTERS ! YES THOSE SITTING IN JAILS!!
- and madame gave the multi-billion DOLLAR metro rail project to ?? WHO ?? its a paki company registered in karachi!
PLEASE BEWARE CONGRESS.and please be very careful during cast your vote.
Re: 10 years for BJP.......Vote for BJP
by Prasanth M on May 04, 2009 04:33 PM
just look around..what the congress has given india in the last 60 yrs...Agriculture- green revolution inspite of having such a large population we are self sufficient in food...irrigation projects, innumerable dams, power stations, ISRO , Roads, the huge Indian army which is the 4 largest in the world, white revolution(we are the largest milk producer in the world)..the Indian railways(the largest in the world)...nationalised banks...100's of medical colleges, 10000's of public health centers,a enviable IT sector, IIT's ,IIM's.airport modernization,mid-day meal scheme, national rural employment guarantee scheme, Right to information act, Sarva Shiksha abyiyan.the 100's of 1000;s of factories..the list is endless.WHOSE VISION???..what has been the contribution of the other parties both in the centre and state..caste politics, communal riots, parliament attacks,nandigram,pledging our gold stocks at the Bank of England.except for the golden quadrangle , what else has been done by the BJP.Pokran the nuclear bobm was build by the Narasimha Rao government..the BJP on assuming power detonated it in 2 weeks..any fool knows that it takes years to build a bomb!!..also dont forget POKRRAN 1 ..WITHOUT A FIRST THERE WOUNDNT HAVE BEEN A SECOND....which rivers did the BJP connect??....just check for urself if more PSU's were disinvested during BJP regime or during Congress regimes.lesser said abt the 3rd front the better
Re: Re: 10 years for BJP.......Vote for BJP
by gautam sawhney on May 04, 2009 03:40 PM
U seem like one who is just blind.....let me say Mumbai massacre, Qutarrochi freedom, Kasab's good stay, Mulla in jail enjoying stay,what more you want.
You might think that Gujarat is outracing and outpacing India, and Modi is singularly responsible for the boom. In fact, according to the Centre for Monitoring Indian Economy, Gujarat commanded a huge lead over other states: In September 1995, the state’s share was 14.45% of all projects under implementation in the country. At 9.43%, its nearest rival, Maharashtra, was a poor second. Maharashtra overtook Gujarat, but in December 2001 its lead over Gujarat was less than a percentage point. Then something happened, and by September 2002, Gujarat’s share fell to 8.78%; three years later, it was down to 7.67%, with Orissa ahead of Gujarat, and Karnataka close behind. Since then, Gujarat has recovered, but only slowly, and today commands 9.57% of investments in India. It is behind Orissa and Andhra Pradesh. Maharashtra is only half a per cent behind, and Haryana, West Bengal and Karnataka are trying to catch up.
Manmohan is nominated PM --this is not an acusation this is an admission by the Man himself .In an interview to TV channel he says that I told Sonia ji that I lack base among masses but Sonia ji even then nominated him PM. May be percisely for the fact that MMS lacks the mass base coz in fact he is just keeping the seat warm for Rahul and so a leader withou mass suits this plan . This further confirmed by Rahul's statement yesterday that Manmohan will be the next PM because it is the wish of her mother and he understands the feelings of her mother well. This means it is the wish of Sonia and nobody else matters . The grand 125 yrs old party doesn't have any views of its own -what a shame..
Congress party is the root cause of all problems by JGN on May 04, 2009 11:19 AM Permalink | Hide replies
Babjri Masjid issued was a creation of Congress Party itself. The then PM, Rajiv Gandhi opened the gates of the disputed structure to the Hiindus for worship in the wake of Shah Bano Case (which in any case did not help the Musliims). Mr. L.K. Advani and Mr. Syed Sahabuddin (I do not know whether he is still alive) saw opportunity in the same. Both exploited the same to the fullest extent. The Congress party did not gain from that in any way. This incident helped BJP to increase the number of MPs in the subsequent election. And the rest, as the saying goes, is History.
Re: Re: Congress party is the root cause of all problems by JGN on May 04, 2009 11:23 AM Permalink Who will make the Re1igious fanatics understand that?
