1. RAM TEMPLE assured by BJP since 1990. Hum mandir wohi banayenge!? Then matter had been referred to supreme court by NDA govt. & not by congress / UPA/ any other govt. Also, how much time will go into the SUPREME COURT is lot bigger question on Ram Temple? PAVITRATA matter also there because, where 400-500 years persons other than Hindus prayed whether it is possible that Ram Temple had been acomplished at that spot? 2. When UPA Govt. had assured 6th pay commission, then there is extra load of Rs. 20,000 Crs. of extra payouts. What is the impact then? Fiscal discipline demoralised & fiscal deficit shot up to 12% from just 5%(healthy position). If Rs. 500,000 Crs. river joining project even thought to be implemented then it will took many years to built up. Whether it is possible in just only 5 years? If possible, then Indian fiscal deficit will touch to that high from where India become bankrupt. So that is totally impossible in current scenario. 3. BJP is willing to give armed forces exemptions to military forces. Why youth join the military, just because of papi pet ka sawal? They can't do anything else so join the military. It is the greatest mistake of UPA govt. to give 6th pay commission & especially to military personnel. Due to income tax exemption, there is clearcut loss to exchequer. How fiscal discipline being maintained, just impossible! Clearcut indications, BJP promising that which is impossible. Public is foolest ever is the IDEOLOGY OF BJP!
BJP should persuade veteran actor with a clean & scandal free record Suresh Oberoi to stand for elections as the Party's candidate in this Lok Sabha elections. Millions of his fans will be attracted to the BJP and Vivek Oberoi his son (named after Swami Vivekananda by Suresh) should campaign for his father which will bring the youth in millions to vote for the BJP in these elections. Suresh can stand from either Mumbai or even Hyderabad from where he originally hails after having come away from West Punjab as a refugee to India after the formation of Pakistan in 1947. He can even be fielded from Punjab like actor Vinod Khanna has been from Gurudaspur in Punjab.
Re: BJP manifesto
by JGN on Apr 04, 2009 02:00 PM
All kinds of worships are in fact waste of time and money. I am really wondering whether G0d is a "sarkari babu" to do favour to those who bribe him by way of Poojas, Homas, Pilgrimage, Confessions, Haj, etc!
As per one News Paper reports a few months back, there are more places of worships in Karnataka than "Schools". The condition in other states also may not be much different.
Why can't we spend that money on building Temples of modern civilization (Educational Institutes, Research Centres, Hospitals, etc)??
Re: Re: BJP manifesto
by Undertaker on Apr 04, 2009 02:05 PM
sir no comments. I am not religious eventhough born in a very very religious family but at the same time not an athiest.
Re: Re: Re: BJP manifesto
by JGN on Apr 04, 2009 02:52 PM
Undertaker, I am not a dogmatic atheist. I only wish people restrict their belif within the four walls of their houses or respective places instead of bringing g0d/g0ds on to the streets and creating problems for others.
We should not be bothered about paying taxes too much as compared to srious issues like finishing up of our natural resources and problem of power(electricity) in India. India should have some alternative to cater to the needs of crores of Indians of tommorrow. Almost everyone is involved in Tax cutting ways/investments insurance etc. & "Tax Exemptions promises by BJP" is just to lure us to get votes... it's not long term and good development strategy for our growth.
Re: BJP don't try to fool and lure us ...do real development!!!
by JGN on Apr 04, 2009 01:42 PM
If you are so much bothered about "finishing up our natural resources" implement 2 child norm for all (if not one child as in China). The major porblem in our Country is population explosion.
Also implement Uniform civil Code. Uniform civil code is not meant for the h1ndus only but for all citizens of our Country.
Re: Re: Re: BJP don't try to fool and lure us ...do real develop
by JGN on Apr 04, 2009 01:47 PM
That would be much better!!!!!!!!Give good life to an orphan.
In 1999 and 2004, the BJP did not bring out their own manifesto, because in those days they tried to build up the NDA and so they sought to stress the common programmes and did not put emphasis on the Hindutva agenda (though they secretly maintained the agenda). However, now that the BJP has been deserted by most allies (like TMC, BJD or TDP - JDU is on the way), they now are openly back to the Hindutva agenda, having found that they are not liked by most allies. This proves how much detested the BJP is for its archaic Hindutva agenda!
