Modi is using Media to show him as a good leader and good development work, but actually it is a propoganda for which Modi is paying in millions to Media and this is public money. He want to cover his bad image and show the people of India that he is clean and good leader. But it will work in short term but in long term it won't wrok at all. Now again his colour is fading when SC ask his crimes in Gujarat riots case. What he did for Gujarat development, it is not govt. work, what Gujarat is developed today is Gujarati people's hard work and their earning inside and out side India. A good portion of Gujarat's economy is coming Overseas in dollars or pounds. Modi's development is nothing but a propoganda to attract the people. But it is true that Modi is spending public Money in Media to post him as a good leader and developer but it is a Fake.
Re: Modi a fake face
by Indian on May 03, 2009 01:51 PM
Dear Chilly. I went to your house yesterday and found your dad licking the carpet clean and your mother tied at the door with a chain around her neck.
Do you believe what I wrote above? Similarly we don't believe what you posted. To know Modi's superiority over other leaders you ought to stay in Gujarat and experience the difference.
Re: Re: Modi a fake face
by pamsask on May 04, 2009 01:21 PM
Indian anyone can stay in Gujarat but the prob is the mass murdering Bharat Jalao Party does not allow you to LIVE. You need to LIVE to experience THE DIFFERENCE.
Hindutva wave cannot rise by showing hatred to chirstian. We all know majority of christians are much better human being than others.I dont know why we have so much hatred for christian. If you read the bible, its just a story book written in very interesting manner. U learn how to accept suffering for helping others. To serve others. Whats wrong in learning such lesson. Who knows whether jesus was son of god or ordniary saint.who cares. Learning to become better human being is all bible is about.
Re: Learning the lesson is important, not the source.
by JGN on May 03, 2009 01:27 PM
Bib1e is also full of hatred for others. Search for "The Skeptics Annotated Bib1e" for category-wise verses like Absurdities, Contradictions, Hatred, Good-stuff,etc from The Bible, The Koran and The Book of Mormon.
No Re1igion is better than the other. No Re1igion has ever stopped people from committing crimes.
Re: Re: Learning the lesson is important, not the source.
by dil jo on May 03, 2009 01:43 PM
Bhagavad Gita: I am exceedingly dear to the wise man; he also is dear to me. (Ch. VII. 17)
New Testament, Bible: He that loveth me shall be loved by my father and I will love him. (John XIV. 21)
Bhagavad Gita: I am the way, supporter, lord, witness, abode, refuge, friend. (Ch. IX. 18)
New Testament, Bible: I am the way the truth and the life. (John XIV. 6.)
I am the first and the last. (Rev. 1. 17)
Bhagavad Gita: I never depart from him, he never departs from me. (Ch. VI. 30)
New Testament, Bible: He dwelleth in me and I in Him. (John VI. 57)
Bhagavad Gita: They who worship me with true devotion are in me and I in them. (Ch. VI. 29)
New Testament, Bible: I in them, thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one. (John XVII. 23)
Bhagavad Gita: Be assured that he who worships me, perishes not. (Ch. IX. 31)
New Testament, Bible: He that believeth in me shall never perish, but shall have eternal life. (John III. 5)
Bhagavad Gita: I am the beginning and the middle and the end of things. (Ch. X. 20)
New Testament, Bible: I am Alpha, Omega, the beginning and the ending. (Rev. I. 8)
Bhagavad Gita: I will deliver thee from all sin; do not grieve. (Ch. XVIII. 66)
New Testament, Bible: Son, be of good cheer, thy sins be forgiven. (Matt. IX. 2)
Bhagavad Gita: What sacrifice, almsgiving, or austerity is done without faith is evil. (Ch. XVII. 28)
New Testament, Bible: Whatsoever is not of faith is sin. (Rom. XIV. 23)
Modi's development is only a propoganda. Gujarati people are good business men, what Gujarat producing today not because of Modi's government, this is the hard work of Gujarati people. 18% of Gujarati people working outside Gujarat in India and Overseas and they are remitting money to Gujarat, all these facts are the main reason of growth in Gujrart, the Modi govt. share is very less, his developmente is nothing but a propoganda, if he is developing his state then let him give the job to thousands of dimond workers who lost the jobs and they are unable to buy the food and Modi is talking about 12% economy growth so his govt. has millions of dollars let him help these people by opening new industreis and helping in their business. why don't he do that in his development propoganda !
