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Sanjay
THE best there is ...
by Sanjay on May 18, 2011 04:26 PM  | Hide replies

amongst current cricket Captains for sure... such a cool cat...

Dada deserves a mention too, he set a good solid foundation and Dhoni built upon it :-)

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SachinTheGreat
Re: THE best there is ...
by SachinTheGreat on May 18, 2011 04:36 PM
yes buddy, i was his biggest basher but that innings just changed everything. I have no shame in accepting he is india's best captain and i was a fool in criticizing him.

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Sanjay
Re: Re: THE best there is ...
by Sanjay on May 18, 2011 04:46 PM
It's easily done brother - if he hadn't played that knock can you just imagine how much criticism he would have received?! I always beleived in him as you know... ok he isn't a great batsmen as when he first came on the scene but as long as India keep winning under him... I can accept that.

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SachinTheGreat
Re: Re: Re: THE best there is ...
by SachinTheGreat on May 18, 2011 04:59 PM
but poor souls like Ashish Kumar will never learn to accept the fact. I said there is no shame in accepting right. You have to be honest.

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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: Re: Re: Re: THE best there is ...
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 18, 2011 05:30 PM
I am not a politician like u sachin the great who keep changing the party with every result.
I always believe Its Indian team who win the wcup & not one captain.
Also even in this wcup sachin, zaheer, yuvi, gautam contribution was more than dhoni .
sachin clicked in 4 out of 6 matches (excluding minnows), Gautam (3 out of 6), Yuvi (2 out of 6) & dhoni 1 out of 6.
But few people talks dhoni won the world cup- what a ridiculous statemnet. Its Indian team who won the cup.
I never haerd any one praising Spain football captain for victory but entire team is getting credit with some extra credit to highest goal scorer of tournament.
STG- u need to open ur mind to understand these things

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: THE best there is ...
by Varun on May 18, 2011 05:40 PM
regardless of all your BS, what you make obvious is your myth that indian team won regardless of the captain. That is precisely where your understanding takes a huge drop. :(

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SachinTheGreat
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: THE best there is ...
by SachinTheGreat on May 18, 2011 06:08 PM
this statement itself says who is the biggest c*itya in the world. You fool.

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Amit Verma
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: THE best there is ...
by Amit Verma on May 19, 2011 01:39 PM
i'm agree with you my dear ashsh,but you should know without a good captain (either kapildeo or saurav or dhoni or ricky ponting) even there are some good player can't produce best result.it is only captain who guide every one and be with one every time to support

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SachinTheGreat
Sachin and Dada
by SachinTheGreat on May 18, 2011 03:58 PM  | Hide replies

even though Dada should get the credit for making this team than won 2011 World Cup, Dada said Dhoni is India's greatest ever captain. Even Sachin sad it. Dhoni may have not been in form during world cup. BUT i can definately tell you he is a big match player, as shown in WC final against Sri Lanka. He was out of form for the whole tournament but come the big occassion the captain led from the front. If Sachin says he is the best captain to led india and to play under him. What is wrong with some people. I feel this people just keep bashing him for jeleousy. STOP HATING GUYS, DHONI won the world cup for us. I don't personally care how he does in future, all i know is he won the biggest world cup for us. That will be the proudest moment in my life that i got to witness to see india lifting world cup in my life time.

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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: Sachin and Dada
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 18, 2011 05:01 PM
It is not linked with dhoni form.
it is his ability which never allows him to score consistently against quality bowling attcak.
Once in 25 inning- any intnl player will perform if allowed to play

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Varun
Re: Re: Sachin and Dada
by Varun on May 18, 2011 05:02 PM
You keep on missing all his innings under trying conditions. Actually after the SA test series, i would be surprised if someone said that. But with you, no wonder.

