Yes great young team build by dhoni lost 3 consecutive wcup T-20 in 1st round itself by loosing almost all msuper 8 matches. Plyaer like pujara, kohli,sachin, dravid, laxman,kumble etc are not made by any captain but themselves. Its political mindset in india that people always think some one has made someone. On merit dhoni never desrve to play test cricket for 77 test based on his overseas performance as batsman & wikketkeeper
Dhoni as a batsman Test Avg over all 39.0, Test avg overseas 28.0, No overseas century or match winning inning in test carrer even after playing 61 test. T-20 Strike rate- 113, No fifty or match winning inning in entire career even after playing 42 matches ODI- Good avg manipulated due to no. of not out innings & manipulative batting position. Even in ODI most runs scored on flat indian wicket against team like Pak/SLK & no overseas century. Dhoni overseas ODI avg is just 39 with no match winning inning. If you remove his no. of not out innings(52 times), his avg drops less than 35 even in ODI. As a wicketkeeper- Dropped catches in almost every match.
Dhoni test average outside In WI 2006, 24 In SA 2006, 26 In AUS 2007, 17.62 In SA 2011, 35.8 ( one inning of 90 when styen/morkel was kept out of attack for 2-3 hrs) In WI 2011- 19.5 ( score of 0,16,2, 5 & 74(only one good inning when WI was operating with bowlers like bishoo/chandrapaul & front line bowler rampaul/shammi etc was resting due to injury). In Eng 2011- 30.0 In Aus 2012- 20.0 As a captain good record only on indian pitches. Overseas he has lost more test matches(09) than what he won(05) Win includes SLK, Bng, WI & NZL. All other wicketkeeper batsman like Mat prior, Mclumn, Deviller, sangarkara are worldclass & have many match winning overseas inning while mediocre dhoni has none. He is simply made by add agency, media & political fans by hyping his small succ
Re: Dhoni is a waste hyped by media
by nishant tyagi on Mar 27, 2013 03:03 PM
Dude Chill Mat Prior, Mclum, Deviller have not won a world cup for there country..Dhoni has won twice one in 50 and one in 20..they say when you criticize someone it is good to mention few good things the same time.
Re: Re: Dhoni is a waste hyped by media
by SandyNilam on Mar 27, 2013 03:12 PM
Good 20% won worldcup well played team Bad 80% has never contributed consistantly
Re: Re: Dhoni is a waste hyped by media
by ASHISH KUMAR on Mar 27, 2013 03:36 PM
Mr tyagi- captain doesn't win cup. This type of nonnsense logic works in india only. If captain can win wcup how under same captain india lost 3 consecutive t-20 wcups with exit in 1st round itself & loosing 90% of super 8 matches. Even in 2007 wcup (which was fluke win due to new format)- MSD performance with bat was very average. In next 3 t-20 wcup also his batting performance was pathetic. Even 2011 wcup india won courtsy- home condition & form of sachin, zaheer & yuvi. His batting performance was below average except for final. Wcups are win by team & players not by captain. No one says yunu khan won world cup or collingwood won wcup. Its only political mindset indian fans say dhoni won cup. Fact is deviller, prior, sanga,mclumn etc has won many matches even outside their country with bat & world class batsman while dhoni has never performed well outside india even after getting so many chances because he is a mediore player
Re: Re: Re: Dhoni is a waste hyped by media
by karthikeyan on Mar 27, 2013 04:31 PM
You dont understand cricket i guess nor you do not watch cricket it seems... U did not watch a ODI Matches in Australia, where Dhoni hit a Very BIG six to win a Match in Mckay's Over???... Chill out Dude... R u from Delhi/Mumbai/Chennai/Calcutta????, so not liking a guy from a Small village captaining India.... Dhoni has won more matches than any other Batsman while Chasing... Dhoni has the better Average than Sachin..... Even Ganguly won many abroad Test Matches, but against Bagladesh/Zimbabwe/WestIndies.... Dude really feel pity on you... Statistics always speaks.. dont try to create your own statistics and comment in a public place.... Dhoni is the best we have,,, and he will remain the best we had too.... DHONI Rockz.....