Re: Deserted by most allies
by JGN on Apr 04, 2009 01:55 PM
Haramohan Roy, are you ready to accept UNIFORM CIVIL CODE for all?? This is one of the "directive principle" of our Constitution. Why the Congress Govt could not implement the same even after ruling for nearly 55 years?? Instead they promultated a retrograde law like Mus1ims wom_en Protection Act in the wake of Shah Bano case!
Re: Deserted by most allies
by Against Pseudos on Apr 04, 2009 01:03 PM
Roy:
Glad to note that Kaangress's allies like Lalloo, Mullayam, Paswan, Pawar, Yechuri, Chatterjee etc. are totally in their support this time around... :)
What does this desertion prove?... ;)
Dude... this is national politics... everyone is flexing their muscles... the coalition dharma that BJP triggered off in 1998 is here to stay and will take a long time to mature...
Re: Deserted by most allies
by Jiggs on Apr 04, 2009 12:40 PM
Haramohan Roy... You got it all wrong. Here's the real reason behind it. BJP is the only VOLUNTEER cadre based party system in India. It is these volunteer's who will not accept anything less then Hindutva. -Rajasthan, Delhi, UP, Bihar, Jharkhand,Orissa,AP, Karnataka,TN,MP,C'garh,Maharashtra,Gujarat party units want Hindutva as the masses demand it. Even if BJP wants they cannot junk it, the BJP voters the middle class will not allow it. -TMC was never with BJP -JD U ample has been written about it, only the elections results will decide who is with them. BTW, did you examine the other 198 issues listed in the Manifesto? or you want to focus only on these two?
Re: Re: Deserted by most allies
by Charles on Apr 04, 2009 12:53 PM
Mr.Jiggs, Your words are the reflection of the dark side of your black heart. Please try to purify your evil spirit first before coming to public.
Re: Re: Re: Deserted by most allies
by Jiggs on Apr 04, 2009 12:58 PM
Charles...What has hurt you more HINDUTVA OR THE FACTS THAT I HAVE STATED? Remember, SECULARISM cannot survive at the expense of Hindutva. Think over the dark side of black heart and introspect that why are Hindus increasingly adopting the hardline stance?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Deserted by most allies
by Charles on Apr 04, 2009 01:06 PM
Mr.Jiggs, Do not mind plase. I want to say my realisation about you that ''It will take more than hundreds of years for people like you to evolve into humanbeings. You still possess some wild genes of those prehistoric baboons.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Deserted by most allies
by Jiggs on Apr 04, 2009 01:16 PM
Charles...I do mind you calling me names in diguise of being polite. Only time shall tell, what is good the INDIC religions or the perverted foreign religious beliefs. Never forget, India will not tolerate SECULARISM AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHER INDIC RELIGIONS.
Re: Re: Deserted by most allies
by pamsask on Apr 04, 2009 12:53 PM
Jiggs you got it all wrong & here's teh real reason behind it. Bharat Jalao Party instigates their so called VOLUNTEERs to create violence. No volunteer will resort to violence if the party head does not sponsor it coz they simply stand to loose their volunteership if volunteers do anything without their leaders consent. Not masses but religious zealots & bigots like u who cannot see anything beyond majority / Hindu / caste syndrome demand that the Bharat Jalao Party create bloody riots nationwide. If the Bharat Jalao Party wants it can easily junk it but then they will loose their vote bank. It is not the middle class that will not allow it but the top mngt cadre of the Bharat Jalao Party that will not allow it simply coz they loose their vote bank. The very fact that a violent reminder is included in the manifesto means that the focus of the Bharat Jalao Party will always be & has been spreading communal violence that has killed more than 4000 innocent Indians.