BANGALORE: In a landmark judgment, 11 of the 23 persons convicted in the bomb attacks on churches in Bangalore, Gulbarga and Hubli in mid-2000, have been awarded death sentences.The special court headed by Justice S M Shivannagoudar in its order on Saturday also sentenced the other 12 to life imprisonment.
All the 23 are activists of the banned Deendar Anjuman outfit which seeks to make India an Islaamic state. They had carried out bomb blasts at churches in Wadi in Gulbarga, Keshavapura in Hubli and Jagjivanramnagar in Bangalore.
Re: No ''sickular'' media published this news!!!!!
by JGN on May 03, 2009 12:51 PM
Cont'd: They were also responsible for the explosion of a Maruti van near Minerva Mill on Magadi Road here around the time. The activists, in the van, were on their way to plant bombs at churches in other parts of the city when the bombs went off.
Two of the activists, Mohammad Zakir and Fida-ur- Rehaman died in the incident. The state police had filed four cases with respect to these attacks and framed charges against 39 people for waging a war against the country. The special court had last week convicted 23 persons and kept the sentence pending. Three of the 11 sentenced to death are from Bangalore: Mohammad Ibrahim, Abdul Rehaman Sait and Amanath Hussain Mulla; six are from Hyderabad: Sheikh Hasham Ali, Mohammad Sharfuddin, Mohammad Akhil Ahmed, Ijahar Baigh, Sayed Abbas Ali, Mohammad Khalid Choudhary.
Re: Re: No ''sickular'' media published this news!!!!!
by pamsask on May 04, 2009 01:26 PM
JGN these people learnt the art of destruction of houses of worship from the Pioneers in this field the mass murdering Bharat Jalao Party alongwith Sadhvi, Pragya, Purohit & their latest entrant Varun.
Re: No ''sickular'' media published this news!!!!!
by dil jo on May 03, 2009 01:24 PM
dear JGN u r at the wromg side bro,u itself know the truth..well which hindu organization is doin everything everything for free.can u deny the fact that the british build most the roads ,railways and bridges ,collages and hospitals,plantations ,hillstations ,well not denying that they have looted us,but we still use the stuffs build by them.JGN u always oppose everyone,but the hard fact no one is better than others.u mentioned abt abhaya case,it dsnt happnd with u'r godmans??why every time hindu swamijis are goin abroad?every time they have a crowd of whites with them???are they not gettin funds???they are not converting people in outside???well JGN i belong to an orthodox church n we dun do convertion or gettin any foreign aid..its been a long time since my forefathers are here..so u keep on abusing ,brother why this bjp and rss is not targetting believers church and its self styled bishop,bugger has got lots of money and no one will touch him....
Re: Re: No ''sickular'' media published this news!!!!!
by JGN on May 03, 2009 01:32 PM
Dear dil jo, I am not telling any one that H1nduism is the best Re1igion so every one has to convert to the same nor did I tell any one that all H1ndus are Saints. I really do not care for any Re1igion or those peddle spirituality in Wholesale or Retail. Such characters are number one crooks (irrespective of Re1igion).
The European colonizers were only interested in amassing wealth and transferring to their countries. What ever they had done was for the furtherance of their own interet (be it Railways or English Education for the natives).
Pl re_ad "Aisa and Western Dominance" by KM Panikkar, noted Historian and Diplomat, to know their real colour. You can try the web of "MultiVarsity" for a free copy.
Modi's development is only a propoganda. Gujarati people are good business men, what Gujarat producing today not because of Modi's government, this is the hard work of Gujarati people. 18% of Gujarati people working outside Gujarat in India and Overseas and they are remitting money to Gujarat, all these facts are the main reason of growth in Gujrart, the Modi govt. share is very less, his developmente is nothing but a propoganda, if he is developing his state then let him give the job to thousands of dimond workers who lost the jobs and they are unable to buy the food and Modi is talking about 12% economy growth so his govt. has millions of dollars let him help these people by opening new industreis and helping in their business. why don't he do that in his development propoganda !
