The institution of separate electorates for the Musliims was the first expression of the pernicious two nation theory, which ultimately resulted in the foundation of Pakistan. Published documents fully establish the fact that this was created by deliberate policy as an effective method to keep the Hiindus and Musliims apart. Lady Minto, the wife of the Viceroy who was reponsible for this piece of political Machiavellianism, noted with glee that her husband had by this act ensured for a long time the authority of the British in India. The system of separate electorates was a simple device. It provided that Musliims should be represented only by Musliims, elected only by Musliim voters and, further, that no Musliim could represent a Hiindu constituency or vice versa. By this expedient the Musliims in India from Cape Comorin to Kashmir became a separate political entity, perpetually at odds with the Hiindus and judging all issues from the point of view of a reliigious community. As the Musliim candidates to the legislatures had to depend on a religiious franchise, their views and policies came to be moulded by considerations of religiious fanaticism. India took over forty years to be rid of this vicious system and that, too, at the terrible cost of a partition. (Excerpts from ASIA AND WESTERN DOMINANCE by KM PANIKKAR, noted Historian and Diplomat) - book freely available at the web of MultiVarsity dot com
Re: Origin of Two Nation Theory
by arjun on May 04, 2009 07:39 PM
Why you and me not getting CONVERTED.... I have a JOB.. I have an income....I am indepent
They want to build temples & masjids all over india NOT JOBS........
Vote for a party that brings JOBS.....PEACE...UNITY...& STABILITY...
Not the one that brings, war with neighbours,.. builds temples and musjids insted of JOBS....
Let them Accept all cultures and languages….and religions…. INDIA. .is…. UNITY in DIVERSITY.......as the first Mantra…
Re: Re: Re: Re: Origin of Two Nation Theory
by JGN on May 04, 2009 07:43 PM
Jolly well paste the same message thousands of times. I don't want to waste my time reporting your message for "abuse"! Enjoy!!!
What is the objective of conversion by
JGN on May 04, 2009 07:15 PM | Hide replies | Hide message
What is the objective of conversion to Chriistianity? Defnitely it is not for helping the poor. In that they might have helpped the poor Chriistians first. There are millions of poor Christiians in India who cannot even afford two square meals a day.
Re: What is the objective of conversion
by arjun on May 04, 2009 07:39 PM
Why you and me not getting CONVERTED....
I have a JOB.. I have an income....I am indepent
They want to build temples & masjids all over india
NOT JOBS........
Vote for a party that brings JOBS.....PEACE...UNITY...& STABILITY...
Not the one that brings, war with neighbours,.. builds temples and musjids insted of JOBS....
Let them Accept all cultures and languages….and religions….
INDIA. .is…. UNITY in DIVERSITY.......as the first Mantra…
JGN again the people is using the word christian,believers church is behind the conversion in india..they are getting 800 crores a month or so,no rss or vhp wants to touch him,,wot was his name i forget,well amritha muth is also behind .JGN lemme ask u ,any of the indian orthodox christians churches is doin conversions ????and on top they dont even accept dalits as a member of the church.do u have some answers ofor fluffyy>??
Re: JGN ....tell...
by JGN on May 04, 2009 07:11 PM
My dear dil jo, the common H1ndus who do not have any knowledge about Chriistianity cannot differentiate between the good Churches doing selfless services and the dubious denominations indulging in conversions by deception (not forced conversions as some people say)!! It is for the established Churches to expose the nefarious activities of such denominations. A few months back one demoniation of Church accused Pentacostal Mission of deceptive conversions and they started crying foul that the orthodox Churches acted like "Judas"!
Pl tell me frankly what is the objective of conversion?
Re: Re: JGN
by chilly on May 04, 2009 06:24 PM
Oh Amen sounds goooooooooood, It sound me once upon a time JGN was clearn in a church or in a Mosque. ahahahahha
Advani's India is not really shining at this moment but if Advani goes in sunshine with full of oil on his bald head will shine for sure. Ahahaha ahahahah ahaahahahah
In the words of Prof Richards: “Rajput willingness to accept Mughal hegemony was not won without force”. Indeed, it took Akbar fully two months to breach the walls of the fortified city of Chitor, defended by just 5,000 Rajput warriors left behind by Udai Singh when he took himself off to a “subordinate fortress”.
It is to be noted that when Akbar himself “killed Jaimal, the Rajput commander of Chitor, with a well-aimed musket shot, whose death broke the morale of the defenders” the rite of jauhar was performed by setting fires as the “Rajputs killed their families and prepared to die in a supreme sacrifice … in a day filled with hand to hand struggles until virtually all the defenders died.