Re: Re: Re: Deserted by most allies
by Jiggs on Apr 04, 2009 12:56 PM
pamsask...You will want to believe what your heart says. I know the truth. So please keep your views to yourselves.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Deserted by most allies
by Joe Mathew on Apr 04, 2009 01:19 PM
If you know the truth, then rebut Pamsask's charges. If not, then don't ask Pamsak to keep his views to himself. Either shut him up or keep your views to yourself.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Deserted by most allies
by Jiggs on Apr 04, 2009 03:44 PM
Joe Mathew and Charles...Do you the history of Communal riots in India? By this I dont mean the DATES, by the reasons behind it? It is only then we can have a debate. I can sense the opportunist skulduggery in your reply to me, however I am letting it pass,pitying on the CHOICE of knowledge you are hiding behind. Joe ...Keep you foul mouth shut, you sound like a very confused person.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Deserted by most allies
by prakash on Apr 04, 2009 01:11 PM
we do not support com..munal congress who ki..lls sikhs..support rahul gandhi who raped devi...support jugdish tytler...so alternate i BJP so i we support it ...and if Ba..bri masjid was religious place so is ram sethu...so if congress can say there is no ram and ram sethu can be broken..so what is issue if babri masjid was broken...i respect all relgion and all relgious place..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Deserted by most allies
by JGN on Apr 04, 2009 01:37 PM
Joe Mathew, all riots in independent India were started by the minorities and when they get in the same coin, they pretend that they are the victims.
The minorities cannot blackmail the majority in the name of their re1igion.
India ins the only Country which provided shelter and food for the persecuted population from the world over (be it Parsis, Je_ws, Bengladeshis, Bahaiis or any one else). Then what happend to our tolerance? Do you think that the yoke of secularism can rest on the shoulders of one section of the society alone? We all have to strive for peace to prevail in our Country.
You cannot expect the majority to keep quite while some people are busy converting the dealits/tribals in the name of non-existent g0ds/heavens or some others want to ki11 all kaf1rs for establishing their kaliphate/seventh century law.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Deserted by most allies
by Joe Mathew on Apr 04, 2009 01:23 PM
Since, the 1984 genocide by the Congress, most, if not all, genocides and riots have been propogated by the Sangh Parivar and its various factions. So, COngress is the lesser of the 2 evils since its been pretty much riot free since 25 years whereas the BJP and the Sangh have taken over the Congress' rioting and genocidal agenda.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Deserted by most allies
by Charles on Apr 04, 2009 01:35 PM
Sangh and RSS are the products of our Cha Cha Nehru. They killed Gandhi, Shyama Prasad Mukharjee and so many more. Then Nehru ruled India under protectio of Sangh and RSS making separate congress party to fool whole nation. Nehru and Sangh leaders used SPM's photo and name to perform all sorts of crime.
Re: Re: Re: Deserted by most allies
by JGN on Apr 04, 2009 01:52 PM
pamsask, the yoke of secularism cannot rest on the shoulders of one section of the society only. In Kerala the Churches have issued "Pastoral Letters" asking X'tians NOT TO VOTE FOR LEFT FRONT as they are "non-believers"!! All 1slamic groups are also against them. Forget about Bharat Jalao Party, why you guys are against the a secular party like CPI (M)??
A group of BJP and RSS activists broke into my fencing and attcked my family saying you are outsider and you have to move from here. They demolished my Kali Temple at my couryard and ocupied my house. Next day morning I was transferred to another city at my brother in laws place. This is the attitude of BJP people towards other Hindus. Now a North Indian has occupied my cultivated land and shack.
Re: Still I remember those days
by Ghantaji on Apr 04, 2009 12:18 PM
अंग्रेजो ने लुटा, मुगलों नें लुटा, सब बाहर वाले थे- हमनें सबको माफ़ कर दिया। अपनों को माफ़ करो। मैं माफ़ी माँगता हुं अगर आप को कोई बदसलुकी सहनी पडी। सडक पर अगर कोई लुट ले तो सब राहगीर लुटेरे नहीं होते। उन बुरे अच्छे लोगों में हम और आप ही हैं।
Re: Re: Still I remember those days
by PP Biltu on Apr 04, 2009 12:45 PM
Please Ghantaji, do not say sorry. I know all are not same. However, I learnt some lesson as failure teaches us what is our fault, so I took an oath not to build Kali Temple again in my life.
Re: Still I remember those days
by Bhupinder Singh on Apr 04, 2009 12:17 PM
These mother fuker Biharis and UPans are creating all these problems for looting other hinds is called BJP
Re: Re: Still I remember those days
by JGN on Apr 04, 2009 01:45 PM
Bhupinder Singh, are your a worshipper of "the most merciful creator"?? What a great culture!!!! Btw do you think every one do the same thing you do to your mo_ther??
