So many nuns die in seminaries in Kerala. Some are suicides, some are homicides. But police do not take much action.
But somebody gets affected in Orissa. It bcomes a big news. Why is that chr1stian brothers get emotional when bad things happen at the hands of others. When their own church fathers do it, it is tolerated.
Re: Tolerance
by Bharat Vasi on Apr 27, 2009 11:35 AM
Tamilian.... No all that has to be forgotten in SECULAR BROTHER HOOD. IMO, we h1ndus must be focussed, first let the Musl1ms explain all the Communal Violence in India since 1947. They must explain why do they forget all those and remember only 2002. They justify all other violence, I justify 2002 as a Mass Uprising. 2 Crore people were on the streets of Gujarat and the other 3 crores supported this uprising. Musl1ms were taught a thorough lesson in 2002.
Re: Tolerance
by roopesh raghavan on Apr 27, 2009 11:40 AM
It is a Home Affair. You know in Marad (Ker@al@) R!ot 9 H!ndus got K!iiled and M!nority C@su@alty only One. But no boady talks about this
Re: Tolerance
by Tulika Chatterjee on Apr 27, 2009 11:33 AM
Exactly. One riot and they are posting messages on every forum. Associating that incident to whatever topic or post they might feel like, associating BJP and all Heendus to Orissa. Blatant portrayal of their ethics and loyalty. As if they want Vatican to come and interfere - only then they will have peace. Or probably seeing a Catholic PM. Till then nothing else matters, development, security or patriotism. Fanatics are there in Heenduism also, but what good is it going to be on brooding over these incidents?
Around 10000 temples were destroyed by arab invaders. What is the big problem in rebuilding one of the temples and laying foundation for new era of communal harmony in India for the first time by mozlems?
Can you show me anywhere in this world a minority mob burning the majority pilgrims including women and children. I am sure that particular minority community wud have been wiped off. There was a reaction and in the riots 250 hendoos and some 700 mozlems died. In police firing, 80 hendoos died in gujarat. Still Modi is a culprit for you guys?
Re: Why is that secularism is only for hendoos?
by Falcon on Apr 27, 2009 11:29 AM
Beig one a responsible position MODI allowed to continue genocide.....
BJP acted as official sponsors of terror providing political cover to the H1ndu fanatics and keeping the police at bay. The fanatics in turn provide political momentum to the H1ndu nationalist
Clearly what happened in Gujarat is a kind of state sponsored terrorism...
Re: Re: Why is that secularism is only for hendoos?
by true tamilan on Apr 27, 2009 11:31 AM
Only genocide that happened in India is 1984 anti sikh riots. None of the congress leaders got killed, 3500 sikhs killed.
Leftist and congressi channels wud have u believe that post godhra riot was pre organized and everything. Why the heck wud 250 Hendoos die? Why wud 80 hendoos die in police firing? Why was army called in within 1 day of rioting staring?
Re: Re: Why is that secularism is only for hendoos?
by Tulika Chatterjee on Apr 27, 2009 11:35 AM
But why is the burning of Kar sevaks so insignificant? Now some people are going to such lengths as to associate that to Heendus. What cheap fanatical deductions are we witnessing here?
Re: Re: Why is that secularism is only for hendoos?
by Imran on Apr 27, 2009 11:31 AM
True tamilian if u had any sense u wouldn’t ask this question its like police catching u for a crime commited by ur great grandfathers long back
Re: Re: Re: Why is that secularism is only for hendoos?
by Tulika Chatterjee on Apr 27, 2009 11:37 AM
And if you had any sense you would have admitted that the burning of innocent people led to riots and thats all there is to it. Instead of throwing vile accusations around.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Why is that secularism is only for hendoos?
by Imran on Apr 27, 2009 11:56 AM
Tulika my point is the govt supported the genocide that’s it and u also know it but hr h@te makes u blind shame on ur education
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why is that secularism is only for hendoos?
by Tulika Chatterjee on Apr 27, 2009 12:07 PM
Imran who is supporting what? Dont we have to move past that? Cant we also talk about killings in response? My point is you are copy pasting messages again and again. We all know Gujarat was a terrible incident. If you can prove Modi;s guilt and put him in jail do that. I dont care. But you are also saying that the Kar Sevaks were burnt by Heendus and thats something I refuse to believe unless you can prove it.
Most of the gruesome stories about the riots have already been proved wrong. Remember that before accusing blindly
Re: Re: Re: Why is that secularism is only for hendoos?
by true tamilan on Apr 27, 2009 11:36 AM
nobody is asking for all of them to be reconstructed. Hendoos just want 3 which are very important for them. One of them is ayodhya.
Re: Re: Re: Why is that secularism is only for hendoos?
by Tulika Chatterjee on Apr 27, 2009 11:37 AM
And if you had any sense you would have admitted that the burning of innocent people led to riots and thats all there is to it. Instead of throwing vile accusations around.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Why is that secularism is only for hendoos?
by Falcon on Apr 27, 2009 11:40 AM
Why you guys failed to understand that it was BJP's conspiracy to gain the political power....
