It is ridiculas, after 25 yeara make some one scape goat. Mr Tytler is very simple persons, I think some vestern intrested person is doing all these type of non sense act. If Congress denies tickets to Mr. Jagdish Tytler then it is acepting the responsibility for 1984 riots. It is just a political game by opposition parties. Whenever the tickets are not given to Mr.Tytler whole congress will vanish in India it is past hsitry record.
Re: Sonia to take final call on axing Tytler and Sajjan Kumar
by Mahesh Jagga on Apr 09, 2009 09:56 AM
Commission after commission has named Congress leaders for leading the rioters, asking police to stay away and pressurizing Home ministry to delay deployment of army. Tytler, Sajjan and Maken actually distributed cash and bottles to all those who participated in riots.
Funny that you say it is a political game by opposition. Did Sikhs commit suicides or what?
Re: Re: Sonia to take final call on axing Tytler and Sajjan Kumar
by Kumar S on Apr 09, 2009 10:07 AM
They were killer, they killed Numebr of Hindus in Punjab, all activity run from golden Temple, They are responsible for Killing Number of Hindu in 80s, May be you were not born or adolcent in those days how they kill hindu you never know, In Delhi on 2000 or more but in punjab lacs of Hindu given their life in hand of Sikh Terrorism ,
Re: Re: Re: Sonia to take final call on axing Tytler and Sajjan K
by Periyasamy KS on Apr 09, 2009 10:13 AM
Your argument is very poor!! If a terror group kills some one that does not mean the community whom the terror belongs to is responsible!
According to your argument, since Jadish Tytler was named for this does that mean all congress men are responsible?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Sonia to take final call on axing Tytler and Sajj
by Kumar S on Apr 09, 2009 10:28 AM
Now that was only false & fabricated charges against them , but no evidence or witness till the date come before court to say, even in NDA govt unable to procecute themYou were right community was not responsible, But their responsibilty to retain dignity of the place from all activity goverend in terrorism days,Can we runany religious based hatered activity and kill innocent sitting from Vaisnu devi or high dignity place in Hindu religion, will hindu support them, its a argument on every line and word but no solution will workout, there is No question of Poor or rich argument it was pain of those days , may be you & your family were not part of the same but sevral family displaced and forced to stay in Tents without water & electricity, No hindu organization or individual come out to support them still after 30 years they are living in peergarhe area, 1982 victime were enough supported by sikh forms & Govt of India, that was a accident
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by Periyasamy KS on Apr 09, 2009 10:34 AM
it is again, how you have the pain on your heart?! the same will not applicable to others? Only Hindu will have pain not others?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sonia to take final call on axing Tytler and
by Mahesh Jagga on Apr 09, 2009 10:34 AM
You know Rajni Kothari. Immediately after the riot he published a report on what happened in Delhi between 1st and 4th November. His report is available on net and he names these and more gentlemen? specifically.
Re: Re: Re: Sonia to take final call on axing Tytler and Sajjan K
by Mahesh Jagga on Apr 09, 2009 10:26 AM
By your logic, all congressmen should have been killed after 1984 as they participated in killing Sikhs.
Secondly your knowledge about Punjab problem is not only poor but dangerous. Lacs of Hindus killed? Check your information sources. I recommend a book for your reading. It is called "Amritsar" and is written by Mark Tully. He was BBC correspondent in India and known to be fair and non political. Probably that will open your eyes as to who was responsible for Punjab problem.
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by Gandhi on Apr 10, 2009 06:00 AM
For the information of you guys the Terrorist killed some Hundred od People. Some of the people who were proved to killed by the millitants were either politicians or influencial press. Some of people killed by Punjab police was also counted as terrorist killed. But even if one person dies of this it is bad. But in 84 the figures that were killed were over 10000. This figure shrunk to 4000 five years back. Now the figure shown by most of media is 3000. You can imagine the embrassement of govt controlled media. By the way there are people available who are willing to provide eye winteness to Tytlers involvement. CBI has intervied them and harresed those people and ignored there statements. Tytler and congress leaders were leading mobs and they carried list of ration cards / voter list to look for sikhs to kill.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Sonia to take final call on axing Tytler and Sajj
by Kumar S on Apr 09, 2009 10:34 AM
We are talking about the Hindu Killing not mark tully view, if you want to read the article go & see news papers office see daily reporting on those days how hindu were lined up & shoot them in lines , mark tully and other writers what they said its not Question How many hindu were killed,& no one answer on that means sikh killed hindu that they can do & select ppls on community base & killed them, everyone have on sight to evaluate the situation but victims are victim,
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by Periyasamy KS on Apr 09, 2009 10:43 AM
No one denying that Hindu's also killed in many incident.But, what you want to say now? Since Hindu's were killed by Sikhs so killing them is not punishable?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sonia to take final call on axing Tytler and
by Mahesh Jagga on Apr 09, 2009 10:36 AM
No doubt victims are victims. You justify killing of Sikhs in 1984 as retaliation of what happened in Punjab (in your view) prior to that. It means that if Sikhs today go to streets and kill all congressmen in sight, you are okay with that?
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by Kumar S on Apr 09, 2009 10:45 AM
That was moment , no one justify on any ground, but if something happen like that its okay congress have to see , I am giving as individual its my view its a problm when you say on some thing it goes individual or if I say it means community or whole,
u got into trouble to impress big family during 84, Tytler licked to grow in politics, now he is booted out.. that's all the image of dirty politicians....
Think of commona man, impress him by sincere and hard work, taking seat is LS is very precious, u ppl mis using ...civil war day is advancing fast.... try to escape out of country or u will be asked to eat comman man s't...
