if the 3 oldies r there n still v lose the series 8-0 overseas with 2 whitewashes, then its better to lose with new comers n youngsters atleast that vl b our investment for future ckt in ind.
how the 3 oldies r running even after their expiry date.
Re: need to retire 3 oldies.
by anil babladi on Jan 31, 2012 11:19 AM
Vinay if you are replaced for your age in work inspite of giving your best 300 out of 365 days then how would you feel? You would feel betrayed...right? These guys are the reason why we left a part of our life for cricket. Show some respect. I am willing to see India lose few more before these guys hang their boots.
Re: Re: need to retire 3 oldies.
by Rebel on Jan 31, 2012 01:54 PM
" I am willing to see India lose few more before these guys hang their boots " is exactly the mentality of an average Indian for whom Individual comes before society and nation . Not surprising that we have so many "GODS" in the country and willing to add some more to the list .
Also it is not surprising that we have never excelled in any team sport , neither in Olympics nor anywhere else .
This is exaclty the mindset which has ensured that despite great individual talent we can never ever be an Australia ( which dominated World cricket for 2 decades ) nor West Indies of the past .
Hang those posters of your "GODS" and worship them while the world ridicules our performance and attitude .
Re: Re: Re: need to retire 3 oldies.
by S Shrikanth on Feb 02, 2012 10:01 AM
Don't get disheartened my friend. Leander won Australian open doubles title at the same time on the same soil where Indian cricket team met its waterloo.
Yes, Leander's achievement is individual, but it does put the tri-color high in the sky.
Re: Re: need to retire 3 oldies.
by Piyush Dhangar on Jan 31, 2012 09:46 PM
Anil, here we are not talking of an average Indian who is loses job has nothing to eat, these cricketers have earned in crores and also even if you are performing at 60 you have to retire, in Sports late 30s is right time to retire as your body does not support your mind, also you said if you are performing then, sorry to say but these guys are not performing anymore.
This is surprizing, while he could buy 99, why is it not possible for him to buy just another, may be aussie economy is too strong now and aussie dollar is cosliest in history.
Re: Sachin has lot of money, wonder why he is not able to buy 100
by SHREESHA RANGANATH on Jan 30, 2012 08:27 PM
May be his new house is not lucky for him. He should consult a vastu expert!
Re: Re: Sachin has lot of money, wonder why he is not able to buy
by vinay on Jan 31, 2012 12:26 AM
what abt failure in eng tour which was before shifting to new house?
ppl r not talking abt sachin's failures there in eng also.
Re: Re: Re: Sachin has lot of money, wonder why he is not able to
by Against Pseudos on Jan 31, 2012 03:58 AM
Vinay:
Good point. He failed in Eng compared to his standards...
High scores of 91 and 56 in England and 73 and 80 in Australia, with series averages of 34 and 35 indeed show that he failed compared to his usually high standards as in South Africa series average of 58.16... :)
The way the ex players react is something bafflesme .Laxman ,Dravid ,Sachin no doubt have done yemon servie - no one can ever question .We need to move - skill plus reflexes are key in such conditions . The way Indians played only shows total lack of imagination - every one is glued to the crease no foot work nothing .They will fail even against quality spin we see in Pakistan team . As far as our pace is concerned the less we talk the better every over is with two bad balls minimum - fails to understand Do they think ? It is time we concentrate on sport side and leave business side - look one dayers will also be a wash out with aus may be we will do well with the other useless team SL and come to final .Unless BCCI is able to fix something.
well, Indian batsmen pathetic display doesn't mean that aussie bowling attack is world class.. Just a year ago, the same bowlers were taken to the cleaners by the english batsmen... It's more to do with india's inability to tackle decent pace attack on bouncy green pitches.. the real challenges for aussie bowlers lie ahead..
Re: India's batsmen meek surrender don't make aussie attack great
by Jai Hind on Jan 30, 2012 06:03 PM
True the Indian batsmen and dhonis captaincy was terrible.
Re: India's batsmen meek surrender don't make aussie attack great
by Gurjot Singh on Jan 30, 2012 11:31 PM
You have a point that Australia is not the best team. They are re-building. They can be beaten by England, South Africa and possibly Pakistan. They had a hard time against NZ. However, this just shows how weak India is. Perhaps India, WI, Bangladesh and Zim are the bottom 4 teams.
Re: Re: India's batsmen meek surrender don't make aussie attack g
by jaguar on Jan 30, 2012 11:42 PM
Haa haa.. well, thats true.. as far as TEST cricket is concerned India has come down to the last 4 teams.. we need to go thru the painful re-building process now.
Boycott Cricket at all centres. Playing with emotions of fans by bringing politics in games and stage managing everythig for money. Only those who think from aaaaaaaS , go to watch CRICKET.
Indians are unfortunately very sensitive and emotional. They cannot restrain themselves. Dhony said after winning world cup, supporters heap praise when we win, but we face wrath in defeat. Sachin is 'Bhagvan' for some who demanded 'Bharat Ratna'for him. As his 100th century eluding him, his supporters are disappointed. No doubt, he will get his 100th century while playing in India. He may then decide to retire. Presently two factors for this failure in Aus. 1. BCCI, for programming IPL and too much cricket 2. Players love for money rather than Nation's prestige. Solution- Bring back Saurav Ganguly as coach, if not as captain. Bobby simpson was called back from retirement to lead Aus against India. Saurav will be very helpful in the resurrection of the Indian team.
sachin - he is become too arrogant. something like "no one can dare touch me" attitude.
rahul - he has become too timid, suppressing the freedom to play strokes and keeping himself tight..signs of old age..
laxman - not got his priorities right. become over weight, cant run, cant field properly, cant run between wickets.
the first is directly holding the country to ransom..second and third are simply following the shadows of sachin, ie., as long as sachin is there, we also will be there..
guru greg exactly wanted to shed this kind of attitude in our players, including sachin..but he was made the villian..except for dhoni and dravid, no one supported him..viru was teh first one to attack and that shows how come dhoni and sehwag can together achieve our goals..
Re: rahul sachin laxman
by rajeesh kumar on Jan 31, 2012 09:26 AM
The great guru greg also made Irfan Pathan and Virendar Sehwag go out of the team when they are out of form. If axing the out of form players policy was followed by the Australians, Hussey and Ponting won't be there in their team for the series and India would have won the first test atleast where the two half centuries from Ponting and one from Hussey definitely turned the match on his head. Are Ponting and Hussey youngsters.
dhoni's comments after 4-0 whitewash in england "if you see the past couple of years our bowlers have bowled maximum nunber of overs as compared to other playing nations, so automatically fatigue factor is there"
Re: dhoni's excuse
by veerapuram dharan on Jan 30, 2012 01:35 PM
when the opposition scores 600 consistently, obviously the bowlers would have bowled more..
Re: dhoni's excuse
by Shikari Shambu on Jan 31, 2012 08:05 AM
Dhoni should also understand that our bowlers have bowled for only 1 innings unlike Aus/England bowlers who had to bowl for 2 full innings :) For the Eng/Aus bowlers, they had a tough job to use pace combined with line & length. For our bowlers, it was not at all a problem. They lack pace, line & length. The only pick of this series was Umesh Yadav in the bowling dept.
