No body understands the situation of a game as he does and he has shown how keen he is about trying to be in the winning side. But cricket is a team game and the team must have the skills and ability to do well. In the India condition this team has exceptional skills and the new talent that is groomed has lived up to that standards. But, the same team will struggle in foreign conditions because beyond the bat, ball, stumps and umpire everything else is different. Atmosphere, pitch, opponent skills and crowd support. Of all this the opponent will be in his native skill exploitation territory and will have the so called home advantage. All these double century heroes will score a paltry in those conditions simply because they do no know it. But batsmen like Kohli, Tendulkar and to an extend Pujara will try to apply themselves and will try to prove their worth to the cause of the game. So, to be really a champion side, team should be molded to perform in any condition....easier said (wrote) than done. Dhoni will surely attempt to do it.
I want to know from Mr.Captain that what is your plan to accommodate Wridhhiman Saha in the team? How long he has to prove himself? What is your backup plan to prepare a good Wicket-keeper Batsman in future?
Re: How long Wridhhiman Saha to wait?
by ASHISH KUMAR on Mar 27, 2013 02:58 PM
career of patel, kartik,saha & many more wicketkeepr batsman is over in all 3 formats as long as add agency magnet polkitician MSD is there
I praise Dravid for his decission to retire once he realised his reflexes slowed down as such reading length or reaching ball became problem for him,in spite of performing better than other celebrities in England he retired.But after that Sachin played lot many matches and awfully got bowled out by lesser bowlers that to in home condition and yet shamelessly holds the key position and the selectors are scared of talking to him.The game is bigger than an individual and at 40 Sachin can never work wonders ands is blocking the entry of a talent.
Re: New young players.
by Rajesh Nair on Mar 27, 2013 02:20 PM
100 crore people and one game to hue and cry, that also wins only bcoz playing in home condition. What about football, volleyball?? no stamina?? stamina only for hue and cry. Great cricket analysts..hahaha
Dhoni is a born captain and his tricks are good in keeping lazy fellows out of the team.. we need consistency if not its better to get out of the team without any hesitation, the players who are really not fit get out of the team get ready and come back. Very nice policy. Good captain for India ever seen before...
Re: CRICKET IS FOR YOUNG AND ENERGETIC TEAM NOT FOR SENIORS !
by ASHISH KUMAR on Mar 27, 2013 03:00 PM
Dhoni as a batsman Test Avg over all 39.0, Test avg overseas 28.0, No overseas century or match winning inning in test carrer even after playing 61 test. T-20 Strike rate- 113, No fifty or match winning inning in entire career even after playing 42 matches ODI- Good avg manipulated due to no. of not out innings & manipulative batting position. Even in ODI most runs scored on flat indian wicket against team like Pak/SLK & no overseas century. Dhoni overseas ODI avg is just 39 with no match winning inning. If you remove his no. of not out innings(52 times), his avg drops less than 35 even in ODI. As a wicketkeeper- Dropped catches in almost every match.
Dhoni test average outside In WI 2006, 24 In SA 2006, 26 In AUS 2007, 17.62 In SA 2011, 35.8 ( one inning of 90 when styen/morkel was kept out of attack for 2-3 hrs) In WI 2011- 19.5 ( score of 0,16,2, 5 & 74(only one good inning when WI was operating with bowlers like bishoo/chandrapaul & front line bowler rampaul/shammi etc was resting due to injury). In Eng 2011- 30.0 In Aus 2012- 20.0 As a captain good record only on indian pitches. Overseas he has lost more test matches(09) than what he won(05) Win includes SLK, Bng, WI & NZL. All other wicketkeeper batsman like Mat prior, Mclumn, Deviller, sangarkara are worldclass & have many match winning overseas inning while mediocre dhoni has none. He is simply made by add agency, media & political fans by hyping his small succ
Re: CRICKET IS FOR YOUNG AND ENERGETIC TEAM NOT FOR SENIORS !
by Talisman on Mar 27, 2013 11:39 AM
AS. The guy is a decent leader. He was on his way to be a great one. But now is lazy
When you are rich and successful, you are right, you are handsome and you sing well too. Dhoni was almost discarded, then he turned around and made Team India proud. All those who cried for his blood is singing his praise, esp the retired seniors.
Re: When you are successful...
by deepak on Mar 27, 2013 11:14 AM
Rahul dravid is retired and he came out in full support of Dhoni, he even said Dhoni is the right man to lead india...... so which retired seniors r u reffering to?
Re: Re: When you are successful...
by Talisman on Mar 27, 2013 11:30 AM
Dravid never had da courage to speak his mind. Dhoni is a decent but flawed leader.
In today's age, the word "building" refers to a totally different connotation. The crux is : "With disproportionate money available for easy grabbing; the adulation that players are guaranteed within a disproportionately short period; the extra comforts showered disproportionately on contrived achievements; the disproportionately demigod status bestowed on even transient (one time only) big performance; the disproportionately refulgent glare on players in social gatherings ... and the list can be added - automatically SELF MOTIVATES any selected player with no grooming needed at all Tech advancements have also made it that easier for everyone to flourish.