Dont remove those leader they are backbone of Delhi, maasive support with them & congress will lost these two seats if they will remove from Candidate list its BJP foul play,BJP know they are going to wash from Delhi Map, Believe in your turn up , they are doing as they did last several election , now both leaders come out from mess as created by BJP & akalis, BJP forget Number of Hindu were killed in those days by sikh Terrorists,BJP may forget those hindus who sacrificed their lives in Punjab and restart, they are talking about 2000 or little more but include Late Ramesh Chandra founder of Punjab Kesari shot dead by these extremists, and our PM Late Miss Gandhi were shot dead by these persons, Hindu migrated from those days survived own , but 1984 victims enjoyed lot of compensation, its surprise those are taking about Hindu Pride now playing with Akali Politics, Shame on BJP /RSS they are sitting quitely, News Papers are saying more then 4000 were kileed in 1984 but no witnessed come to courts & dipossed witness, number of Prominent Akali leader are sitting making hue & cry but no one dare to fill any case against Both Leader, its all Election gimmicks ignore them , we will sure they they able to give strong fight to Double standard BJP, Baday Chalo , Delhi Apkay sath hai,
Re: Re: Pls dont remove Tytler and Sajjan
by Periyasamy KS on Apr 09, 2009 10:16 AM
This guy thinks Congress party still believes Gandhi's principle. It was INC and then Congress(I) and now it is Sonia Congress so tomorrow it will be in some other name...."C"ongress = "C"ulprits, "C"riminals, "C"orruptions
Re: Re: Re: Pls dont remove Tytler and Sajjan
by Kumar S on Apr 09, 2009 10:54 AM
congress still congress, But BJP change entire name to fool ppls, Jansangh to Janta party to Bhartiya janta Party, then bhool Jao Party,(Ram mandir/370/common/Naroda patia/ Taking money for raising question in parliamment/ Human treficking/ Bangaru/ Judev/ civil code) bhag janaywali party,( terrorist bhagao)
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by aurora borealis on Apr 09, 2009 11:00 AM
Haha. cant get anything else so doing a post mortem on names? u suck! BJP can really put ur creative brains to work, but suggest you spend ur energy doing something productive instead of thinking names for them. No one remember this mockery u r making out of them. at least they r not using someone else's name for their own selfish means.
Tytler & Sajjan were obviously not alone in orchestrating the mayhem . From Rajiv the PRIME MINISTER down to Governor ,Police commissioners and all those who were responsible for law and order criminally collaborated. Like Modi , Rajiv won elections hands down and declared `HAMARA BHARAT MAHAN'. But unlike `vibrant’ Gujarat there was no SIT. But for `THAT’ shoe - Chitambram, Kapil sibal, Abhishek singhvi and other `LAWYERS’ comprising the CONGRESS ,or at least 80% of it, had almost made the `AAM ADMI’ agree that not one of those who were `somebodies’ could be held responsible for the torching of over 3000 humans in just 3 days in the NATIONAL CAPITAL. But SONIA could see `MAUT KE SAUDAGARS’ as far away as Gujarat and promote Tytlers and Sajjans as M P’s and Ministers. What audacity !
Please vote and encourage people around you to vote for the right people who can be good leaders. Let politicians have the fear that they have to work to stay in power. Educate people to stay away from cast politics and regional hatred politics and help them in voting for the right person.
well everyone knows who is real PM and who is a dummy PM. fews gr8 stuff of congress i want to highlight.
the petrol prices when reduced this time congress took a long time for it to take a action.
no citizen is feeling safe in country.
thanks to congress govt now the bomb attacks have become like carkers in diwali.
PM is only sees that his pm should not be hampered irrespective of what is happeing in country.
person like lalu and other person who you can doubts are being joined hands.
The recent petrol prices was reduced to Rs 5 when it could be reduced to rs 10 easily.
the attack in bombay showed onething that the security person is not given good amount of protection material the helmet they had could be compared to helmet of metro workers.
i would like to ask mrs gadnhi how has your wealth increased so much in recent times.
well congress maked a huge fuss of varun gandhi speach what about tytler and sajan kumar who is responsible for killing of thousand.
the recent of MR Singh has reduced thanks to sonia gandhi.he has become a joke
A person like Afzal who attacked the parliament his decision the congress didnt decide as they dont want to spoil Muslim vote bank.SHAME...ONE MESSAGE TO CONGRESS WAKE UP AFZAL ATTACKED THE PARLIAMENT ATLEAST RESPECT YOUR PARLIAMENT
Re: the real congress shame
by bharat kapoor on Apr 09, 2009 09:54 AM
AFZAL is being kept alive - one to remind us that terrorists struck Parliament when BJP was in office , two for the fear of losing minority votes & three to keep the possibility of another Kandhar alive for blaming BJP even though that also be an all party decision.
They themselves set their fire on their axx. BJP now got a chance to divert Varun's issue with this. Watch Indian Politics movies is has more Garam Masala than the Bollywood or Hollywood movie.
Justice need to be done. The court will decide about it and no one else. The guilty should be brought to the book to punish them and not the innocent people. Politics can't decide it and definetly not a journalist becoming a polititians. We must be fair in such cases. The incident of 1984, roits at the time of Babri demolition and Gujarat roits are the black spots on our society and we have to do justice to assure that such incidents are not repeated. Let keep some faith in the judiciary and Govt should take corrective action so that incidents do not happen.
the might of people has forced the arrogancy of Sonia and PM and UPA to rethink about tickets to certain persons.In ordere to bring real culprit to book all these persons should face lie detector and narco tests
