That's alright to not disown a person who said something in haste. But what does it tell of a person who said something worng and continues to deny it and once proved (if at all) then expects to be rehabilitated. It is these subtle messages that the BJP provides to both it core supporters and minorities that mass murders and calls to murders of minorities are nothing at all and can be denied no end and if founnd out then simply forgiven. Advani himself and Modi are living proofs of this mindset.
The BJP is in denial and so are its core supporters
Hinduism is nothing but COVERT mask for Casteism which intrinsically seeds HATRED in your Children (e.g.VARUN GANDHI).
Hinduism's is a hierarchical-based system of keeping one class (Brahmins?) over everyone else.
In America there is no system in place today that forces people to remain separate or keeps one class subservient to another. If you were born the son of a street sweeper, but excelled, you could become a doctor or lawyer or some celebrity or entrepreneur - and at the same time you would be fully accepted by your peers.
Not so in India. The caste system freezes everyone in place. It is extremely difficult - almost impossible - for someone from the lowest caste to rise in education and social status.
A Dalit would never be allowed to marry into one of the higher castes and would never be accepted as an equal. And for a Dalit to make it into MEDICAL school or opening a RESTAURANT or become a member of high SOCIETYin India is very rare indeed.
Only by escaping from the grasp of Hinduism do they have much of a chance.... And till then you must only vote for candidates from your caste till 85% of all registered marriages in India are INTER-CASTE or INTER-FAITH.
Re: Hinduism intrinsically seeds HATRED in your Children (e.g.Var
by QandA QandA on Apr 13, 2009 09:29 PM
Shia / Sunni Prodestants/Chatholics/Mormens
It's interesting that the religion Hinduism cannot control the follower.. He is free to create his own sects or groups...
There is NO OTHER RELIGION IN THE WORLD WHICH HAS NO COMPULSIONS WHICH ALLOWS NO CONVERSION AND WHICH ALLOWS ANY CREATION OF GOD TO BE WORSHHIPED INCLUDING HUMANS , STONES OR STARS TOGETHER...
If you read any HINDU SCRIPT there is nothing related to Casteism... Show me a Hindu book which preaches Castismm...
Aparthied in South Africa which was Christain cannot be considered as propagated by Christianity...
Then WHY IS CASTEISM ASSOCIATED WITH HINDUISM.. It was a way of life and IT HAS GO NOTHING TO DO WITH HINDUSIM..
Re: Re: Hinduism intrinsically seeds HATRED in your Children (e.g
by Hilmesh Gandhi on Apr 13, 2009 11:24 PM
"It's interesting that the religion Hinduism cannot control the follower.. ....There is NO OTHER RELIGION IN THE WORLD WHICH HAS NO COMPULSIONS WHICH ALLOWS NO CONVERSION " - what a bunch of lies Qanda Qanda. When dozens of people were killed in Orissa and so many homes and institutions were burnt and destroyed because of "conversions", what lies are you telling???? So if hinduism is such a tolerate religion compared to others, why are hundreds of people killed for being from another religion or choosing to follow another religion???
Lies lies lies! Kill kill kill! burn burn burn! rape rape rape! Innocents were burnt, rendered homeless and raped because you did not want them to change their religion from Hinduism!
Re: Hinduism intrinsically seeds HATRED in your Children (e.g.Var
by save india on Apr 13, 2009 08:33 PM
how much the curch pays you to post this everyday on every board in rediff?
Re: Hinduism intrinsically seeds HATRED in your Children (e.g.Var
by parameswaran K on Apr 13, 2009 08:14 PM
And who created this situation. In 1947, immediately after independence, no Indian ever had a caste bearing mindset. It is the congress party which ruled continoulsy for 50 years, divided people on the basis of religion first, then sub religions, thereafter casteist feelings under the Hindus. This went on. Mandal commission was the height of hypocracy and the Mandal man is no more in this world now. You are talking about inter-faith and inter-caste. There are some problems related to inter-caste in the rural belt of some states, but it is practically non existent elsewhere. As far as inter-religion is concerned, if a Hindu girl marries a Muslim boy, it symbolises national unity, whereas if the reverse happens, honour killing takes place and the government remains a mute spectator. Why this differentiation. As long as congress patronises such a system, solely for the purpose of remaining in power, caste system cannot be erradicated. K. Parameswaran
" will tell him never to do it (again)," --------- Seems Mr Advani has not read Hindu philosophy in depth. It contains profound definitions of terms like Prarabdha, Samskara, Vritti, Nyaya, etc..