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why is that secularism is only for hendoos?
by Tulika Chatterjee on Apr 27, 2009 12:00 PM
Because I am tired of false conspiracy theories. One segment will never admit any mistake and expect everyone else to bear with them.
Re: Re: Re: Why is that secularism is only for hendoos?
by true tamilan on Apr 27, 2009 11:34 AM
I dont get ur point. Hendoos did not ask for 10000 masjids to be destroyed.
They just wanted to get back one site which is holy for them. That too namaz was not offered in babri masjid for a long time. It was dilipitated structure.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Why is that secularism is only for hendoos?
by Imran on Apr 27, 2009 11:58 AM
Its people like u who are real dangers bcoz they are so easily fo@led by parties like bjp who used ram to get to power
Re: Re: Why is that secularism is only for hendoos?
by Bharat Vasi on Apr 27, 2009 11:32 AM
Falcon... First apologize for the communal violence in India since 1947. Explain why dint Musl1ms dint protest the ETHNIC CLEANSING OF Kash. Pandits in J & K in 1989. If you cant explain, then you have no right EVEN TO VOTE.
Re: Re: Re: Why is that secularism is only for hendoos?
by Falcon on Apr 27, 2009 11:35 AM
Reality is different to the perception... Its just media hype portraying the wrong picture of kash pandits... Menawhile they failed to expose our army men's attorcities committed on innocent kashmiris....
Re: Re: Re: Re: Why is that secularism is only for hendoos?
by Bharat Vasi on Apr 27, 2009 11:40 AM
Falcon... Re. The Kash. Pandits, I have seen it with my own eyes, so dont argue. The media's role in 2002 is also evident. I know what the LOCAL'S TALK, THE GROUND LEVEL TALKS. If the Locals justify it, for me it is the central truth. You know what the SC appointed SIT had to say about 50% of the cases filed. 2002 was an uprising, one that was long over due.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Why is that secularism is only for hendoos?
by Tulika Chatterjee on Apr 27, 2009 11:38 AM
But why is the burning of Kar sevaks so insignificant? Now some people are going to such lengths as to associate that to Heendus. What cheap fanatical deductions are we witnessing here?
Will we continue to fight as Hindus and Muslims and takle pride in taking up past deeds of politicians and our or their fore fore fathers or will we stand up and fight as Indians. If you really want to fight then fight poverty, fight unemployment, fight with corruption and biggest of all fight with your own greed to show your supremacy. I believe that India is a great nation and we can prove that to the world once we start looking forward collectively.
Re: why are mandirs made everywhere just to grab land
by Nitin Dutt on Apr 27, 2009 11:28 AM
You are absolutely correct. These mandirs and so called God men are becoming an pain in neck with their stupid appereances. We have forgotten all about god and what message was given in Gita and Ramayana but we will make mandirs to show that we know all. We are becoming pseudo Hindu's. Whenever something wrrong happens we rush to atemple or a siddh purush or mataji or whatever, we have been caught in a web of deceit. But wait there will be another fanatic idiot who without understanding the content of our messages will start abusing both of us.
Re: Indians need to grow up
by aryoday mahajan on Apr 27, 2009 11:29 AM
Indians did not throw shoe on Indian but on corrupt politicians (I think we should not count the bloody politicians as Indians) and instead of throwing shoe at them, we should throw them out of the nation.
Re: Re: Indians need to grow up
by roopesh raghavan on Apr 27, 2009 11:35 AM
I think thowing shoes on our PM have any justification. Its all media influance who makes mocry of small incidents and making them BIGGGGGG
It looks as if the segregation based Indian democracy can work properly only if BJP use violence. Look at the situation in India now………..
Advani whose BJP had ONLT TWO MP SEATS in the Indian Parliament, became the rulers of India by increasing the number of MP seats to about 180, after demolishing 460 year old Babri Masjid on the most unconvincing pretext that the H1ndu god Rama was born on the site where the Masjid was standing.
Gujarat’s Chief Minster Narendra Modi, reportedly organized the brutal killings of about 2000 innocent Musl1ms in his state.
By democratic logic Modi should have lost power in the next State elections. But within six months after the pogroms in Gujarat, Modi contested the state elections and WON BY A BIGGER MAJORITY. Because of Natural Communal nature of GUJUS……………
So the best way to come to power in India BJP is to start communal riots and kill as many innocent minority lives ( Musl1ms, Christ1ans ) and set fire to their homes and destroy their shops and means of livelihood.
