The option "no religion" has to be opted in all forms and census in India just like before 1830 when there was no census. The census should not ask for religion as before 1830s. We must not demonise any religion, language, caste, race, nation, status etc which are man made.We all people of the world and our country have common ancestor and we all are relatives irrespective of religion, language, caste, race, nation, status etc. The scientists have confirmed this fact medically. The people of India belong to different anthropological stocks. The population of India & Indian subcontinent is derived from six main ethnic groups and others: Negrito, Pro-Australoids, Mongoloids, Dravidian, Western Brachycephals, Nordics or Indo-Aryans etc etc settled from different times and now it is mixed race. So we must not do violence/kill our own human relatives for sake of religion, language, caste, race, nation, status etc. We have a secular constitution and all are equal. All Indian are sons of soil and original inhabitants of our Great Country India & have equal rights. Every body have migrated from other countries at different periods of time to India for the past 5000 years & intermingled with existing races & now it is a mixed race and vice versa. Like others some Indian Origin people opted for Muslim and created a new Hindustani Languageareourbrothers
Many thousands of different village religions (Entirely different from this Hindu Brahmanical Relegion) in India were artificially combined and the single digit Hindu Religion became double digit in the First British Census in 1830. The Aryans came to power on the Congress elephant by deviously converting the pre-independence political debate and struggle into a communal religious struggle. This was made possible by the master stroke of Mahatama Gandhi - who made "Hindus" a 55% majority on paper in the 1920s upon getting the Dalits or "untouchables" (20%) dubbed as "Hindus" by the British. This coup moved the "Hindus" from 35% to a 55% majority in British India . In pre-independence India, Muslims were 25%, Sikhs, Christians, Buddhists, Tribal Religions etc. formed the remaining 20%.This action along with recognition of Congress as the sole political representative of all Indians in national matters, was a payoff by the British colonial authorities to the Aryan lead Congress and Gandhi for loyal services rendered to British empire in supporting their World War I war effort; recruiting the "martial" communities (e.g. Sikhs, Jats, Rajputs, Gujars etc) of the northwest and Muslims to go fight for the British Empire in Europe/Middle east; subduing, opposing, infiltrating and sabotaging other non-Congress/non-Aryan lead political parties and independence movements organized at home (whosawBritishweaknessduringthewarasanidealopportunity).The55% fraudulent "Hindu pile" was little
The White Indians came to power on the Congress elephant by deviously converting the pre-independence political debate and struggle into a communal religious struggle. This was made possible by the master stroke of Mahatama Gandhi "Santhans" a 55% majority on paper in the 1920s upon getting the Dalits or "untouchables" (20%) dubbed as "Santhans" by the British. This coup moved the "Santhans" from 35% to a 55% majority in British India . In pre-independence India, Muslims were 25%, Sikhs, Christians, Buddhists, Tribal Religions etc. formed the remaining 20%.This action along with recognition of Congress as the sole political representative of all Indians in national matters, was a payoff by the British colonial authorities to the White Indian lead Congress and Gandhi for loyal services rendered to British empire in supporting their World War I war effort; recruiting the "martial" communities (e.g. Sikhs, Jats, Rajputs, Gujars etc) of the northwest and Muslims to go fight for the British Empire in Europe/Middle east; subduing, opposing, infiltrating and sabotaging other non-Congress/non-Aryan lead political parties and independence movements organized at home (who saw British weakness during the war as an ideal opportunity). The 55% fraudulent "Santhans" was little more than a political game of White Indian and political parties in Delhi while caste Santhans would not eat/touch/marry/socialize/even worship with their"polluted"Dalits in 1920s. (20% untouchables) in the 1920s
Babri was not an issue untill that useless fellow Rajiv Gandhi got the locked site opened and allowed shilanyas to be performed. He tried desperately for Hindu votes in UP. That was the beginning and BJP took over later on. Babri demolition, godhra carnage, Gujarat riots and perhaps so many bomb blasts could all have been avoided if only the congress had acted prudently and not for votes.
Re: Rajiv Gandhi started it all
by Ram Sharma on Apr 18, 2009 04:33 PM
No logic,wisdom, sense or a respect for our heritage can cut any ice with people who think like you! It is not known if you are an agnostic/atheist/muzlim/christian/SC/ST/OBC, to hold such horrendous views about the temple built at the site of the birth of incarnation of God-Shri Ram!
Secondly, Rajiv was a very good PM but made the blunder of sending the Army to Lanka to fight somebody else's battle.
The demolition of the wailing babri masjid was long overdue and should have been done on 15 Aug 1947. All other useless tombs made by barbaric muzlim invaders/raiders all over India should also be demolished forthwith .