Telling somebody and providing margdarshana are two different things. Anyway, the leaders are expected to be margdarshak and not being told what to do and not to do.
Re: leaderji may again become mere darshak when viprit buddhi str
by Ramesh on Apr 13, 2009 07:22 PM
It is not clear whether unwittingly or by design their leaders are creating grounds for communal cauldron in Indo-Gangetic plain.
Instead of this rightward thrust BJP may be better off to make room for a leftward orientation, which would make room to accommodate the left leaning forward looking cultural streams comprising considerable intellectual acumen. This would be consistent with developmental and caring thrust which is gradually becoming the hallmark of BJP.
Re: Re: leaderji may again become mere darshak when viprit buddhi
by Preetham Selvakumar on Apr 13, 2009 07:38 PM
well you still have not read the left story in India if you are supporting them, bunch of morons have been the resaon for indians to fell cynism about them selves ,
Re: Re: Re: leaderji may again become mere darshak when viprit bu
by Ramesh on Apr 13, 2009 07:56 PM
Was not referring to Communism! Left thought streams also imply people like Tagore, Premchand, Nirala, Dinkar, Harivansh Rai Bachhan, Sumitranandan Pant...they were great writers with a well developed national and political perspectives.
BJP's with its Hindutva polity is a contrarian to their refined thoughts. If only BJP upgrades to Bharatiyata, it can receive the scholarship of these advanced thinkers. ABV tried to do so as PM but the Hindutva brigade which is neither religious nor literary had pinned him down.
Re: Re: Re: Re: leaderji may again become mere darshak when vipri
by Ramesh on Apr 13, 2009 08:01 PM
These Hindutva jokers want to create Hindu Rashtra! They know not what they have face if they try to undermine the secular Indian state. -------------
yah kanoon angrej nahin hai bharat key aan jo andhiyara door karey aur drohi say takkar
Re: believe it or not?
by Shah Mohammad on Apr 13, 2009 06:59 PM
It's only Statement and statement is made to make statement. let the PM happy with his statement.
India was prosperous, India was cultured, India was a dream destination all before these Muslims and Christians entered it. Why can't we think of sending tem back to their own countries ???? after all they will be happy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Muslims and Christians need to be sent back to their countrie
by Shah Mohammad on Apr 13, 2009 07:01 PM
Dear, Hindus was never originally from the continent , they came from outside and so u must also let ur baggage with u . let only Tamil and Travidian be here as they r only the originally here
Re: Re: Muslims and Christians need to be sent back to their coun
by ANAND on Apr 13, 2009 07:26 PM
This is your finding.There were no mus slims on earth forget about india till 7th century.All mus slims of india are either forcebly converted or for want of booty
Congress is good because it understands that our way of life is the only good way of life. Sonia ji along with a Iman has given afatwa to all of us to vote for congress and to destabilize the stupid majority.Sonia ji has promised us that Congress will rtebuld babri masjid and also demolish a few temples to compensate for the Babri demolition.We canb hope that even Kashmir will be cleansed of the stupid Pandits and Kashmiris can get freedom or join PAK. All of us in India should vote for Congress led by Sonia Memsaab.
Re: Sonia Memsaab is great!!
by Anand Mujumdar on Apr 13, 2009 05:58 PM
I did not read or hear any protest from Samajwadi, Congress, CPM leaders and Muslims in India when mosques are blown up in Pakistan by suicide bombers.