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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: Re: Re: Sachin and Dada
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 18, 2011 05:34 PM
In SA ODI series- he was failure in all 5 matches.
In test series also except for one fifty he was failure in remaining 5 inning.
anyway I was not expecting that he will score runs against like of Styen/morkel etc in SA during ODI series.
All his runs in ODI on subcontinent pitches & against team like pak/slk/BNg etc.
In India he scored against good team only when sachin/sehwag give good start & no presure o team.
Varun don't mislead by general statement

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin and Dada
by Varun on May 18, 2011 05:50 PM
lol. Except kohli and ocassionally pathan nobody come take it forward in SA ODI series. Sachin was a huge disaster. In the test series he only failed in the last test. Watch it again. Dont eat up facts to justify your myths. All indian players inclusing tendu are bullies only in flat tracks. So when they go abroad, one needs to rate the innings based on conditions and unfamiliarity. And serisouly, i dont expect a fellow like you to understand this. You rate an opening bat and the one who bats lower order by centuries. Now what can be more foolish that that ?

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amit kumar
Re: Sachin and Dada
by amit kumar on May 18, 2011 04:02 PM
Agreed but i will correct you at some points:-
Dhoni didn't play a big inning but if you look at all the matches carefully, he was almost always critical in forging parterships which actually gave a much needed platform. These partnerships were useful and not waste.

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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: Sachin and Dada
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 18, 2011 04:20 PM
Most of dhoni fans are sachin bashers.
Now it is very surprising that why they quote sachin statement to make dhoni great. sachin is waste for them but whem it comes to prove ordinary dhoni as great- always take words of sachin- Its a double standard hypocricy. It is a well known fact that sachin was over emotional after wcup victory & that type of statement was expected.
Fact reamains any captain is as god as his team & capatincy doesn't ahve much role to play in win. Captain need to earnd his place in team as a player first based on consistent performance. To become captain of a winning team is nothing great if captain himslef is not a consistent performer.
Following comment of gambhir(next captain) is very correct-

Gambhir pres conference after win over DC in IPL-4 dated 04/05/11
The left-hander also said that he was enjoying his stint as KKR captain.
"I always enjoyed my captaincy whether it is for India, whether it is for Delhi [ Images ] or this one. You end up taking responsibility, you end up learning a lot, you feel happy when you end up winning," Gambhir said.
"I always believed that there were never great captains and there will be no great captain. There are only great teams. No captain can win you the game. It is the team that wins the game. So far, I am enjoying my captaincy."

I agree 100% with gambhir statement. This captaicny hype is jist created in India by few politic

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Varun
Re: Re: Sachin and Dada
by Varun on May 18, 2011 04:54 PM
poor confused ashish. You need a brain cleanup. confusions galore.

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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: Re: Re: Sachin and Dada
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 18, 2011 05:09 PM
All confused person & political fan like varun has this thinking.
Its lnked with ur IQ level mr Varun.
I have no issue- u keep doing pooja of dhoni but don't advise others to follow the same.

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin and Dada
by Varun on May 18, 2011 05:11 PM
lol. Your low self esteem takes you to IQ calculations. :) Ashish, on a serious note, do get out of LG school. The faster the better. You write the same rubbish that LG writes.

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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin and Dada
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 18, 2011 05:35 PM
You think lG is rubbish but fact is million of true cricket fans (inlcidung LG) thinks Varun is rubbish

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin and Dada
by Varun on May 18, 2011 05:52 PM
lol. Million of true fans. That is the best part of the joke. :)

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amit kumar
Re: Re: Sachin and Dada
by amit kumar on May 18, 2011 04:38 PM
You are highly mistaken dude !!!
I am one the craziest fan of SACH and an ordinary admirer of MSD's captaincy.
But it is evident that You are a fake sachin fan, instead you must be a fan of some Mangru dhangru player of India and thus trying to demean DHONI in the guise of being Sachin fan.

And dude, never call Sachin an emotionl to have uttered anything. He speaks less but speaks what he means and feels strongly.

Again, Remember it was Sachin who had recommended Dhoni for captaincy to BCCI when most of the players were senior to MSD at that time.