Re: Re: Rajiv Gandhi started it all
by Sathish N on Apr 18, 2009 05:04 PM
Rajiv was a good PM itself is debatable. One cannot base conclusions whose basis is debatable point is. Look at bofors, nepotism, corruption and just the way he was inducted into politics. If he was even half good, he would not kept away from dynastic politics.
Re: Re: Re: Rajiv Gandhi started it all
by Ram Sharma on Apr 18, 2009 05:41 PM
Corruption,nepotism, bribery etc. in Indian politics were NOT introduced by Rajiv Gandhi!!! He was a CLEAN and capable man who had to take over the reigns of the country in the most tragic of circumstances! If the IAS men and babus accept bribe from suppliers/brokers of the Bofors gun, can Rajiv be held accountable for the kickbacks!
He was an excellent PM who had thwarted the impemntation of the shit and illegal recommendations of the Mandal Commission, which were later implemented by the useless VP Singh. Varun has traces of Rajiv! And will make a good PM in the years to come! Meanwhile all TOMBS all ,over India should be demolished as they are glorifying the merciless and barbaric invaders.
Re: Rajiv Gandhi started it all
by Speed on Apr 18, 2009 04:26 PM
U mean Babri is issue for bomb blasts? How about Kashmir pundits, anti sikh riots, Pakistan war etc... Are these contribution of secularists and communists?
Re: Re: Rajiv Gandhi started it all
by GODAVARTI RAmesh on Apr 18, 2009 05:09 PM
Ram and Speed BJP did not have plans to demolish Babri until Shilanyas was performed. It is competitive politics. R Gandhi and BJP did what they could for Hindu votes in U P . Babri led to Godhra which led to Gujarat and many terrorist attacks which followed. One thing leads to the other. BJP could have been a good alternative to congress . It could have given new meaning to nationalism and secularism with out fanning communal hatred . But alas it was not to be.
Re: Re: Re: Rajiv Gandhi started it all
by Ram Sharma on Apr 18, 2009 05:33 PM
If it is wrong to perform the shilanayas at the site where a Temple is to be rebuilt, then where should it be performed? In Mecca?
It is unfortunate that Hinduism is not accorded its rightful place in India due to atheists/agnostics/communists/Congress/SP etc.
It is strange that people mention about the alleged spread of communal hatred by BJP while conveniently forgetting the anti Hindu and anti Indai venom being spewed out in madarsas all over India, and in J&K.
This time The Govt would be something like this at Cenetr.
1. Congress will get support of greedy persons as usual. Therefore the chances are more to form the Govt by Congress under UPA. a) first MMS as declared would be PM at least for 6 months and then Soniya Gandhi on Helth Ground will terminate MMS. b) Next step the supporting parties fellow like ADMK/SP/RJD/BSP could be PM for next 6 months nad he or she would be kicked out or there would be understanding on this issue before giving a chance. 3) finally Rahul Gandhi would be PM as all congress supporter including MMS / Joker pranab mukharjee has alredy told this country that Rahul is capable for PM and they want to work under him.
It is better than to have three PM to this country and later on giving security, cammondos to their familly for life time on tax payers money, congress and BJP should get united and they should form the Govt. Who so ever will get more seats will be PM and this will be good for this country as well.
Every media is owned by overseas Christian organisations.It was difficult to believe but the Election coverage by TV Media is prooving the point. BUT NOW IT IS PROVED BEYOND DOUBT. (1)No TV Media aired the News on the suicide of Senior Vadhera. If any such death had happened in the family of a BJP person, the Media would have gone agog with the news. (2)Teestha Setalwad was exposed of creating most of the Gujarat Riot Stories and in fact taken the Supreme court almost for a ride.Imagine a similar offence by the opposite side.There would have been discussions,hen fights,opinion polls and SMS surveys. The MEDIA OF THIS DECADE WILL BE REMEMBERED FOR AGES TO COME. IT IS A BLOT ON JOURNALISM.
Is there any Indian who will lodge a criminal case on Testha Setalwad for her crimes against the communal harmony of this country?
Re: REAL FACE OF INDIAN MEDIA. –How can you trust them any
by aganthakudu on Apr 18, 2009 04:24 PM
No! we won't take any action against sicklar leaders,
see varun has arrested and booked under nasa. but D.Srinivas of APPCC chief, andhra pradesh has spoken against hindos. but EC has not taken action on him.