Re: Re: Re: Re: Dhoni is a waste hyped by media
by M Dhoni on Mar 28, 2013 02:42 PM
Dear Kartikeyan, Dont talk about manipulative average. Even Bevan has a higher average than Richards, so does it mean that he is a better batsman.
FYI Dhoni's runs per innings is less than SRT runs per innings.
And how many centuries Dhoni hit outside asia. ZERO.
Plz mention even5matches in which Dhoni played when team was struggling. He always scores runs when team is in a comfortable position and other batsman(specially SRT,Gambhir,Yuvi) have already set the platform. GET your facts right because STATISTICS ALWAYS SPEAK and stats say that Dhoni can play only in subcontinent. Even Ratra,Kumble,Agarkar and other asian batsman have century OVERSEAS which useless flattrackbully Dhoni HASNT :)
Dhoni as a batsman Test Avg over all 39.0, Test avg overseas 28.0, No overseas century or match winning inning in test carrer even after playing 61 test. T-20 Strike rate- 113, No fifty or match winning inning in entire career even after playing 42 matches ODI- Good avg manipulated due to no. of not out innings & manipulative batting position. Even in ODI most runs scored on flat indian wicket against team like Pak/SLK & no overseas century. Dhoni overseas ODI avg is just 39 with no match winning inning. If you remove his no. of not out innings(52 times), his avg drops less than 35 even in ODI. As a wicketkeeper- Dropped catches in almost every match.
Dhoni test average outside In WI 2006, 24 In SA 2006, 26 In AUS 2007, 17.62 In SA 2011, 35.8 ( one inning of 90 when styen/morkel was kept out of attack for 2-3 hrs) In WI 2011- 19.5 ( score of 0,16,2, 5 & 74(only one good inning when WI was operating with bowlers like bishoo/chandrapaul & front line bowler rampaul/shammi etc was resting due to injury). In Eng 2011- 30.0 In Aus 2012- 20.0 As a captain good record only on indian pitches. Overseas he has lost more test matches(09) than what he won(05) Win includes SLK, Bng, WI & NZL. All other wicketkeeper batsman like Mat prior, Mclumn, Deviller, sangarkara are worldclass & have many match winning overseas inning while mediocre dhoni has none. He is simply made by add agency, media & political fans by hyping his small succ
Can anyone tell me what is Dhoni's age ? Anxiously waiting for his retirement...Also not so optimistic on this seeing Sachin.. By the way when is Srini Mama's tenure ending ?
BCCI has done dealing with australian cricket board for 1000crores for losing the series with 4-0. Now our country ba**ds will watch with more enthusiastic all IPL matches which is gambling and mode of circulating and converting blackmoney to white. Shame on our country citizens. We have become such a foolish people and anyone can deviate or use as per their wish. We are just pans of these corrupt system.
There are plenty of problems which are burning our country like population,unemployment,inflation etc. Moreover a very big drought will come this summer. There will be absolutely no water even for drinking in majority parts of country. Power shortage, I think the whole country will be under dark for minimum 10hrs in this summer. People don't want their day to day issues to be sorted and simply diverting their attention towards this gambling game.SHAME ON OUR'S. WE ARE NOT THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE OF OUR NEXT GENERATION AND WILL DIE ONE DAY SIMPLY WASTING OUR TIME.
What is Tendulkar, who has outlived his utility to the Indian team, doing in this `new young India' team? How long this baggage has to be carried just because no one has the guts to tell him: "Thank you for your yeoman service to Indian cricket. Kindly leave gracefully now". It is indeed pathetic that an individual is made greater than the game. This can happen only in INDIA!