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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: Re: Re: Sachin and Dada
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 18, 2011 05:07 PM
If u are not fan of sachin- why u always need to quote his name to prove dhoni greatness.
You are a double standard hypcocrite.
I never told u to become sachin fan.
same way why you force others to become dhoni fan.
I am not a big fan of dhoni & always feel he is a politician. Now its my opinion.
Who are u to force ur view on others.

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin and Dada
by Varun on May 18, 2011 05:09 PM
Now there you have a point. Why force you ?. true. Hope you apply the same from your side.

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SachinTheGreat
Re: Re: Re: Sachin and Dada
by SachinTheGreat on May 18, 2011 04:46 PM
leave that poor soul alone, he will probably never learn.

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SachinTheGreat
Re: Re: Sachin and Dada
by SachinTheGreat on May 18, 2011 04:37 PM
i am a biggest Sachin fan but sorry to say whtever you talk about Dhoni is not right.

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santha kumar
Re: Sachin and Dada
by santha kumar on May 18, 2011 04:33 PM
Here the talk is dhoni doesn't have a potential to take a credit of world cup.. inspite of him we supposed to lose cup beoz of his captainship...

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SachinTheGreat
Re: Re: Sachin and Dada
by SachinTheGreat on May 18, 2011 04:38 PM
grow up kid. If Dhoni didn't play that innings we would have never won.

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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: Re: Re: Sachin and Dada
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 18, 2011 05:11 PM
Yes india was given wild card entry in final so that big flop batsman dhoni(last 25 matches he flopped) come & perform.
Kid type argument.

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SachinTheGreat
Re: Re: Sachin and Dada
by SachinTheGreat on May 18, 2011 04:42 PM
grow up kid. If Dhoni didn't play that innings we would have never won.

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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: Re: Re: Sachin and Dada
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 18, 2011 05:11 PM
Yes india was given wild card entry in final so that big flop batsman dhoni(last 25 matches he flopped) come & perform.
Kid type argument.


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indiavoice
kings 11 punjab what a performance
by indiavoice on May 18, 2011 03:56 PM  | Hide replies

royal challaneger or royal surrneders.......haha......mar mar kar dam nikal diya punjab ne

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SachinTheGreat
Re: kings 11 punjab what a performance
by SachinTheGreat on May 18, 2011 04:47 PM
ahahaha. Banglore and Mallyas got murder by 2 man Gilchrist and Marsh. That was amazing to see.

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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: Re: kings 11 punjab what a performance
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 18, 2011 05:38 PM
Again proved only match winner win matches.
When players like gilli,marsh,Gyle,valthaty murder the opposition- it doesn't matter who is captain of opposition side.

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amit kumar
Nobody knows better than players or the coach
by amit kumar on May 18, 2011 03:53 PM  | Hide replies

On other's mind, only biasness decides, but on people like SACHIN and KIRSTEN, only REAL thing matters
"He (Dhoni) is the best captain I have played under. He is very sharp and always alert. He reads the situation well and is open to sharing ideas. He always has discussions with bowlers, batsmen and senior players separately," said Tendulkar.

"I believe that he’s the best captain in world cricket today. He’s a leader by example. He brings a terrific match-effort to every single he game plays. He’s a 100 percent player as are the others in this Indian team. He expects his troops to be ready for battle. He’s calm and level headed. I have not seen him lose his temper. If things don’t go well, he takes the responsibility. When he came to the final he had a point to prove that he’s capable of winning the big games by taking the responsibility. He’s one of the great leaders of this country and he has a huge amount to offer from the leadership point of view. There’s no reason for him to move on and be the captain for the next few years." Says Kirsten

Now, who knows better, You barking here knowing nothing more than what is there in newspaper or your jealousy/biasness or these great people who have played/coached the guy from so close. In fact, th former doesn't matter...what matters is the the team's view

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SachinTheGreat
Re: Nobody knows better than players or the coach
by SachinTheGreat on May 18, 2011 03:54 PM
correct my friend.

