Re: dirty communist
by mukti bhagat on Mar 23, 2009 07:01 PM
Mr. Dey come up with facts and figures. Nobody wants your hear your hollow speech. Read up something and come and post.
Re: Re: dirty communist
by LaX Ray on Mar 23, 2009 07:12 PM
Here are some facts .... Things are not so simple. Its not simple equation 2 2=4. I dont know where u are from, but the ground reality is much different and complex. Think of a scenario where there is a village. A industrialist comes and asks the ruling party for a large portion of the land. The ruling party divides the land in a cunning way so that their supporters land falls in one side and the neutral and opposition supporters' land falls within the land to be acquired. Then compensation is provided and the cost of the neighbouring land (owned by party cadres) increases 6 times, who will tolerate. And lets also not forget the huge loan given to the industrialist in little interest(almost nil) and almost zero cost of land. All these are not so simple Mr Biplab. I do not know if Mamta calculated all these, and my guess is she didnt, but still you cannot underestimate the misdeed of the ruling party by playing cunning cards to gain profit for its men at cost of others. Common men cannot tolerate all these for long and protested, Mamta just took advantage of that protest and harvested benefits, any politician would have done that. After all taking advantage of all these were taught to bengalis by the great party who is ruling now... remember 16 trams burnt for 1 paisa rise in fare. Everything pays back, so they are harvesting what they have sown.
Re: Re: Re: dirty communist
by Biplab on Mar 23, 2009 07:23 PM
Lax, I read so many times your stupid blog. You please tell me out of 13000 farmers 11000 took compensation, Mamata gave 825 farmers name as so called unwilling farmers and rest can not take money due to legal problem. You are so brainless that is why you are giving theory of dividing land. Earlier CPM MLA of Singur was in Tata project site, he gave land, please try to get this information, so many rulling party supporters have land there and maximum of them gave land, rest CPM farmers joined Trinmul to get back land, similarly so many Trinmul supporters gave land and after that they are coming to Mamata´s procession. This is the reality. I think you are outsider, don´t know real fact. Do you think those farmers who are agitating will cultivate there, No way, they will sale land 25 to 30 times more price and some leaders will get deal also. This is the reason. In that adjoining areas so many private industries are there, farmers gave land. I can not support your stupid idea, you can tell this idea to that mad lady Mamata. By the way, Mamata did some new rail lines in Bengal, that are on fertile land, nobody opposed, there was very less compensation. That time where are you?
Re: Re: Re: Re: dirty communist
by LaX Ray on Mar 23, 2009 07:31 PM
Only few requests to you...yeah, i am stupid, thats what is told to anyone in WB who opposes the ruler...just like Halla's King...Lets get back to the point... 1. GO to any village and see how many villagers have courage to say NO to any option which the noble party has asked to say yes to. 2.MLA...land :-) good joke... we all know how much todays politicians are dependent on agri land. 3. I am not aware of the fact of how much "fertile land" was "forcefully taken" for railways...anyway I am never a big supporter of Mamta, but it does not matter. 4. For your kind information, I am NOT and outsider, but I am surely NOT a person from Calcutta. I have lived in one of the most rural part of bengal, and I know the hard facts how the villagers have to compromise .... people like you sitting in HIG, MIG apartmnts of south calcutta will not know that.... No Bazar or No Shakti publishes the appropriate picture..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: dirty communist
by LaX Ray on Mar 23, 2009 09:26 PM
Biplab, no one lost. I do not read the newspaper you mentioned. But one notable difference is how you quickly concluded me as stupid. Thats what has been taught in your meetings. Those who oppose us are fools. Its web so you are calling me stupid, if it was front to front conversation, I would have been attacked by now. And @Mukti Bhagat...u need figures? 14th March, Nandi Gram ...will give you nice figures...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: dirty communist
by mukti bhagat on Mar 23, 2009 07:39 PM
When I said facts and figures I meant facts and fugures. But you didn't. You are making a generalised statement without giving any details.
Industries need to come to WB, and land is needed. Compensation given was the highest among the other states.
How do you think industries can come to WB?