Compare this with our REAL LEGENDS : Sunil Gavaskar (Batting); Kapil Dev (Pace bowling); Prasanna, Bedi, Chandrasekhar and Venkata Raghavan (Spin quartet) - Theirs is in Churchill's words , "Blood, Toil, Sweat & Tears". Today's one series/match wonders in most favorable of all circumstances are not fit to hold a candle to these MODEL LEGENDS.
Or take Mike Brearly of England (with little to speak of his test experience before being captain); Lee Germon of New Zealand (again little before captaincy) - each brought to the world the TRUE GREATS in IAN BOTHAM (England) and FLEMING (New Zealand) under their astute tutelage.
Can you single out one cricketer to have come out under DHONI's tutelage in India's Cricket horizon.
Reality: Players develop themselves; THEY NEED ONLY OPPORTUNITIES TO
Re: Cachinnate loudly !!!
by Telley Gone on Mar 27, 2013 07:56 AM
Contd: If Dhoni's achievement can be singled out aphoristically it is that he set the trend for " ANYBODY CAN LEAD THE TEAM" in Indian Cricket.
Re: seniors vs juniors
by Sunil Vaidya on Mar 26, 2013 11:13 PM
Dhoni-tests played 77 india won 33 india lost 18 ---odis played 219 india won 123 india lost 82 Gambhir-tests played 54 india won 24 india lost 15---odis played 147 india won 94 india lost 43 Raina-tests played 17 india won 7 india lost 5—odis played 159 india won 93 india lost 59 Pujara-tests played 13 india won 9 india lost 2---odis none so far Kohli-tests played 18 india won 8 india lost 6---odis played 98 india won 58 india lost 34 Praveen kumar-tests played 6 india won 1 india lost 3---odis played 68 india won 44 india lost 20 Jadeja-tests played 5 india won 4 lost 0----odis played 65 india won 35 india lost 27 Ashwin-tests played 16 india won 9 india lost 5---odis played 48 india won 29 india lost 16 Mishra-tests played 13 india won 7 india lost 3---odis played 15 india won 9 india lost 4
Re: Re: seniors vs juniors
by Sunil Vaidya on Mar 26, 2013 11:14 PM
Ojha-tests played 22 india won 14 india lost 3---odis played 18 india won 9 india lost 9 Sreesanth-tests played 27 india won 10 india lost 8---odis played 53 india won 28 india lost 21 Ishant-tests played 51 india won 22 india lost 15 ---odis played 55 india won 31 india lost 20 Irfan-tests played 29 india won 13 india lost 6---odis played 120 india won 60 india lost 53
Murali vijay-test played 16 india won 12 india lost 1---odis played 11 india won 7 india lost 4 Bhuvaneshwar kumar-tests played 4 india won 4 india lost 0---odis played 8 india won 4 india lost 4 Shami Ahmed-tests none so far---odis played 5 india won 4 india lost 1 Rohit Sharma-tests none so far—odis played 88 india won 49 india lost 34 Umesh yadav-tests played 9 india won 5 india lost 4---odis played 17 india won 9 india lost 7 Piyush chawla-tests played 3 india won 2 india lost 0---odis played 25 india won 16 india lost 8
India has no real fast bowlers that you can call upon when you tour SA or Australia or England. Dhoni knew that and he had personally led the team that got blanked out 0-4 twice. Yet, he has done nothing about it. He supports this IShi Sharma that has played more matches than Kapil Dev and still takes 1 wicket every 60 overs.
India has found one good batsman in Pujara. To give credit to Dhoni for Pujara is like insulating Pujara and his hard work. Read about Dhawan. He has been working and correcting his errors for the last several years since he got dropped after a couple of ODI matches. To give credit to Dhoni in finding these guys does not make sense.
I am not blaming Dhoni here. But the author of this article and rediff who have nothing to do but to create fantasies like this without having a clue about sports.
Re: Re: Dhoni needs to raise his standards and do better to build
by Talisman on Mar 27, 2013 09:58 AM
IAb: It is because of fellows like you who hardly understand sport, the indian media survives. You obviously have a problem with math as you seem to tell us one mango is better than two mangos. Back to school for you.
Cricket is a team sport and hence any win is not one man's win. This is wrong.
Hard core fans think long-term and want india test team to be #1. IPL fans are excited about one series or even one IPL match. So, you know where u stand.
if you have an opinion worth hearing, perhaps you shld use a little bit of that something between ur ears, if that exists instead of calling others names.
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either 'cause u are too lazy to get up from your chair or
Re: Re: Re: Dhoni needs to raise his standards and do better to b
by Rajesh Nair on Mar 27, 2013 01:38 PM
good joke @ AB, its bcoz dhoni played in home condition. There is no point of value in ur arguments. If dhoni again played in foreign soil it will be more 0- 2 defeats. hahaha. U r such a little weed who dont knw anything about sport. go and kill urself weed. It is ur attitude to sicide after defeats, not all
Victory.. worst Ausis team..only one batsman who can play agasint spin.. only one bowler..in spinning track.. average team India won.. same tram visting South africa??