Forward | Report abuse Re: Re: Re: Congress party is the root cause of all problems by Muhammed Rashid on May 04, 2009 12:14 PM Permalink I will make them understand. Remake Advani Mosque side by side Ram Mandir. We will Indianise the name of Babri to Advani. Any way after Advaniji's death many roads and buildings will be named after him. Why not that mosque which he helped pull down.
by signor maino on May 04, 2009 12:28 PM
MR: You indeed are a clown. The Temple complex must be vacated by the Musl1ms, they have no business insisting on the site at all. It is people like you who will never allow a peaceful rapprochement on the issue.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Solution
by Against Pseudos on May 04, 2009 01:21 PM
And finally Rashid will turn around and start accusing everyone other than herself as communal, becoz guess what? She's NOT praying at Babri.... :) She just wants to use Babri to create a communal disharmony in India...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Solution
by Twister on May 04, 2009 01:30 PM
Yes, even Muslms in Bangladesh were so affected with the "NOT praying" in Bbri Masjidthat they destroyed hundreds of temples (where people WERE praying) in retaliation. Thats the extent of obsession with their religion.
Manmohan Singh has been the weakest and servile PM India has ever seen! The PM does not even have any control or authority over his own cabinet! remember the strictures passed in court against his cabinet members-Soren, Baalu, Anbumani Ramdoss, etc? And the way the trust vote was won by using criminals and unprincipled alliances?? The way the CBI has been blatantly misused and degraded from it premier agency status, the utterly bland and knee jerk reactions to teror incidents round the country.. The examples are numerous of this spinel ess limpet who crawls when Sonia asks him to bend! Even our neighbours from Lanka to Nepal and Bangladesh now care 2 hoots as the situation today shows! No wonder he cant even fight a lok Sabha electon inspite of being projected as PM
Re: Re: Re: Puppert PM
by Prasanth M on May 04, 2009 10:01 PM
If u consider Vajpayee & Advani(he praised Jinnah in PAK soil & after returning to india, being reprimanded by the RSS & his own party..took back hi statement) a puppet.then Manmohan is also a puppet..in coalition era you will have to discuss within ur party & all partners b4 a decision is taken...sometimes compromises have to be reached..as long as it is not deleterious to India, it should be okay..unfortunately that is how our democracy functions...unless one of the 2 main parties BJP or Congress come to power on its own..this will continue...Honestly i liked the Vajpayee government..it was a very progressive & development oriented govt.infact in the next elections i voted for O.Rajagopal of the BJP from Trivandrum.BUT the BJP behaved like a real thug in the opposition...opposing things they themselves had committed during their regime...I am also not particularly fond of Advani..if it was Arun Jailtly , i would probably vote for the BJP..till that time it will be for the congress!!..any ways keep the 3rd front out..they will take our country to pre-independence era..i am already sufffering in Kerala!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Puppert PM
by aurora borealis on May 05, 2009 04:32 AM
For starters - Jinnah wanted Pakistan to be a secular state and Advani was hinting at that when he praised Jinnah. The comment was probably made to rebuke Pakistan for becoming a radical Islamic state. Of course the hue and cry us Indians make, just prove that we are shameless in concentrating on useless things. You liked the Vajpayee Govt but your last statement was just ridiculing them, so I understand you are confused and have a habit of commenting on everything.
Being a puppet of an organisation/culture and being a puppet of one madam, is different - I guess you are old enough to understand that? You are free to vote whoever you want. It's a free world.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Puppert PM
by aurora borealis on May 05, 2009 11:05 AM
Prasanth, one anti-BJP guy quoted a few lines of Jinaah somewhere in this forum, where Jinnah said - Now I think we should keep that in front of us as our ideal and you will find that in course of time Hindus would cease to be Hindus and Muslims would cease to be Muslims, not in the religious sense, because that is the personal faith of each individual, but in the political sense as citizens of the State.
That guy used it to defend Jinnah on some other discussion. So Jinnah is good when Congress wants it and bad when Advani praises him.
I still think Jinnah was better in moving a bunch of fanatics to another country, else India might not have progressed as much as it did.
And holding on to a politician's words uttered on a foreign soil, is not going to help anyone's cause. MMS also praised the British, so we can accuse him of insulting the thousands of people who gladly gave their lives to throw them out of India.