Re: Re: Sonia Memsaab is great!!
by Shah Mohammad on Apr 13, 2009 07:03 PM
They are the real terrorist who blowing the bomb any where whether its Mosque ot Temple or else place , these people should by hang and start from Afjal to end with Kasab
Re: Re: Re: Sonia Memsaab is great!!
by Rashid Ali on Apr 13, 2009 07:07 PM
Shah Bhai. Why are u speaking against Mujaideen, For us the Umma has to be the first priorit that is why most of us support Pakistan even in Cricket Match. When Tamil support LTTE or Sri lanka tamil it is ok but when we support Pakistan or Mujahideen we are critisized.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Sonia Memsaab is great!!
by Shah Mohammad on Apr 13, 2009 07:11 PM
Dear Rashid, They are not Mujahiddin who blow the mosque and killed innocent. It seems u do not know the true meaning of Jehad too. Life only granted by Allah and he is only can take no one else.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sonia Memsaab is great!!
by Rashid Ali on Apr 13, 2009 07:18 PM
See at times Jihad violence becomes imperatvie. I understand that another beliver should not be killed at any cost but there are times when non believers need to be attacked.Unfortunately we are born in a land of idolators.But it is a fact that most of us support Pakistan.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sonia Memsaab is great!!
by Happy Indian on Apr 13, 2009 07:35 PM
Mr. Ali, if you don't like the land of idoltors why don't you move to Pakistan
Re: Re: How to save India
by Anand Mujumdar on Apr 13, 2009 05:34 PM
The way Pakistan expelled Hindus and Kashmiri Pandits, the same way send Muslims to Pakistan
Re: Re: Re: Re: How to save India
by Anand Mujumdar on Apr 13, 2009 05:48 PM
We need one Shivaji Maharaj and that is Varun, Are you sensetive when mosques are blown up in Pakistan by suicide bombers?
Re: Re: Re: Re: How to save India
by Ajay on Apr 13, 2009 05:58 PM
You people are more idiotic to follow a religion preached by a person who raped 6 year old girl at the age of 54..... In Saudi which is the epicenter of Islam woman are not allowed to drive and mingle with man at work....What a shame on this 21st century... Recently a 75 year old woman was subjected to 40 lashes and 4 month imprisonment for getting bread from distant relative...Is this what your religion teaching you? You fools are blasting your own place of worship and killing worshippers...Howlong you are going to continue with adventure of torching girls school, denying woman right of education, flogging woman in public,etc...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: How to save India
by Shah Mohammad on Apr 13, 2009 07:08 PM
Dear u r true, but if some body did not follow the right path as describe in the Book, than its mistake of him not the book, u can find every where the culprit.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: How to save India
by tajender on Apr 13, 2009 07:30 PM
Recently a 75 year old woman was subjected to 40 lashes and 4 month imprisonment for getting bread from distant relative...Is this what your religion teaching you? You fools are blasting your own place of worship and killing worshippers...Howlong you are going to continue with adventure of torching girls school, denying woman right of education, flogging woman in public,etc...
Re: Re: Re: How to save India
by Shah Mohammad on Apr 13, 2009 07:06 PM
Even though u dream once, the situation become worst. first u so called nationalist group in once not upper cast , lower cast system.
Re: Re: Re: Re: How to save India
by tajender on Apr 13, 2009 07:33 PM
you are going to continue with adventure of torching girls school, denying woman right of education, flogging woman in public,etc
why u quote worst in other countries MUSLIM WOMAN IS FAR MORE EDUCATED THAN INDIAN WOMAN.EXAMPLE IRAN MALAYSIA ¢ral asian countries.SAUDIA THEY R SO RICH THEY DONT NEED EDUCATION.uae woman are moving very fast.
Pramod Mahajan was not the person he looked like. He had developed the image of a fixer. He did not respect anyone. His lifestyle did not go well with us. He had affairs with several women. His wife Rekha had even thought of a divorce," Pravin claimed.
what a great sanghi this vile wicked chamoleon was.
isiliye
BJP won't disown Varun even if tapes are true: Advani
QADR ULLU KI ULLU JANTA HAI GADHEY KO SIRF BJP HI PAHCHANTA HAI QADR ULLU KI ULLU JANTA HAI
Re: hindooism is the true monotheist religion in the World,
by raja ray on Apr 13, 2009 02:55 PM
These people are actually now licking the feets of the people who exploited there sisters and mothers and killed or tortured their gathers.
