Manmohan Singh to obama - We are sending Indians to the moon next year. obama- Wow! How Many? Manmohan Singh - 100 25 - OBC 25 - SC 20 - ST 5 - Handicapped 5 - Sports Persons 5 - Terrorist Affected 5 - Kashmiri Migrants 9 - Politicians and if possible 1 - Astronnat
Re: act
by RAJAVARMAN on Mar 21, 2009 04:18 PM
First we should send a pujari to conduct a Bhoomipuja there in moon to mark our success in moonwalk. Then we should build a temple or mosque or a church to create trouble in moon to mark the presence of our Indians
Allowing organised retail in India is the biggest mistake ever done by Dr.MMS. Large corporations like reliance group & International retail chain like WalMart are now spearheading their heads in the country. What is the benefits of organised retail in INDIA is a silly question, it gives larger corporations and multinationals an opportunity to harass ‘aam admi’ & make him more poor & poor and generate themselves a lot of money at the cost of ‘aam admi’ & only at the rate of 0.6% to 1.8% net profit on total sales, when there are other businesses in existance which can generate them more revenues. The disadvantage is that the persons employed in retail approximately 4 crores of shopowners & 17-19 crores of their employees will register with employment exchanges in future as nonvacant candidates. The another disadvantage is that about farmers. They now get better prices from multinationals than current retailers, but when the current retailers will disappear from screen, these multinationals unite themselves & form cartels & suppress for cost reduction. In detail, salary in the case of employees of organised retail ;farmer in the case of their produce & same is the thing with the other amenities like day-to-day living instruments like appliances and other products for Small & Medium scale Enterprises. What is the benefit of customer, most of them after approx. 2-5 years later have no earnings greater than now by loosing their businesses & vacancies & in
Re: ECONOMIC POLICIES OF CONGRESS
by murli nair on Mar 21, 2009 03:57 PM
actually these supermarkets will protect the ordinary customer from arbitrary pricing, bad goods and the govt will also get sales tax honestly. these will go against the interests of banias selling shoddy goods, bullying customers, cheating the govt. by pocketing sales tax and refusing to issue receipts so naturally they are angry.
Re: Re: ECONOMIC POLICIES OF CONGRESS
by Jai Babu on Mar 21, 2009 04:14 PM
Very well said Murli Nair. The biggest manipulators of foodstuf-Grains, vegetables and fruits are the middlemen & traders. The poor farmers of India with their fractured land holdings put in immennse effort and are at the mercy of the elements and later these middlemen. Rural Credit reach is also minimal. On the other hand, organised retail chains can provide easier credit through farmers cooperatives, encourage collective farming, use of fertilizers, help provide credit through buyback agrements, insurance related services, etc. Also by eliminating the chain of middlemen and traders and building direct supply chains from the fields till the retail shelves, the bigger retail chains will also provide employment opportunities, prevent adulteration, standardize packaging & weight and help the farmers. It is really stupid to oppose organized retail.
Re: ECONOMIC POLICIES OF CONGRESS
by Ramesh on Mar 21, 2009 07:14 PM
Both Rural sector and Manufacturing sector can grow much faster with modern retailing. Retailing needs steady high volume supplies of standardized quality goods to meet consumer demand. This will generate/facilitate necessary inputs in "pipeline infrastructure" which would include cold storage, transport, packaging, quality inspection, agro-processing, etc... Farm producers would gain from steady and predictable prices. Most important they will have incentive to produce more and not worry about consequent fall in price due to higher production.
It will also be enabler of scientific knowledge input to farmers to improve their farming, and bring newer instruments of financing and insurance with predictable contracted offtake.
Retailing would provide the woefully short expertise of vendor development to tens of thousands of SME segment industries to make exportable products.
China's manufacturing power status is linked to their decision to open up to modern retailing. For Indian SME sector to become world-class, opening up retail is the only policy available. In India's case our agriculture and horticulture also would be able to immensely improve productivity and quality of produce.
The disruption is the antiquated shops and retail sector is not something to be worried about; but seen as a necessity to improve the long term wellbeing of people in villages, towns and cities.
Re: Re: ECONOMIC POLICIES OF CONGRESS
by Ramesh on Mar 21, 2009 07:28 PM
Udayraj,
Contrary to your estimates about employment loss, higher productivty and quality will lead to increase income and economic capacity to sustain much larger job market overall.
These jobs would be of higher wage levels and need more educated workforce.
Re: Re: Re: ECONOMIC POLICIES OF CONGRESS
by Ramesh on Mar 21, 2009 07:36 PM
Perhaps BJP is better placed to usher Retail revolution in India as its traditional small traders constituency can better comprehend the likely impact and participate in political co-option by seeking franchise opportunities and other spin off gains.
Sunil Mittal & Wal Mart, the biggest organisation in world by revenue of US$ 378 Billion, are tying together for organised retail initiative under Bharti's leadership. This joint venture is going to produce 2 million jobs in organised retail compared to job loss of 40 million across India. So best of luck to Mr. Mittal & govts. who are obeying to large businessmen for creating more & more poor people. Why Indian Govt. is not publishing jobs data each month/ each quarter, like USA? Indian Govt. should have to publish, so that Indian people will understand what is better for them. In USA, there was recession in 1985. Walton, the CMD of Wal-Mart had launched the campaign of MADE IN USA. Both the Wal Mart & suppliers of WALMART are agreeing about the cost & price cutting. But, afterwards Walton bought goods from outside USA & labelled them as MADE IN USA for cheaper input costs. How much margin organised retailers get? 3%-Wall Mart & 1.5%-Pantaloon Retail. What are the impacts of organised retail chains on cities other than metros? Dr. MMS had implemented organised retail under the pressure of powerful economies. Decision of organised retail is not Manmohaneconomics, but the keen desire of western countries to support their companies. WalMart is total failure in USA regarding social issues. Unorganised retailers had shut shops long ago. In small towns only malls are there. India has 125 Crs population. Unemployment will icrease heavily due to ORGANISED RETAILERS & their cartels.