I think someone has asked you - do you believe if Madam Sonia took the decisions, the news would be taped and delivered to your house personally? You dont know what goes behind the scenes any more than I do.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Puppert PM
by aurora borealis on May 05, 2009 06:10 PM
Actually, you accused and I counter-accused :-). So currently you are doing a counter-counter-accuse which is equivalent to running around in circles :-)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Puppert PM
by Prasanth M on May 05, 2009 12:58 PM
exactly, that is what i am asking u..how do u know whether those decisions were taken by Sonia and handed over to manmohan..where u a fly on their wall?...if u can accuse why cant i counter accuse...till now the BJP has not said, which all were the decisions which were taken by Sonia instead of Manmohan and more importantly if they were detrimental to India..if they were beneficial to India, why should u bother?? as regards Jinnah i have heard that statement , i don't know its authenticity BUT the problem is Advani came back to India & retracted it!!!..Manmohan goes & praises the British or even that moron Bush...but doesnt retract from those statements on landing in India!! moreover the person who mentioned that in this forum is not a congress spokesperson, so cant take that as a congress stand...nor am i a congress spokesperson.Congress itself has so many negatives...they probably have the largest no: of Corrupt, useless politicians..they have been involved in riots..they could have done a lot more for the poor people of this country...when i say this the BJP is not far behind although some of their state govt in MP,Gujarat & Chattisgarh are doing good work..My support is for Manmohan who is a clean,development oriented, visionary leader..when mass murders,looters, rapist get elected to LS,it is sad that a person of his calibre cant get elected..it shows poorly on us!!He is mainly responsible for the development that we have today.as FM and now PM..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Puppert PM
by Prasanth M on May 05, 2009 09:04 AM
Its only Advani who said that Jinnah wanted Pak to be a secular state...during partition Jinnah was quite adamant that Pakistan was only for muslims..hence most of the hindus from that land crossed over to India & many muslims from here did likewise.. Yes, i liked the Vajpayee government & even might vote for the BJP in future if a leader whom i like (Arun Jaitly) becomes its PM candidate..there is no confusion.there is no rule that we should vote for the same party every time..i am free to chose b/w the parties just as u are...i didnt reprimand the Vajpayee government, i said that it behaved like a thug in the opposition during the present Manmohan government..& after seeing the functioning of this government, i am convinced that it is better than Vajpayee's. In case of the puppets...i never said that Manmohan is a puppet of Sonia, just read my article once again.and i have been asking u all to prove that Manmohan is a puppet..which decisions..how do u know that decisions have been taken under the influence of Sonia??..its just an allegation.In coalition if discussing with all those who favor you is puppetry then i said BJP has also done the same..
Our present PM Dr. Manmohan Singh is a shame to India and he has done the most injustice to the parliamentory democracy which our great nation has followed till now. He is not evern ready to face the mandate of the people during his 5 year tenure. Thus he maligned the priciples of the parliamentory democracy where a leader needs to be elected to the lower house and then he needs to be selected as the leader of the house.
But in this case this WEAK PM has been selected by an Italian lady so he requires to be a humble servant to that family and not to the Indian people. Thus he has very much degraded the post of PM. He has proved his loyalty manytimes including the Quatorochchi case etc.
So Mr PM if you have any moral authority left with you then please step down asap. You have already labelled by the people of India as the most weakest PM we ever had.
Re: This PM is a shame to INDIA
by Prasanth M on May 04, 2009 12:52 PM
Just because the BJP keeps harping on the "weakest PM" theme, u dont have to parrot it!!.tell me 1 single instance or decision which Manmohan singh has taken according to Sonia's advice..the UPA government worked according to the National Common Minimum Programme..and over 70% of what is in the manifesto has been implemented( u can check it out for urself)..ofcourse political & party decisions are taken in consultations with Sonia, she been the party president..BUT i am sure u wont be able to show me ONE single administrative decision taken under her influence.On the contrary in the case of the Indo-US nuclear deal, of it was Sonia's decision she would have continued with the left's support & kept the deal in the dustbin.But Manmohan singh was determined and was ready to sacrifice his government for the deal b'coz he was convinced of its necessity for India's future..Tell me how many Indian politicians will sacrifice their chair for a deal for which he has nothing to gain personally..the problem is we all keep thinking of ourselves only.we dont think abt our children & grandchildren..how they are going to live in a future india...will they have power, water , infrastructure, jobs..for our narrow political gains we critizise learned men like Manmohan...we have no problem in defeating him in a Lok Sabha election, while keep electing mass murderers, rapists, dacoits,corrupt good for nothing fools.if learned men like
Re: Re: Re: This PM is a shame to INDIA
by Prasanth M on May 04, 2009 04:43 PM
because people like u keep on posting the same foolish things again and again...ours is a democracy...i have as much right as u have, to put across my point of view any number of times..its for u to accept it or not!!
