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Acid test for Ashwin and Ojha; curious case of No 6


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Saravanan Subramanian
Down Under
by Saravanan Subramanian on Nov 29, 2011 10:03 AM  | Hide replies

Suddenly, I am seeing too frequent use of Down Under for Australia. In last couple of articles from Rediff, the word "Australia" is more or less completely replaced by "Down Under" - looks very much intentional - but not sure why.

Looks like rediff has suddenly got obsessed with this word.


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Against Pseudos
Re: Down Under
by Against Pseudos on Nov 30, 2011 04:48 AM
Next time you hear the word Kiwis, or Poms, or "The land of the rising Sun", "Iron Man of India" or the "financial capital of India" etc., protest with the same vigour...

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Hanumanji Prasad
My Playing 11
by Hanumanji Prasad on Nov 29, 2011 10:02 AM  | Hide replies

My selection for Indian Team's playing 11 against Australia as follows:
1.Sehwag
2.Gambir
3.Dravid
4.Sachin
5.Laxman
6.Kohli
7.Dhoni
8.Ashwin
9.Zaheer / Yadav
10.Varun Aaron
11.Ishant Sharma

P.S.Aaron and Umesh Yadav will trouble the Middle and lower batting order as they both are consistently clocking 140 /kmp.We need these kind of bowlers in Australian conditions.


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punter ponting
Re: My Playing 11
by punter ponting on Nov 29, 2011 10:06 AM
Jai ho Hanumanji........

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veerapuram dharan
Re: My Playing 11
by veerapuram dharan on Nov 29, 2011 10:10 AM
hanumanji, excellent alternative for the 9th position..we now onwards should see zaheer with microscopic lens..

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veerapuram dharan
bhajji
by veerapuram dharan on Nov 29, 2011 10:01 AM

he has got the action of a spinner but has the heart of an aggressive fast bowler..being a typical punjabi, he always confronts players with his physical and verbal approaches rather than showing it in action on the field..may be his supporters thought it is this quality that is needed against aus. but, typically we have seen all over the world that performance on the field speaks more than non cricketing gestures...let him take rest for a while and being a typical punjabi, he will come back with vengeance..remember bedi being a punjabi still used his mind to outwit the batsmen and not through verbals or physical contacts...

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Zero h
India will win this series 2-0
by Zero h on Nov 29, 2011 09:59 AM  | Hide replies

but we want a fully fit ZAK for that. He can make the difference.

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veerapuram dharan
Re: India will win this series 2-0
by veerapuram dharan on Nov 29, 2011 10:24 AM
good spirit..we can do that and we have to be relentlessly aggressive..common india, get the heads of aussies..

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raghavadesikan
My playing 11 for Australia!
by raghavadesikan on Nov 29, 2011 09:34 AM  | Hide replies

1) Sehwag
2) Gambhir
3) Dravid/Solid
4) Sachin
5) Laxman
6) Kohli
7) Dhoni
8) Ashwin
9) Ojha
10)Umesh Yadav/Varun
11)Ishant/Zaheer
12)Saha

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punter ponting
Re: My playing 11 for Australia!
by punter ponting on Nov 29, 2011 09:40 AM
abe gadhe, 2 spinners in aussie, did you thought pitch there are your backyards dust bowl

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raghavadesikan
Re: Re: My playing 11 for Australia!
by raghavadesikan on Nov 29, 2011 09:45 AM
Mr. Duplicate Ponting...Aussies are good against pacers...Two pacers will do for them...Shane Warne was key for Aus success in Australia other than McGrath...moreover at present we have variety in the spin dept. think n speak...

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RAJU CHAVAN
Re: My playing 11 for Australia!
by RAJU CHAVAN on Nov 29, 2011 09:46 AM
PAGAL SACHIN KO KYU LIYA, NEITHER HE IS MATCH SAVER OR MATCH WINNER. HE IS WASTING HIS TIME AS WELL AS TALENT OF YOUNG CRICKETERS IF SACHIN HITS 100TH. CENTURY THAT MAY BE CONVERT IN TO HIS FARWELL PARTY TO SAY GOOD BY INDIAN CRICKET., THAT IS WHY HE IS NOT GOING FOR 100 PURPOSLY. EVEN K. SHRIKANT WANTS TO DO BY HIM AT THE EARLIEST, BECAUSE ELIGEBLE CANDIDATES ARE WAITING ON BENCH TO GO SACHIN. HE IS GOING TO PLAY ANATHER 50 TEST MATCHES TO CLMPLETE HIS 100TH. CENTURY. HE IS WAISTING YOUNG TALENT WHICH IS WAITING ON BENCH OF HIS GOING. I THINK SACHIN IS WAITING HIS SON ARJUN TO TAKE HIS PLACE

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Tushar Attarde
Re: Re: My playing 11 for Australia!
by Tushar Attarde on Nov 29, 2011 10:15 AM
wow... u r so smart...

if u think so pls buzz off. when ur commenting on sachin it sounds like...

Kaha raja Bhoj(sachin)... Kaha gangu T...(u)....

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Against Pseudos
Re: Re: My playing 11 for Australia!
by Against Pseudos on Nov 30, 2011 04:48 AM
Raju Chavan:

I think you should immediately start learning about cricket... :)

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veerapuram dharan
Re: My playing 11 for Australia!
by veerapuram dharan on Nov 29, 2011 09:48 AM
raghava, nambathu puliyora dodhyonam madhiri irukkuda...keezha oru vadakathi kaminatti thitran paaru..better to pick 3 or even 4 fast bowlers in the playing 11..