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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: Nobody knows better than players or the coach
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 18, 2011 04:21 PM
Most of dhoni fans are sachin bashers.
Now it is very surprising that why they quote sachin statement to make dhoni great. sachin is waste for them but whem it comes to prove ordinary dhoni as great- always take words of sachin- Its a double standard hypocricy. It is a well known fact that sachin was over emotional after wcup victory & that type of statement was expected.
Fact reamains any captain is as god as his team & capatincy doesn't ahve much role to play in win. Captain need to earnd his place in team as a player first based on consistent performance. To become captain of a winning team is nothing great if captain himslef is not a consistent performer.
Following comment of gambhir(next captain) is very correct-

Gambhir pres conference after win over DC in IPL-4 dated 04/05/11
The left-hander also said that he was enjoying his stint as KKR captain.
"I always enjoyed my captaincy whether it is for India, whether it is for Delhi [ Images ] or this one. You end up taking responsibility, you end up learning a lot, you feel happy when you end up winning," Gambhir said.
"I always believed that there were never great captains and there will be no great captain. There are only great teams. No captain can win you the game. It is the team that wins the game. So far, I am enjoying my captaincy."

I agree 100% with gambhir statement. This captaicny hype is jist created in India by few politic


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amit kumar
Re: Re: Nobody knows better than players or the coach
by amit kumar on May 18, 2011 04:29 PM
You are highly mistaken dude !!!
I am one the craziest fan of SACH and an ordinary admirer of MSD's captaincy.
But it is evident that You are a fake sachin fan, instead you must be a fan of some Mangru dhangru player of India and thus trying to demean DHONI in the guise of being Sachin fan.

And dude, never call Sachin an emotionl to have uttered anything. He speaks less but speaks what he means and feels strongly.

Again, Remember it was Sachin who had recommended Dhoni for captaincy to BCCI when most of the players were senior to MSD at that time.

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Varun
Re: Re: Nobody knows better than players or the coach
by Varun on May 18, 2011 04:48 PM
And dhoni haters hardcore fans of sachin ? hehe.

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SachinTheGreat
Re: Re: Re: Nobody knows better than players or the coach
by SachinTheGreat on May 18, 2011 05:08 PM
leave poor ashish alone. I don't think he is a sachin fan either. he is a fake fan.

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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: Re: Re: Re: Nobody knows better than players or the coach
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 18, 2011 05:39 PM
Now I feel u are the biggest fake as a sportsfan.
Always replying on personnel note & not on cricketing logic

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om shanti
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by om shanti on May 18, 2011 03:39 PM  | Hide replies

As per your logic,America does not need a president,all people are efficient.

A ship does not need a captain

Mahabharat did not need a Krishna

India does not need a prime minister

Coca-cola does not need Indra Nuyi as CEO as it will automatically make profit..

Argentina would have won world cup in 1986 without maradona being captain

my dear Dhoni haters,please note that Dada's Pune warrior will show the door to Gambhir's KKR,that team will not even rich last four..

And Dhoni will be in final playing against KXIP or MI.

If you make Dhoni the captain of bangladesh team also,he has the capability to take that team upto semi final..

With every anti dhoni post you make,Dhoni's wealth increases by that time,by USD 10,000...

So,take a break man and be successful in life !



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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: ...
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 18, 2011 04:24 PM
Om shanti all ur logic is rubbish.
No point in comapring ateam game with president.
Spain win 2010 wcup football. ever one remember Spain as a winner as a team but no one remember now who is the captain of spain.
Regarding dhoni being captain of bangladesh- please check yr IQ level & read following
Few of recent Dhoni credential as a captain:
1)shameful exit in 1st round of T20 wcup 2009 & 2010 after loosing all matches
2)shameful 1st round exit in ICC cup 2009 after loosing all matches
3)shameful 2-4 loss against Aus B team at home soil 2009
4)Loss 2-4 against same Aus in ODI series last time in 2007
5) shameful defeat in Asia cup final 2009
6) Shameful defeat in Triangular series in Bangladesh final.
7)Shameful defeat in 3rd ODI against SA when sachin/sehwag rested
8)Shameful inning defeat in 1st test match against SA in India when dravid/laxman not played due to injury.
9)Loss by an inning against SLK & SA in 1st test of series overseas
10)Loss against last SA ODI series 2-3. ( Ideal score would been 0-5 but luck favoured in two matches).