Re: WHY JOBS DATA IS NOT BEING PUBLISHED BY INDIAN GOVERNMENTS ?
by murli nair on Mar 21, 2009 03:58 PM
actually these supermarkets will protect the ordinary customer from arbitrary pricing, bad goods and the govt will also get sales tax honestly. these will go against the interests of banias selling shoddy goods, bullying customers, cheating the govt. by pocketing sales tax and refusing to issue receipts so naturally they are angry
Re: WHY JOBS DATA IS NOT BEING PUBLISHED BY INDIAN GOVERNMENTS ?
by Jai Babu on Mar 21, 2009 04:17 PM
The biggest manipulators of prices & availabilty of foodstuff -Grains, vegetables and fruits are the middlemen & traders. The poor farmers of India with their fractured land holdings put in immennse effort and are at the mercy of the elements and later these middlemen. Rural Credit reach is also minimal. On the other hand, organised retail chains can provide easier credit through farmers cooperatives, encourage collective farming, use of fertilizers, help provide credit through buyback agrements, insurance related services, etc. Also by eliminating the chain of middlemen and traders and building direct supply chains from the fields till the retail shelves, the bigger retail chains will also provide employment opportunities, prevent adulteration, standardize packaging & weight and help the farmers. It is really stupid to oppose organized retail. All these years, the TRADING COMMUNITY cartels have looted both the farmers as well as the consumers!
Re: WHY JOBS DATA IS NOT BEING PUBLISHED BY INDIAN GOVERNMENTS ?
by pratap tiwary on Mar 22, 2009 07:50 AM
Walmart model is not for India. While I agree the Govt needs to tighten the noose around the banias who evade taxes and supply substandard goods. I dont agree that having organised retail sits well with our socialistic agenda. Right now someone with a capital of 2 lac rupees can start a shop and earn a living for himself and his family, with walmarts coming into place that will become a dream. Indians needs to foster entrepreneurship and not follow wage slavery and neo-colonialism. Political parties have no sense of nationality, they will take money from these big players and pass any law.
I think bjp started its campaign in karnataka basically because of the fact that karnataka has elected bjp in assembly elections and they want to bolster their position...Other parties just followed since they are in fear of losing out seats in karnataka... And i think bjp at any day will definitely be better than congress since congress is ideologically very shallow in last two decades or so and bjp still has very strong nationalistic fundamentals... Whatever others say , I felt bjp always has promised a equal governance to all citizens.It was congress which promoted casteism after independence and still promoting it...I think it is important for bjp to win this national poll for india's progress to proceed in a smooth manner....
In the almost 5 years of UPA tenure at the Centre, Karnataka has hardly got much from them. The benefit from the Railways has been dismal. The present Railway Budget has not even given Karnataka even a customary benefit. It is a pity that the Congress MPs have all been quite about this.
Re: Why all parties begin campaigning from Karnataka
by Ajay Acharya on Mar 21, 2009 04:54 PM
Dear Hebbar, Also don't forget how ministers like Dayanidhi Maran robbed Karnataka of its investments and took away major projects like Nokia, Flextronics to Chennai and diverted SemiCon to Hyderabad. How many road widening projects in railway areas were delayed and also how many National Highways were not paid attention. They also delayed launch of the Bangalore Airport to enable Hyderabad inaugurate it before Bangalore. It took a BJP government to assume office and then accelerate projects like the Metro, connectivity to Airport, enhanced public transport and also the road widening.
Bangalore may be IT capital of India and Karnataka but Hubli is the nerves of karnataka .. thts y it is a vibrating city .... BJP has a strong force in north karnataka and Hubli is its heart .. I want Advaniji to start his campaign from Hubli itself
Re: Where there are pol-fools, politicians will also be there fir
by Shivanand Patil on Mar 21, 2009 01:24 PM
First learn National Language till that you remain as fool.
Re: Re: Where there are pol-fools, politicians will also be there
by Tamilan on Mar 21, 2009 02:06 PM
Our National language is tamil, I know it better than anyother language.
Re: Re: Where there are pol-fools, politicians will also be there
by murli nair on Mar 21, 2009 04:01 PM
Do we have a 'National Language' ? Hindi is an imposed language spoken only by 1/3 of the country. Only fanatics will scream for 'national languages' Civilized people will rejoice in diversity.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Where there are pol-fools, politicians will also
by Jai Babu on Mar 21, 2009 04:29 PM
@Ritesh-You are wrong. The Devanagiri script and the Hindi language is alient to South India and the EASt as well as North East. The South Indian languages are older and more advance Dravidian languages with a rich treasure trove of lierature, poetry and scriptures. Same is the case with Bengali and Assamese. The people have pride in their indigenous language and do not feel comfortable in Hindi. English is already there as a LINk language. And yes, the minute any of these people migrate to the northern part of the country, they do learn to communicate in Hindi. We need to rejoice in the diversity of languages we have and not impose anything forefully. That is precisely what we learnt in the history books about India's unity in diversity! Ritesh & Shivand Patil-Tke a chill pill!