Re: Re: Re: This PM is a shame to INDIA
by Prasanth M on May 04, 2009 04:40 PM
which decision are u talking abt???...just like the BJP...u are not giving me any specific decision so taken...it is easy to make allegation..any fool can make one...prove it...even during the BJP regime,the RSS was consulted on most decisions... secondly...which specific decision taken by this Government, on the advise of Sonia Gandhi was deleterious to the country.if it is not deleterious, then what is the harm in listening to her or for that matter anyone's advice...even ur or mine!!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: This PM is a shame to INDIA
by Stellar on May 04, 2009 06:02 PM
you are right in saying that it's easy to make allegations. You guys prove it again and again with your complaints on Kandahar and Gujarat riots and Orissa riots.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: This PM is a shame to INDIA
by Prasanth M on May 04, 2009 09:34 PM
What happened in Kandahar was seen by everyone.What do u want to say.that the terrorists were not handed over?.or that Jaswant didnt accompany them..or that these same terrorists later did not form the Jaish-e-mohammed which was involved in numerous terrorist attacks including the Parl attack.As abt the Gujarat riots,it is in court.we will see the verdict.it is not the congress which said that Modi did not follow the rajdharma or that he is a modern day "nero"..it was the Supreme court..even Vajpayee had commented that Rajdharma was not followed.The same can be said of the Delhi sikh riots...if people involved are associated with the riots they should be hanged..no doubt abt that..BUT 2 wrongs dont make a right...just because the congress was involved in the sikh riots cannot absolve the BJP from its involvement in the Gujarat, earlier mumbai or Orissa riots...I am also a hindu who strongly believes that violence & killing of any community is not a solution to any problem...it is only going to aggravate it.infighting among the people will bring destruction to our country..e-mail's put up by terrorists during the recent bomb attacks in Bangalore, Gujarat clearly mentions the Gujarat riots as the reason for those disgruntled youth to turn towards terrorism...& finally tell me which law can prevent a terrorist attack??Arun Jaitley recently came on a show by CNN-IBN & said the very same thing THESE TERRORISTS ARE READY TO COMMIT SUICIDE,what law will u use against them!!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: This PM is a shame to INDIA
by aurora borealis on May 05, 2009 04:35 AM
One sentence - if Congress was in power, they would have done exactly the same. So stop harping on Kandahar like you have nothing else to do!
Riots cannot be managed and I doubt if any sane person would support riots. Still you go on talking as if BJP is favouring riots. Even if Modi or someone else is involved, you cannot put them in jail without substantial evidence, nor can you expect BJP to throw them out without proof.
BJP wants nationalism towards what country? They want to create a different country with the same name of India - a Hindu version of pakistan. Why do that here? They can do it in siberia or africa .. They don't know the difference between Indian nationalism and Hindu ethnic centricism
Re: Im sick of hearing BJP's single minded slogan
by Tulika Chatterjee on May 04, 2009 12:03 PM
I dont recall BJP ever saying they wanted this kind of country that you are portraying. But would be obliged if you reveal the source of information.
PS : I dont consider hallucinations a reliable source of information.
Re: Re: Im sick of hearing BJP's single minded slogan
by vj on May 04, 2009 12:23 PM
even if sources are given,u will not accept, likewise,if bengali is told to be involved in intense black magic, they would never accept.
Re: Re: Re: Im sick of hearing BJP's single minded slogan
by Tulika Chatterjee on May 04, 2009 12:54 PM
Any source you can talk about, rather than commenting on my mother tongue? You are accusing BJP of divisive politics, and what good work are you doing by picking at names and surnames and religion and caste? When you do it, its perfectly logical, right?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Im sick of hearing BJP's single minded slogan
by Against Pseudos on May 04, 2009 12:58 PM
Tulika: Fantastic reply.. I have watched these "pseudo seculars" like vj, tj, Rashid etc. etc. etc. and they are all pathetically lame in repeating the Kaangress language when talking about BJP.... ;)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Im sick of hearing BJP's single minded sloga
by neelam on May 07, 2009 10:01 AM
If someone can not start talking without religion, he/she is sure s-ick-ular. If someone can not start without caste, the person should be castiest. If someone can not start without colour the person is racist. The person can not start without rediculing indian gods is K@s-Ti. The person can not start without Jinnah or ram janmbhoomi is jihadi by nature. The person do all above is K2n-gi
Indians have to learn to think beyond issues of identity. We have SO MANY MORE problems. Congress party in its post-Independence era has been a shameful den of corruption and personality politics. But compared to the set of evils unleashed by the religion and caste-based parties, it looks golden. The problem in Indian politics is lack of choice or even real competition! Drive out the north indians to get marathi votes. Threaten the muslims (varun gandhi style) to get hindu votes. Scare the upper caste hindus by pointing to reservations to get their votes. Promise more reservations to SC/ST to gain their votes. Everyone is trying to gain at the expense of someone else who is always another Indian. Where is there any choice?