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bellarynaga
Re: Re: ...
by bellarynaga on May 18, 2011 04:31 PM
Om Shanti,Coca-cola does not need Indra Nuyi as CEO as it will automatically make profit....Pepsi needs her..stop smoking pot in the morning and typing rot...



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Varun
Re: ...
by Varun on May 18, 2011 04:48 PM
Some people just dont get it. Seems like Ashishs ego got hurt after WC as all his theories got vaporized.

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SachinTheGreat
Re: Re: ...
by SachinTheGreat on May 18, 2011 04:51 PM
leave the poor soul alone. I am not one of those though. I just mentioned earler that i have no shame in accepting that i was wrong in bashing Dhoni. I have to be honest with my self and give credit where its due.

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: ...
by Varun on May 18, 2011 04:56 PM
Thats good. We all get things wrong and what you did is the right thing to do.

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vijay
delirious dhoni marked with chennai carousel ..
by vijay on May 18, 2011 03:22 PM  | Hide replies

effulgent , elite and embracing , this one in all metaphor of cricketing fraternity dhoni , kohinoor was brought back to india in 1981 , the year when dhoni was born ....


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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: delirious dhoni marked with chennai carousel ..
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 18, 2011 04:38 PM
Yes all politician minded people with laloo as idol has same thinking.
But all true sports fan always treat him as a lucky guy who plays once in blue moon.
Vijay- another PR agent of dhoni

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venkat raman
Dhoni great politician
by venkat raman on May 18, 2011 02:16 PM  | Hide replies

B4 criticzing his capatanicy skill , dhoni does not deserved to be in Indian playing xi as a player. Gr8 politician openly backed RP Singh instead of Irfan Pathan since he hails from UP. Full backup willbe given to North Indian average players even if they failed terribely. If you are from South Indian or Western part of India he will never support.

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santha kumar
Re: Dhoni great politician
by santha kumar on May 18, 2011 03:35 PM
He is not capable to lead india as said he is great politician

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SachinTheGreat
Re: Re: Dhoni great politician
by SachinTheGreat on May 18, 2011 03:58 PM
go and you lead india then you idiot.

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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: Re: Re: Dhoni great politician
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 18, 2011 04:40 PM
It doesn't matter who lead.
When dhoni was rested, gambhir was captain & india won 5-0 against NZL.
Indian team was better than NZL on indian pitches & India won.
It doesn't matter whether captain was dhoni or gambhir or any tom dick- harry.
same indian team struggled in SA ODI due to lack of capability even if dhoni was captain- who himself was abig failure as batsman in all matches.
Its team win matches & not captain.
It is as simple as that

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Re: Dhoni great politician
by Varun on May 18, 2011 05:00 PM
lol. kid, the point that you keep on missing is that, it is the captain that empowers a team and gets its players to rise to potential. Now if they have the potential team will win, if not it will not. But winning or losing is not the criteria to judge a captain, one needs to look at the process. Like i said, you need get de confused first. :)

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anurag ghdf
Re: Dhoni great politician
by anurag ghdf on May 18, 2011 03:05 PM
If he is winning world cup for us after after being a politician and backing up the north player, then I would like him to be a politician for always and support the north indian players, come on Dhoni dont give chances to south indian players

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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: Re: Dhoni great politician
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 18, 2011 04:31 PM
u rubbish anurag- winning wcup is not only thing in cricket.
Collingwood was captain of winning team of last T-20 wcup of england. Now he is scaked even as player as his form with bat is not good.
It doesn't matter whether u win wcup or not - but if u are not a consistent performer & doing politics- u need to be kicked out.
Mind u - Its indian team who won wcup & not politician dhoni alone

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anurag ghdf
Re: Re: Re: Dhoni great politician
by anurag ghdf on May 18, 2011 05:26 PM
We dont need consistent performer whose performance can't win the game for us,we need the performance at right place right time like dhoni's wc final inning not like sachin's inning in wc final

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Ratikant Sahoo
Re: Re: Dhoni great politician
by Ratikant Sahoo on May 18, 2011 03:31 PM
u r waste!