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raghavadesikan
Re: Re: My playing 11 for Australia!
by raghavadesikan on Nov 29, 2011 09:57 AM
i have justified why did i pick two spinners & two pacers...these guys commented badly about my list as they wanted to write something here..they are good for nothing...ask them to give technical comment against my views..till such time, i dont bother..i accept my mistakes if given so..

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punter ponting
Re: Re: Re: My playing 11 for Australia!
by punter ponting on Nov 29, 2011 10:00 AM
ok, justify your 2 spin attack. dont tell just because ozha, ashwin took minnow WI wickets after wickets in indian dust bowls?

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veerapuram dharan
Re: Re: Re: Re: My playing 11 for Australia!
by veerapuram dharan on Nov 29, 2011 10:08 AM
sometimes, one needs to control ones emotions when reacting to ones views..aaj kal hindi's influence has reached far down the south, saouth indian walonko bhi maloom ho jata hai ki aap kya baat kar rahe hai..so, lets be moderate in our responses and tackle the arguments in constructive way..

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veerapuram dharan
Re: Re: Re: My playing 11 for Australia!
by veerapuram dharan on Nov 29, 2011 10:03 AM
well, gone are the days when batsmen used to struggle against spinners in any pitches..these days, they have become aggressive against spinners thereby upsetting their rhythm..we are playing aussies in aussies, not so spinner friendly grounds..may be i would prefer ur two spinners for the SCG..but not in other grounds...

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raghavadesikan
Re: Re: Re: Re: My playing 11 for Australia!
by raghavadesikan on Nov 29, 2011 10:09 AM
fine..how Shane Warne took even in AUS pitches?? was he not playing even in pacy tracks?? what if our pacers are hit like anything?? they have some aggressive/hitters on their side....

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veerapuram dharan
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: My playing 11 for Australia!
by veerapuram dharan on Nov 29, 2011 10:16 AM
to my view, there is only one spinner in this entire century who can be called a spinner and that is shane warne...and pls dont compare shane with our spinners...

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dinesh singh
Re: Re: Re: My playing 11 for Australia!
by dinesh singh on Nov 29, 2011 10:11 AM
I am surprice to hear from u that Australian are not a good player of spin. If you look the previous record of any team of the world, it is only the Australia who can play well in any kind of surface and looking by the previous record in Australia and also the pitch and the condition, I do not think any team in the world dare to play with only two pacers in Australian pitch. If you see the selection of the team, you clearly understand why there are pace battery . And the last but not the least, tell me any example of the last ten years matches that were played in Australia where any team gambled with only two pacers and If you can not play with three pacers in Australian pitch, there is no place inthe world for the pacers!

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raghavadesikan
Re: Re: Re: Re: My playing 11 for Australia!
by raghavadesikan on Nov 29, 2011 10:25 AM
pls see, i have not missed two more pacers in the team..if we require only one spin, who will play in Aus.. Ojha or Ashwin? if Ashwin fails, Ojha will also fail..then why we require spin for Aus tour?

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Vedika
No Place for Bhajji
by Vedika on Nov 29, 2011 09:30 AM  | Hide replies

Well bhajji has been under performing since last 3-4 years and should have been replaced earlier. He was lucky to play in the world cup looking at his form. He has lost the typical off spinners flight and variation and has become a middle and leg stump bowler. I feel if ashwin was picked for england ahead of harbhajan then he would have made a difference to the test series. his variations are still a novelty in world cricket and should be taken advantage off. Bhajji i feel is a over rated bowler have seldom seen him bowling the batsmen through the gate which is an off spinners deligth. Good that bhajji has been shown the door. If he wants to come back he should perform at ranji trophy level and come back. His batting has actually saved his place in the team wherein he has performed exceptionally well when least expected off him. But his main job is to deliver with the ball which he is not doing

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jaskaransingh
Re: No Place for Bhajji
by jaskaransingh on Nov 29, 2011 09:38 AM
i think vedika has underestimated bhajji ashwin is new there fore no bobdy can read him once the batsmen begain reading him he is caroomboard player not a bowler.

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RAJU CHAVAN
Re: No Place for Bhajji
by RAJU CHAVAN on Nov 29, 2011 09:49 AM
AT ONE PLACE BHAJJI IS SUFFERING AND ANOTHER SIDE SACHIN IS ENJOYING NEITHER MATCH SAVING AND MATCH WINNING

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raghavadesikan
Re: No Place for Bhajji
by raghavadesikan on Nov 29, 2011 10:00 AM
u r right! Ashwin is a composed player not just a bowler..he thinks & does his job...i think Ashwin is far ahead than any other thinking bowlers who are playing currently..

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Ram
Melborne - 2 spinners?
by Ram on Nov 29, 2011 09:29 AM  | Hide replies

Looks like the author of this article is confused between Melbourne and Sydney on which one being favours spin. Traditionally, Sydney faours spin and Melbourne for fast bowlers.

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Santa Singh
Re: Melborne - 2 spinners?
by Santa Singh on Nov 29, 2011 09:53 AM
Very true. Sydney is the only place in Australia where teams include two spinners.

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punter ponting
Re: Re: Melborne - 2 spinners?
by punter ponting on Nov 29, 2011 10:08 AM
well, right said but sydney has a bounce and pace than any wicket in india too...

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