“The Mughal troops slaughtered another 20-25,000 ordinary persons, inhabitants of the town and peasants from the surrounding area on the grounds that they had actively helped in the resistance. Only an audacious body of one thousand musketeers, men of Kalpi who had done much damage to the Mughals in the siege, managed to escape Akbar’s wrath … Udai Singh, however, remained at large, uncaptured by the Mughals until his death four years later.”
The above is not meant to say that Akbar was (merely) a cruel and merciless man. Such, and worse, were the ways of the conquerors in those times. Akbar proved to be a great monarch and in his later years began to abhor bigotry, re1igious chauvinism and intolerance. But that’s another story.
Re: Re: From Udaipur, one more time-By Kamran Shafi (The Dawn)
by arjun on May 04, 2009 07:40 PM
Why you and me not getting CONVERTED.... I have a JOB.. I have an income....I am indepent
They want to build temples & masjids all over india NOT JOBS........
Vote for a party that brings JOBS.....PEACE...UNITY...& STABILITY...
Not the one that brings, war with neighbours,.. builds temples and musjids insted of JOBS....
Let them Accept all cultures and languages….and religions…. INDIA. .is…. UNITY in DIVERSITY.......as the first Mantra…
You have claimed that you are History Graduate. Can you tell us why the 1slamic invaders or the European colonizers failed to convert India into an 1slamic or Chriistian Country??
Re: @ pamsask - I do not want reply from any one else
by Radhakrishna Iyer on May 05, 2009 05:27 AM
You probably have too much of a knowledge of history to be practically still dwelling in the past!
Wake up man. Get a life and live for the present without the burden of past injustices.
Re: @ pamsask - I do not want reply from any one else
by Meh on May 04, 2009 05:53 PM
Common sense!!!! It is all about power to rule and not about religion. The foriegn invaders cam to rule the country and have the power and not any religious agenda Similarly even today BJP wants the power to rule and do not have any religious agenda. they are just using religion to get the the position of power and doesnt matter if few hundreds are killed for it.
If they had any religious agenda hadnt they build the temple and done somethinbg for downtrodden millions of hindus. Understand politics!!!
Re: Re: @ pamsask - I do not want reply from any one else
by JGN on May 04, 2009 05:56 PM
I am not a supporter of BJP. So keep your skewed logic for yourself and your ilk. Which other Political party has done anything for the "downtrodden millions of hindus" or Mus1ims or Chriistians? BJP is just another political party. Why do you have such expetation from them??
Re: @ pamsask - I do not want reply from any one else
by Meh on May 04, 2009 05:41 PM
bcos they came to rule india, not do any religious activity like BJP
Re: Re: @ pamsask - I do not want reply from any one else
by JGN on May 04, 2009 05:50 PM
Meh, what is your level of knowledge in History? I have enough knowledge of History. Don't try to bluff.
Re: Re: @ pamsask - I do not want reply from any one else
by Stellar on May 04, 2009 05:45 PM
That says it all. Pamsask is a coward and he sends a moron to defend him.
You have claimed that you are History Graduate. Can you tell us why the 1slamic invaders or the European colonizers failed to convert India into an 1slamic or Chriistian Country??
Re: @ pamsask
by chilly on May 04, 2009 05:30 PM
Because Muslims and christians who came to India not for converting people or invade , they came to help the Indian people and they left India for you. We should thank them for their help.
Re: Re: Re: @ pamsask
by JGN on May 04, 2009 05:53 PM
Stellar, these guys can f00l only the illiterate tribals/dalits of MP or Orissa only. They cannot debate with a person having knowledge of many Re1igions.
Re: @ pamsask
by tajender on May 05, 2009 02:59 AM
during muslim time conversion was not state policy.moghuls wanted to build prosperous india. HIND00S ARE BEST SLAVE &WORST MASTERS.EVERY RULER wants good slaves.this was the primary reason.
JGN, wht is tht ue debating here like, a frog in the pond... Wana try sumthin new & with more matured people..?? If yes, let me know..i'll give u the link
Re: Re: Only f/ JGN
by caspi on May 04, 2009 06:06 PM
JGN, i can give it ..bt, i realised tht its not for the people like u.. we do have healthy discussion there & no way any religions are involved...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Only f/ JGN
by caspi on May 04, 2009 06:22 PM
belive me, iam not joking... with the kind of debate u do.. it wld def spoil the name & reputation of our country..