The Chriistian missionary efforts in preaching the Gospel are hardly worthy of emulation. Ever since the appearance of Islaam on the world stage and the first sighting of tribes (or natives) of the New World, the crusade to convert the whole world to Christiianity was accompanied by the unholy means of deception, exploitation and persecution. The exploitation of the indigenous tribal people by the resource-hungry invaders called the Chriistian missionaries, has amounted to the persecution of the most ruthless and relentless kind, including the theft of the tribal land, the stripping of their forest in the name of 'development', the destruction of their cultures, and the wholesale enslavement of their populace. This enslavement continues without abatement by the evangelizing ambassadors of Chriistianity - the missionaries. In this document, we will be concerned with the deceptive tactics and exploitation used by the Chriistian missionaries when it came to preaching the 'gospel' to Musliims or the indigenous people. The detailed study of the issues like persecution of the indigenous tribal people can be found in specialized books on cultural anthropology which the reader can refer to in the libraries.
Re: Re: Conversion To Chriistianity: A Missionary Deception - SM
by JGN on May 03, 2009 12:44 PM
What is the difference between stones and plaster of paris? Do you think plaster of paris is better than sotones??
Re: Re: Conversion To Chriistianity: A Missionary Deception - SM
by JGN on May 03, 2009 12:55 PM
Worshipping stones is better than blowing up "in the cause of A11ah" for getting 72Vs without hooles and 28 boys in an imaginary life hereafter.
Re: Re: Re: Conversion To Chriistianity: A Missionary Deception -
by pamsask on May 04, 2009 01:28 PM
Practise what you preach JGN or did the mass murdering Bharat Jalao Party whose mouthpiece you are not teach you that.
Re: Conversion To Chriistianity: A Missionary Deception - SM Saif
by Vijaya Rao on May 03, 2009 01:13 PM
Dear JGN,
Thanks for writing.
But I’m afraid, they seem very extreme. Further, since I feel you are not unaware of those being so, I cannot hold your views in regards that I normally hold any honest thoughts.
1- Christianity just does not preach, teach or prescribe the ways of the crusaders.
2- No Christian defends the crusaders at all! On the contrary many Christians have often apologized for the wrongs of those so-called Christians, of about a thousand years back.
Therefore, to keep on mentioning crusades as a reason to blame Christians or Christianity are not really justified. I mean, if there was a practice of Sati in Hinduism, I don’t blame my grand-father, who fought it, for that practice- no one blames today’s Hindus for that (unless, of course, if somebody today supports the practice or suggests that the religion has prescribed it)!
Further, though it is not at all justified, the reason they started was a political, military one- to retrieve Jerusalem and the Holy Land from Muslim rule. They started in response to a call from the Byzantine Empire for help against the expansion of the Muslim Seljuk Turks into Anatolia. (I repeat this is not to say the reason was justified).
So, I request you, brother, to help the discussions maintain a good level of debate, please don’t divert it by mentioning things that are not relevant given the above.
Re: Re: Conversion To Chriistianity: A Missionary Deception - SM
by JGN on May 03, 2009 01:20 PM
Dear Vijaya Rao, in our Country we have the freedom to follow any Re1igion, worship any g0d and also to remain irre1igious atheist. If your Re1igion is good for you, practice that. Nobody has any objection but I expect the Missionary begg*ars to stop befooling the dalits/tribals of MP and Orsissa in the name of non-existent g0ds and heaven. Which "Doctor" has told them that conversion is a precondition for helping the poor??
What ever happens to you after death will happen to me also (irrespective of my belief in some g0d or Re1igion). Nobody has come back after death to tell us the stories in haven/hell. The fun-filled Paradise existed only in the fertile imagination of some sur-realistic visionaries.
Re: Re: Re: Conversion To Chriistianity: A Missionary Deception -
by Vijaya Rao on May 03, 2009 01:25 PM
Dear brother JGN,
My request to you was ENTIRELY related to your mention of "Crusades". And your response to it has no connection to that, at all!
I'm sorry, but this is frustrating- I don't use the word in a negative way, you know it.
Further, you have- if I am not wrong- already written what you just repeated without its being connected. Maybe you are pressed for time. But I would request you to please read my post and please respond to the specific thoughts in it.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Conversion To Chriistianity: A Missionary Decepti
by JGN on May 03, 2009 02:16 PM
Dear Vijaya Rao, just go to the web of Byzantine Catholic Church and understand what they are telling. They are even praising Joseph Stalin for anihilation of Mus1ims and stopping the spread of 1slam in Europe. I had come across a reference to "Hagia Sophia" in "The Witch of Portebello" and I wanted to know what exactly it is. The web search led me to Byzantine Catholic Church's site.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Conversion To Chriistianity: A Missionary Dec
by pamsask on May 04, 2009 01:33 PM
But JGN you are still talking about the Crusades which happened 100s of yrs ago in far away Europe betwn some stupid christians & some stupid muslims. What has that got to do with India. Not to mention the fact that the Pope today does not even support the Crusades.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Conversion To Chriistianity: A Missionary Dec
by JGN on May 04, 2009 04:54 PM
Pope does not support crucades but he still wants to harvest the souls!!!