MMS, Chidambaram and the technocrats in IAS/IFS are level headed people who are less political/ideological than others. Leftists don't play identity politics but at the same time are too ideologically driven to trust.
My vote would then be for congress not because they are good but just to avoid the other worse possibilities. Such is the condition of the Indian voter who does not care for identity issues.
Re: Indian politics
by Muhammed Rashid on May 04, 2009 11:49 AM
If BJP comes to power same shameful thing will happen. Atleast now Congress has new breed of professional honest leaders. BJP has same old bunch. Even during their tenure their president took bribe on camera. The BJP leaders are only giving out rhetoric. They have only one Modi to show off. Who knows? His cupboard might be full of skeletons. Advani has gone into senile dementia phase. He is less educated than MMS. Arun Jaitely is lawyer. So telling lie comes easy to him. Arun Shourie is Indian version of Goebbels. There was on Pramod Mahajan an acceptable guy, but unfortunately died. It is better for India to have a coalition govt with Congress at helm. BJP is better for opposition. Let them mature. We can give them 10 more years in opposition.
Re: Re: Re: Indian politics
by Prasanth M on May 04, 2009 04:51 PM
I am not an advocate of Quattrochi but During the last 18 years..close to 9 years were ruled by non- Congress parties..including the one by VP Singh, who during the 1989 election campaign was going all ard India saying that he will prove the Bofors case in 100 days(just like the BJP is saying now abt the black money issue)...years have passed, including 6 years of exclusive BJP rule during which they themselves lost multple cases in Malaysian courts regarding the extradition of Quattrochi, for want of evidence...if anyone has evidence against Quattrochi or Gandhi family or anyone against the congress,nothing is preventing them from approaching the courts..Arun Jaitley himself one of the senior most advocates of the Supreme court...he knowns very well that there is no definitive evidence...all this is no more than election stunts..will die away once the election is over
Re: Re: Re: Re: Indian politics
by aurora borealis on May 05, 2009 04:37 AM
Talking about evidence, most of the accusations anti-BJP people make, are also just allegations. What evidence did people have against Modi or Sadhvi when they started the song and dance quite a while back?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Indian politics
by Prasanth M on May 05, 2009 08:39 AM
similarly are all allegations in Bofors case,to be used only at election time.Even the main architect of these allegations, VP SINGH came on TV during 2004 to say that he had NEVER said that Rajiv or his family were involved in Bofors..yet this was the very theme of the 1989 elecctions. If u consider Jagdish Tytler & Sajjan kumar as being involved in the 1984 riots, u will also have to consider Modi & co to be equally culpable for he Gujarat riots..why double standards??..Advani & Uma Bharati were present at the time of the Babri demolition..even they woudnt deny it..that they couldnt possibly control a mob is another thing..but they played a part in wiping up mob frenzy.BJP is using the hindus just to gain votes, just as the other parties use minorities for votes.after election time, the BJP will forget abt the Hindus & the Congress abt the Muslims.that's POLITICS...That's why i said, if anybody has any evidence, they can take that to court..why air it on TV. Yes, i also believe that Congress would have done the same thing during Kandahar.BUT remember that they didnt raise this issue during 2004 elections..this time it was in response to Advani's allegation that the PM is weak & is a puppet..what proof do u have??...Advani wrote in his book, that he didnt have any knowledge of the release of terrorists..yet his cabinet collegues like Jaswant, Fernandes said on TV otherwise..so is the STRONG leader lying to us.he hasnt given a reply on this yet and he probably never will!!
Mamnmohan Singh's speeech seems liks KHISYANI BILLI KHAMBA NOCHE. Mr PM look at the your track record of handling terrorism , only after Mumbai you woke up and did something remarkable.why did you waste so much time.Further look at apthetic consition of New Delhi.Congress is making India ready for Great SHame during CG games.
Re: Re: Congress will make India shame
by gautam sawhney on May 04, 2009 01:54 PM
I dont feel I am doing something which is wrong on front of how the respected Union Leaders like Union leaders like Lalu, and other doing. First look at your selected leaders and then come to me.