Re: REAL FACE OF INDIAN MEDIA. –How can you trust them any
by dhandu on Apr 18, 2009 04:18 PM
NDTV:Funded by Gospels of Charity in Spain supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner towards Pakistan because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be aired in Pakistan. Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, Gen Secy of Communist party of India. CNN-IBN: 100% Funded by Southern Baptist Church with its branches in all over the world with HQ in US. The Church annualy allocates 800 Million Dollars for Promotion of its channel. Its Indian Head is Rajdeep Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh. TIMES GROUP LIST: TIMES OF INDIA, MID-DAY, NAV-BHARTH TIMES, STARDUST, FEMINA, VIJAYA TIMES, VIJAYA KARNATAKA, TIMES NOW (24 hr News Channel) & many more.
Times Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. 80% of the Funding is done by “WORLD CHRISTIAN COUNCIL” , and balance 20% is equally shared by an Englishman and an Italian. The Italian ROBERTIO MINDO IS A CLOSE RELATIVE OF SONIA GANDHI.
STAR TV: Is run by an Australian, who is supported by St. Peters Pontificial Church Melbourne. HINDUSTAN TIMES: Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed since Shobana Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in Collobration with Times Group. THE HINDU:A English Daily, started over 125 years has been recently taken over by Joshua Society, Berne, Switzerland. INDIAN EXPRESS:DIVIDED INTO TWO GROUPS. THE INDIAN EXPRESS & NEW INDIAN EXPRESS (SOUTHERN
Re: Re: REAL FACE OF INDIAN MEDIA. –How can you trust them
by Ram Sharma on Apr 18, 2009 04:44 PM
Abs correct! That's why Arnab of "Times Now" TV news channel could not hide his resentment at the release of Varun on parole! All these English news channels need to be kicked in their backside for the anti India reporting.
Re: REAL FACE OF INDIAN MEDIA. –How can you trust them any
by GODAVARTI RAmesh on Apr 18, 2009 04:39 PM
Yes very true. Our Media is a big joke.
They will conveniently ignore some news which does not conform to their beliefs and value system. SIT observed that 'most of the witnesses seem to have been tutored.' No body can deny there were riots and Muslims suffered . But the NGO'S and Human Rights activists have a penchant for exaggeration and overkill to make their point. Consequently their objectivity and credibility suffers. This has happened time and again. They are also selective in representing cases. For Ex they never bothered to take up cases relating to Sikh massacre or the plight of Pandits or the mass arrests and torture of tribals in Kandhamal orissa. These are all glaring examples which the people are noticing.
Re: REAL FACE OF INDIAN MEDIA. –How can you trust them any
by Sivananthalingam Kasilingam on Apr 18, 2009 04:28 PM
very true! adding some recent incidents to that, Rahul's lie to EC. Madam's bad words in compaign.
recently a scam by NDTV, kept a poll on their website with dummy buttons but the result was showing 75% yes against Varun's release!
the sudo-sickular communal ELM channels are the curse of the nation! be aware and keep away from them!
Re: REAL FACE OF INDIAN MEDIA. –How can you trust them any
by chandra pant on Apr 18, 2009 04:27 PM
yes it would have been reported to Police and investigation must be carried out why Vadera did sucide. Investigation must be done. Had it been to any other person. Than (remember aarushi case) near and dear including parents could have been joailed. Why Priyanka is not Jailed till now ? Where is CID/ Morudabad Police ?
Congress accused and put the entire blame on the then PM, Narsimha Rao for Babri and washed off its hands. So much for vote bank politics, the death of a tall leader like Narsimha rao who put in yeoman service for Congress was ignored by the rank and file of the party. However the opportunistic Sonia and Congress remembered him and praised his services during the campaign in Andhra Pradesh recently. Clearly an opportunistic ploy to garner votes in his name. Congress belives in no ethics, gain power by hook are crook is the only theme of the party.
Re: YSR christianizing Andhra Pradesh
by CongressIN on Apr 18, 2009 04:37 PM
AP have about 85% H1ndus. What H1ndus doing? Why they worship Itaoianoo christian Congress? Shame on AP H1ndus.
We hope, Congress wil be defeated by TDP and Prajarajyam.
Re: YSR christianizing Andhra Pradesh
by SI on Apr 18, 2009 04:18 PM
Unfortunately most of the telugus including the idiot CBnaidu are unaware about this!This is very bad n all these Hindus are going to get shunted like their kerala counter parts (out of their state).
1. Poverty 2. Hunger 3. Jobcut 4. Lack of proper governance 5. Rising prices of food and all commodities 6. Economic instability 7. Family Dynasty emprire 8. Lack of Social Security 9. Poor people become poor 10. Lack of Infrastructure for Industrial Growth 11. Lack of Basic Health Support in Villages 12. Insecurity 13.Farmers are starving and Dying, no steps to support them 14. Unemployment for crores of youth 15. Young people are frustrated because lack of support from Govt 16. Lack of Basic Infrastructure for Sports 17. Thousands of Villagers are living wihout Electricity and Drinking Water