Do you think compensation given was less compared to other states?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: dirty communist
by Biplab on Mar 23, 2009 08:00 PM
Lax I am from a village in Purba Medinipur, I know the fact. Former CPM MLA Bidyut Das has land there, he gave, you can ask anybody in Singur Nobody opposed land acquisition for railline, so there is no question for forcefully taken land. Because that time there was no concept of willing and unwilling farmers. If tomorrow Mamata becomes railway minister and tries to acquire land for rail line, you will see the dance. I am in such a position I can read all newspapers from Bartaman to Ganashakti, not like you (only read Bartaman). By the way if 11000 farmers gave land out of 13000 is it forcefully land acquisition? Then you ca not do anything anywhere. Please see new land acquisition policy. Today Nano lunched. Lax, who lost? Could you please tell me?
Re: Re: dirty communist
by LaX Ray on Mar 23, 2009 07:11 PM
Things are not so simple. Its not simple equation 2 2=4. I dont know where u are from, but the ground reality is much different and complex. Think of a scenario where there is a village. A industrialist comes and asks the ruling party for a large portion of the land. The ruling party divides the land in a cunning way so that their supporters land falls in one side and the neutral and opposition supporters' land falls within the land to be acquired. Then compensation is provided and the cost of the neighbouring land (owned by party cadres) increases 6 times, who will tolerate. And lets also not forget the huge loan given to the industrialist in little interest(almost nil) and almost zero cost of land. All these are not so simple Mr Biplab. I do not know if Mamta calculated all these, and my guess is she didnt, but still you cannot underestimate the misdeed of the ruling party by playing cunning cards to gain profit for its men at cost of others. Common men cannot tolerate all these for long and protested, Mamta just took advantage of that protest and harvested benefits, any politician would have done that. After all taking advantage of all these were taught to bengalis by the great party who is ruling now... remember 16 trams burnt for 1 paisa rise in fare. Everything pays back, so they are harvesting what they have sown.
Re: Re: Re: dirty communist
by JGN on Mar 23, 2009 08:15 PM
LaX Ray, people of WB still remembers the "black days" of Mr. S S Ray and it is very difficult for the Congress party to gain any foothold in WB despite the hystrionics of Ms. Mamata Banerjee.
Third Front will break post elections They dont have any common agenda which will bind them together Parties will support Congress lead coalition Govt.
Re: Third Front will break post elections
by LaX Ray on Mar 23, 2009 07:15 PM
They do have a common agenda...left has always a great agenda..... its to have the key to power but not take any responsibility. Blackmail the govt with few seats from WB and Kerala and take entire country into ransom. They are scared this time as they know tough time is ahead in WB and Kerala. Nandigram, Singur in WB and internal fights and corruption charges in Kerala have forced them to lure other regional leaders.
Re: Third Front will break post elections
by mukti bhagat on Mar 23, 2009 07:04 PM
Congress could give outside support to third front. Mr. Prakash, what happened in bihar, and jharkhand? How many seats will your party get?
Agricultural Land-63% Forest-12% Urban and Industrial area-22% Barren land-3% After open policy in 1991, lot of investments are coming up and it got huge momentum when Buddhadev Bhattacharjee. So where will be industry? Govt. has to acquire farm land. West Bengal has 1 cr 35 lakh acre farm land. Govt. needs only 1 lakh acre land for new industrial projects. In Singur, Govt gave 18 lakh per acre that is one of the highest compensations in the country.And Mamata comes here to provoke farmers not to give land. Out of 13000 farmers, 11000 took compensation, but Mamata kicked Tata. Who lost? I want to ask this useless Partha Chaterjee
Re: West Bengal Geographical situation
by LaX Ray on Mar 23, 2009 07:10 PM
Dear Biplab, Things are not so simple. Its not simple equation 2 2=4. I dont know where u are from, but the ground reality is much different and complex. Think of a scenario where there is a village. A industrialist comes and asks the ruling party for a large portion of the land. The ruling party divides the land in a cunning way so that their supporters land falls in one side and the neutral and opposition supporters' land falls within the land to be acquired. Then compensation is provided and the cost of the neighbouring land (owned by party cadres) increases 6 times, who will tolerate. And lets also not forget the huge loan given to the industrialist in little interest(almost nil) and almost zero cost of land. All these are not so simple Mr Biplab. I do not know if Mamta calculated all these, and my guess is she didnt, but still you cannot underestimate the misdeed of the ruling party by playing cunning cards to gain profit for its men at cost of others. Common men cannot tolerate all these for long and protested, Mamta just took advantage of that protest and harvested benefits, any politician would have done that. After all taking advantage of all these were taught to bengalis by the great party who is ruling now... remember 16 trams burnt for 1 paisa rise in fare. Everything pays back, so they are harvesting what they have sown.