Re: What is Tendulkar doing....
by Rajesh Nair on Mar 27, 2013 02:17 PM
you go and look after your family. He has brought so many magic moments for India, which none of this young players can even dream off. Your parents brought you up and bcoz they are old, will u leave them?? or try for younger parents. tendulkar is someone never can replace, he is an exception. Leave him alone. If somebody elsse comes to his place nothing is gonna change. India will get defeated in foreign pitches. Pipe dreamerss
Re: Re: What is Tendulkar doing....
by Solomon on Mar 27, 2013 02:32 PM
Hahahahahahahah...... good logic. So, the BCCI is taking care of the aged karodpathi Tendulkar in his old age by allowing him to add a few more crores to his `hard earned' money! Come on man, grow up! Tendulkar is a professional cricketer who has made crores through the game. He is now a liability to the team and must be weeded out. It is pathetic to watch him struggle against even net bowlers like Lyon. For his own good Tendulkar must leave and his son will take care of him in his old age. Do not worry, Tendulkar will never be poor or left alone in his old age in this cricket crazy country!
Re: Re: Re: What is Tendulkar doing....
by Ramesh G on Mar 27, 2013 03:02 PM
solomon, the name is actually for the wise one.....how come you are using this name?
Re: Re: Re: Re: What is Tendulkar doing....
by Solomon on Mar 27, 2013 03:06 PM
Because I am wise enough to realise that Tendulkar is now a liability to Indian cricket and must quit. Even Kapil Dev has today urged `over the hill' Tendulkar to embrace `painful' retirement! These are the words of Kapil Dev picked up from the afternoon paper!
Re: What is Tendulkar doing....
by ASHISH KUMAR on Mar 27, 2013 02:52 PM
if garbage like dhoni can play for 10 yrs of test cricket(he is not fit to play even in club of any overseas team), sachin should allowed to play even for 50 yrs
Re: Re: What is Tendulkar doing....
by ASHISH KUMAR on Mar 27, 2013 02:55 PM
tendulkar is not playing test for money. If money is the criteria, he will play IPL only which feteches 100 times more money than test cricket. Money criteria apply well for BCCI damad dhoni who is not sacked even after 10 out of 13 test loss & 3 consecutive t-20 wcup 1st round exit
Re: Re: Re: What is Tendulkar doing....
by Solomon on Mar 27, 2013 03:03 PM
If Tendulkar is not playing test cricket for money, let him announce so and say he is playing free for the sake of his mother country and its glory! No professional plays any game because he loves it and money is just a by-product! Every professional, including Tendulkar, play the game for personal glory and the money that goes with it. Remove the money from cricket and everyone will turn to some other sport where they can earn more money. Money makes the mare go and Tendulkar (who is a mere human) is no exception to it!
Re: Re: Re: Re: What is Tendulkar doing....
by SandyNilam on Mar 27, 2013 03:17 PM
Solomon great idea u can implement the same in ur life & work without salary & say ur contributing to INDIA
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What is Tendulkar doing....
by Solomon on Mar 27, 2013 04:02 PM
Dear Sandy Nilam: Where I work, non-performers are sacked, unlike Tendulkar. No one is retained based on past reputation, unlike Tendulkar. And I know many people working in NGOs without any salary and serving the society.
Re: Re: What is Tendulkar doing....
by karthikeyan on Mar 27, 2013 05:29 PM
I agree with Solomon.... Becoz you Peoples Blames Dhoni even he wins or scores 200... then y not u peoples protecting or not blaming sachin... ridiculous u peoples are...
Dhoni is good bad? Prove in australia, england and south africa. Dumb people will forget what happnd with england. What is there to celebrate?? the ashame and humiliation happnd with england and australlia is too high to forget. How people can forget easily?? This is why India is still a thrid world country, bcozof people who forget things easily on little little happiness. They live in a world of fantasies like a frog in a pond. Grow up people, Pity on so called young talent, canthey bat hardly for 2 days in bouncyy pitches. show it and bark
Re: Who Cares???
by ASHISH KUMAR on Mar 27, 2013 02:56 PM
also India lost 3 consecutive t-20 cups in 1st round under MSD loosing all super-8 matches except one. Any other captain coul;d have been sacked but this politician is allowed to lead in t-20 for 42 matches where he failed with bat every time with no MOM or 50 in his mane