Re: Re: hindooism is the true monotheist religion in the World,
by vinayak purohit on Apr 13, 2009 03:46 PM
Hindooism belives in one god (monotheist) ,for it recognises divine unity in multiplicity. It does not say: " there is only one God, which is Allah(or Crist). If you do not believe in Him I will convert(or kill you
verma jee if it is true why u mascared around around 10000 christians in orrisa last year&raped thier woman.
Whereever Muslims are in a majority , they declare it an Islamic state and have Islamic Law. For example all countries in the middle east are Islamic Countries
aries aries u are ignorant&INNOCENT BOTH.THERE 71 MUSLIM MAJORITY COUNTRY IN WORLD.
ONLY PAKISTAN IS ISLAMIC.remaining all are run by reason not on religion.these includes saudi arabia&all other `middle east countries.
this lie is propagated by sagh parivat&vedic`wolves to fool indians.as thgey`will head hindu samaj&fk them.
Re: muslim nations
by Aries aries on Apr 13, 2009 02:45 PM
in saudi you cannot have a temple or a church. if you carry the gita , it is confiscated by customs and burnt. there are many more examples , but you will not believe me. Please study the constitution of these Islamic countries and you will then be aware of the truth and how these islamic countries make it a daunting task for followers of other religions to practise their faith
Re: muslim nations
by S S on Apr 13, 2009 02:40 PM
Any good scheme from BJP is bad for media
Ladli Laxmi Yojana scheme was started by the BJP government in MP in 2006. In a very short time, it has proved to be one of the most successful social welfare schemes in the history of the state.
Under the scheme, the state government buys saving certificates of Rs 6,000 each year for five consecutive years for every girl born in a family.
The girl gets Rs 2,000 after she completes her Class 5, another Rs 4,000 after she completes Class 8, Rs 7,500 after she completes the Class 10, Rs 200 per month in her 11th standard and a lumpsum amount of Rs 1,18,000 after she enters the 12th standard or, alternatively, attains the age of 18.
The principal aim of the scheme is to eliminate school dropout among girl students and to encourage them to study at least upto pre-college level.
This is what I (as an Indian) call development of girl child; unfortunately no media will project this, but will project BJP as T@liban if some Sene beats a girl who goes to a pub only coz it happened in a state ruled by BJP. This bias is going to be the undoing of the Congress
Re: Re: muslim nations
by golwalkar on Apr 13, 2009 02:52 PM
do the good work everybody will appreciate.anti muslim hate compaign based on lies will take u nowhere.india will also become another swat.opportunistic policy of division is anti-national.
sidhis and punjabis not born in india are pure carrierist.
Re: Re: Re: Re: muslim nations
by golwalkar on Apr 13, 2009 03:00 PM
all of them are secular except pakistan.but in pakistan also minorities are not living under shadow of death as in india.
even in pakistan or afghanistan no one is killed because of his faith.like in india sometime muslim sometime sikh some time christians.
Re: Re: Re: Re: muslim nations
by golwalkar on Apr 13, 2009 03:07 PM
Unfortunately, the harm done by the Izlamic invasion is not over.
verma jee it is islamic civilization gave everything to india and world. even prince charles recently advised the church to accept the fact that BASE OF EUROPRAN CIVILIZATION IS ISLAMIC CIVILIZATION.
tell what u had before arrival of muslims in this land.
buhdhdist did some great things but vedics destroyed them.now except theft siphoning of`wealth&cyber slavery what is happening.
tell me name of road or any hospital vedics build.
only enslaving of original indians using their ladies
mentally &spiritually convincing them that they r dirty &low.then wars after wars.same u r doing now.
Re: Re: Re: Re: muslim nations
by golwalkar on Apr 13, 2009 03:13 PM
hAHAHA .. THAT IS WHY THE KASHMIRIR PANDITS RAN AWAY AND THATS WHY WE GET LAKHS OF HINDU REFUGEES, FLEEING FROM THIER LIFE FROM PAKISTAN EVERY YEAR ..
vedic nazi jagmohan removed them from kashmir to escape hardships of non stop curfew.
no muslim or jihadi organizations ever targetted them.