women and girls of Mangalore do not want to face rapes,riots and violence from Jihadi thugs. ALso they are well aware of missionary intenetions. There were many rape and murder vicitms of Jihadi thugs when CONgress was ruling. These girls did not get justice from the govt.. So they will not vote for CONgress which always supported jihaid criminals and missionary agents instead of poor victims. Pujari has already lost many times there..
Re: No more congress in Mangalore
by JGN on May 03, 2009 12:15 PM
These guys are more worried about one pub in Mangalore. What action had the Congi Govt in Maharashtra taken against Raj Thackeray for attacking the migrant workers from UP and Bihar? Do they think going to pubs is more important than the "dal-roti" of thousands of migrant workers?
Re: Re: No more congress in Mangalore
by pamsask on May 04, 2009 01:38 PM
FYI JGN its the mass murdering Bharat Jalao Party that has joined hands with their twins the SS in Maharashtra in respect of the elections. Also todays TOI has an article on Raj Thackeray where he says he supports Modi as PM. It is not the Congress but the Bharat Jalao Party who are responsible for the murders of 1000s of innocent Indians. Infact Congress has made it very clear from day one that they are not going to support any communal hate politics or political parties or political leaders.
Re: Re: Re: No more congress in Mangalore
by JGN on May 04, 2009 04:55 PM
pamasak, BJP cannot match the record of Congress party. They ki11ed more people in just one riot (anti-Sikh riots) of 1984 than all deaths caused by BJP in its existence.
Re: Re: No more congress in Mangalore
by JGN on May 03, 2009 12:46 PM
sameer, you ar right. You people are the products of ra*pe by the 1nvaders! Can you imagine the pain your ancestors had undergone when they were forced to spread their legs for the invaders?? However all h1ndus were not cowards like your acestors.
After BJP coming into power in Karnatak, people are not safe, Saffron goons are on the roads to disrupt the safety and security of people, these saffroness are terrorising like Taliban in Afghanistan. We all know about Mangalore prob. There are many churches destroyed, to communalise they printed pamphlets and taged to christians as their machinery work. People are really looking a change and Congress is becoming power in southern Karnatak and in Northern Karnatak JDS is becoming stronger so there is no chance to BJP in Karnatak in this election. Advani must stop dreaming to become Priminister, this is my good advise to Mr. Advani.
Re: Karnataka state
by JGN on May 03, 2009 12:13 PM
First Published : 30 Nov 2008 04:25:00 AM IST Last Updated : 30 Nov 2008 10:44:51 AM IST BANGALORE: In a landmark judgment, 11 of the 23 persons convicted in the bomb attacks on churches in Bangalore, Gulbarga and Hubli in mid-2000, have been awarded death sentences.The special court headed by Justice S M Shivannagoudar in its order on Saturday also sentenced the other 12 to life imprisonment. All the 23 are activists of the banned Deendar Anjuman outfit which seeks to make India an Islaamic state. They had carried out bomb blasts at churches in Wadi in Gulbarga, Keshavapura in Hubli and Jagjivanramnagar in Bangalore. ---------------- These events took place long before BJP came to power in Karnataka!!!!!
Re: Re: Karnataka state
by chilly on May 03, 2009 12:36 PM
JGN I am talking about after BJP's entry into power in Karnatak, and why don't you describe after their entry ?
Re: Re: Re: Karnataka state
by JGN on May 03, 2009 12:47 PM
What about the events before that? Are you telling us that Karnataka was a "heaven" under the Congis??
Re: Re: Re: Re: Karnataka state
by pamsask on May 04, 2009 01:41 PM
Noone is saying that Karnataka was heaven JGN but before the mass murdering Bharat Jalao Party Karnataka was no hell either which it feels like now.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Karnataka state
by pamsask on May 04, 2009 01:39 PM
100% literacy blows the lid of your lies. But then what can anyone expect from the mouth piece of the mass murdering Bharat Jalao Party.