Re: West Bengal Geographical situation
by BHUPENDRA PATEL on Mar 23, 2009 11:17 PM
to Biplab w.bengal has 63% agri land then it should have panjab like green revolution instead W.Bengal has maoist bloody revolution.the communist goverment in bengal for last 30 year what is achievement, nothing zip, zero zilch.
West Bengal is in top position in production in rice, vegetables, fish in the country and second in potatao. Last financial year it has produced 150 lakh metric ton rice and 120 lakh metric ton vegetables.It is in third position in per hectre agricultural production in the country, after Punjub and Haryana. Kolkata region in third position in country?s total GDP, after Mumbai and Delhi region. Among country?s top 10 fastest growing regions West Bengal has two regions (Kolkata and Durgapur-Asansole) Though it has has several problems like other states but it is not like such kind of state like Maharastra where one side industry and other side farmers are committing suicide daily. It got second highest investment in 2007, after Gujrat. In last 6-7 years Bengal sees huge amount of investments in several sectors like IT, steel, agro products, manufacturing industry like motor car, bike, auto component, shipyard, wagon, railway coach etc, real estate, retail etc. In last year it got 1 lakh cr investment proposal in steel sector only which is third highest in country after Orissa and Jharkhand. One by one projects of Jindal, Videocon, Jai balaji and others are coming up.
Re: What is development
by shashi kadapa on Mar 23, 2009 06:23 PM
Actaully they were coming beacuse of the Tata plant. Now that Nano has moved out to Guj, all investments in WB have dried up. You people are still the largest producers of vegetables, milk and cows like Mamba (Mamta Banerjee). So keep up the good deeds and increase the green cover in WB.
Re: Re: What is development
by Biplab on Mar 23, 2009 06:32 PM
You are wrong. Tata left and still investments are coming and it will be going on. actually Buddhadev opened up the cork of a big bottle.
Re: Re: Re: What is development
by shashi kadapa on Mar 23, 2009 06:56 PM
I agree that Comrade Buddha did open WB to a FDIs and also opened the bottle for investment. But infortunatley, Mamba has pi s s ed in it.
Re: Re: Re: What is development
by LaX Ray on Mar 23, 2009 07:22 PM
its the same bottle which was always open and Great CMs party forcefully covered it with a cork for 30 years.... no computers, cholchhe na cholbe na.... burn trams... unions....close jute mills....dunlop.... visit the old industrial areas...bengal chemicals.... so many i can name....braithwaite ...all jewels of one time ...now in ruins.... suddenly the party gets divine knowledge and starts dividing land by party colors to be handed over to industrialists.... not so easy dear.... an old saying says "you reap as you sow"
Nice going Mamba! Hope you get the majority of seats and defeat CPM. Then you can close down all factories and BPO in WB and force them to other states to increase the job opportunities.
WB can then become a state for farmers and fishermen and it can only sell Macchi Fry!
Beware of Indians. They know to use you,divide you in the name of east-west,caste-creed,ghoti-bangal. They informed to british about Khudiram Bose,Netji and many Bengalees. Bengal suffered from famine due to them. Their jelousy and black conspiracy broke Bengal in to two parts and now they are torturing on us all over the country. Those foolish commis are of no use. BJP has very ugly thought against all Bengalis, be it east or west.
Re: Kalo mukho satan
by Money tvs on Mar 23, 2009 06:26 PM
I coule not get get what you are raving about. Correct me if I am wrong... you are one very confused soul buddy