Re: Without voilence BJP can never gain political power !!!!!!!!!
by Bharat Vasi on Apr 27, 2009 11:23 AM
Falcon... The Mosque desecration is recorded and the PVNR and Laloo and the other CM's of the states where the yatra passed are to be blamed. Read Sudarshan's account on the the desecration: 1. PVNR did not appeal to the court to come up with an earlier date to hear the issue, inspite of Karsevaks building in Ayodahya. 2. It is RECORDED EVEN BY THE COURT, THAT ADVANI AND PARTY REPEATEDLY APPEALED TO THE KARSEVAKS NOT DAMAGE THE STRUCTURE. 3. Laloo, unleashed the Kar Sevaks fury by arresting Advani. ------------------------------------------- Gujarat 2002 was a mass uprising,no body could not have stopped it, not even the army with full shoot at sight orders. --------------------------------------------- Musl1ms are to be blamed for each and every communal carnage in this country, they have always gotten away with it coz it was H1ndus who always suffered. 2002 has changed all that, coz after that India has not seen any communal violence.
Re: Re: Re: Without voilence BJP can never gain political power !
by true tamilan on Apr 27, 2009 11:30 AM
and akalis also. You can argue with people who has half knowledge, but not with people without any.
Re: Truth
by Syed Raja on Apr 27, 2009 11:20 AM
Remember, he has clearly mentioned that he would be only a candidate. It is hidden that even in 2014, he won't win.
Re: Re: Truth
by Falcon on Apr 27, 2009 11:20 AM
One leg is in grave and other one flying in the air wonder even if he could be able to comeplte the first term if he gets elected....
It looks as if the segregation based Indian democracy can work properly only if BJP use violence. Look at the situation in India now………..
Advani whose BJP had ONLT TWO MP SEATS in the Indian Parliament, became the rulers of India by increasing the number of MP seats to about 180, after demolishing 460 year old Babri Masjid on the most unconvincing pretext that the H1ndu god Rama was born on the site where the Masjid was standing.
Gujarat’s Chief Minster Narendra Modi, reportedly organized the brutal killings of about 2000 innocent Musl1ms in his state.
By democratic logic Modi should have lost power in the next State elections. But within six months after the pogroms in Gujarat, Modi contested the state elections and WON BY A BIGGER MAJORITY. Because of Natural Communal nature of GUJUS……………
So the best way to come to power in India BJP is to start communal riots and kill as many innocent minority lives ( Musl1ms, Christ1ans ) and set fire to their homes and destroy their shops and means of livelihood.
Re: Without voilence BJP can never gain political power !!!!!!!!!
by roopesh raghavan on Apr 27, 2009 11:21 AM
BJP Never done any violence in any part of the country. How you are saying it was BJP who has done the v!olance. By saying this how you can forget about the tain burning by m!nor!ties. Please understand Every @ction has equal and opposite reaction. In all the r!ots always Hindus are the losers. In a small sea shore called Marad in Kerala, in the v!olance 9 H!ndus got k!lled and the m!nor!ty caus@lty is only 1. And nobody talk about that. WHY ?Can you expect this in any other country. Please dont be this much prejudis before talking.
Re: Re: Re: Without voilence BJP can never gain political power !
by Bharat Vasi on Apr 27, 2009 11:30 AM
Falcon... You reported my retort to your tissue of lies as abuse. Speaks for your guts. You read my message and so let it sink into you, Indics will not take your treachery lying down any longer. You move and you will have 2002 like MASS UPRISINGS EVERYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY. Be prepared for it.
Re: Re: Without voilence BJP can never gain political power !!!!!
by V S on Apr 27, 2009 11:23 AM
ya right. train burning was an accident. u just want to justify your hate so are trying to label entire muslim community.
Re: Re: Re: Without voilence BJP can never gain political power !
by roopesh raghavan on Apr 27, 2009 11:28 AM
All the attach on H!indus, an accident but against minority it is preplanned. If all in the train was H@jj pilgims then it will be a conspiracy.
Re: Without voilence BJP can never gain political power !!!!!!!!!
by roopesh raghavan on Apr 27, 2009 11:26 AM
Modi demolished 430 Temples, for developing the Road and Infrastructure. Can you call him a communal leader. and a case in this regard is on and it was the main slogen of Congress in Gugarat in their election compaign
Re: Re: Without voilence BJP can never gain political power !!!!!
by Karthikeyan Ramakrishna on Apr 27, 2009 11:46 AM
RR well said, dont waste your energy arguing with pseudo seculars, BJP will come to power anyways, they are frustated awaiting their defeat.
It looks as if the segregation based Indian democracy can work properly only if political parties use violence.
Look at the situation in India now………..
Advani whose BJP had ONLT TWO MP SEATS in the Indian Parliament, became the rulers of India by increasing the number of MP seats to about 180, after demolishing 460 year old Babri Masjid on the most unconvincing pretext that the H1ndu god Rama was born on the site where the Masjid was standing.
Gujarat’s Chief Minster Narendra Modi, reportedly organized the brutal killings of about 2000 innocent Musl1ms in his state.
By democratic logic Modi should have lost power in the next State elections. But within six months after the pogroms in Gujarat, Modi contested the state elections and WON BY A BIGGER MAJORITY. Because of Natural Communal nature of GUJUS……………
So the best way to come to power in India is to start communal riots and kill as many innocent minority lives ( Musl1ms, Christ1ans ) and set fire to their homes and destroy their shops and means of livelihood.