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Kumar S
Re: Re: Dhoni great politician
by Kumar S on May 18, 2011 03:20 PM
yeah f@K this moron Venkat Ramam for his IDIOTO-LOGICAL comments...!!!

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Sandeep Panda
Re: Re: Re: Dhoni great politician
by Sandeep Panda on May 18, 2011 03:23 PM
venkat u get support full mine, fear not north pepul i hurt not you but truth i tell

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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: Dhoni great politician
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 18, 2011 04:27 PM
U are 100% right mr raman.
See how average northy player like chawal, Pravven kumar, raina, nehra,Ishant, RP singh etc get so many cahnces under dhoni captaincy. he is the most regional biased captain in history of cricket.
Mind u i am also a northy but hate politics & tahts why don't like politician /manipulator like dhoni in sports who just manage the thing like laloo.

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Ratikant Sahoo
Re: Dhoni great politician
by Ratikant Sahoo on May 18, 2011 03:30 PM
He is a good captain, there is no doubt on this. But he needs to improve his batting talent. No team can take a player just sake of a captain post.

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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: Re: Dhoni great politician
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 18, 2011 04:32 PM
see example of collingwood.
he was captain of 2010 T-20 wcup but sacked now because not performing as a player.

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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: Re: Dhoni great politician
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 18, 2011 04:33 PM
see example of collingwood.
he was captain of 2010 T-20 wcup but sacked now because not performing as a player.

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knowthe reason
dhoni bhaiyya zindabad
by knowthe reason on May 18, 2011 02:09 PM

zindabad zindabad

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Kumaar Guhan
Why run behind Dhoni?
by Kumaar Guhan on May 18, 2011 01:56 PM  | Hide replies

I hope everyone will realise that under Dhoni, India is playing best cricket. If someone can mock at his WC final knock, I dont know; He/she must be just jealous of this man. Ultimately, only history matters. If Sachin can accept that Dhoni is the best captain, damn all others who does not. Remember, the gesture he showed by moving away from the world cup celebrations just to ensure that Sachin gets the limelight. When MK Gandhi is criticised ! Then we cannot spare anyone.

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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: Why run behind Dhoni?
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 18, 2011 02:16 PM
history matters only if u are a consistent performer.
No one remeber now who is joginder sharma- who defended last 7 runs in last over of final of 2007 t-20 wcup & india win.
History remember only player like bradman, richard, lara,warne,sachin ,kapil, imran, hadlee etc who were extraordinary in talent & won matches consistently for team.
No one remeber aslo any captain if himself is not a big player.
Now who remember yunus khan & collingwood who T-20 cup in 2008/2010 as a captain.
In fact collingwood got sacked as a player last week due to his poor form.
This captaincy hype & one inning history concept works only with political minded fans in India.
So Guhan please don't keep repeating one inning for next 10 yrs. No one cares for that.
Even balbindear singh sandhu took prized wicket of greenidge in 1983 wcup final. It doesn't mean that goginder sharma, sandhu, dhoni type player made history.

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Kumaar Guhan
Re: Re: Why run behind Dhoni?
by Kumaar Guhan on May 18, 2011 02:43 PM
Get your logic right! Cannot compare Joginder sharma with Dhoni. Dhoni is a WC winning captain. He is one in a handful of captains to do so. The first to win both T20 and ODI WCups. In any sport everyone has to hand your boots. Roger federer or Pete sampras or the great Pele. Everyone. Kapil is remembered as a WC winning captain. It is for his knock again Zimbabwe (175). Ultimately, he does what he does best. Rest of you like you will only keep complaining.

It is just those few innings under pressure and life/death situation, that matters.

Gambhir played well, but he did not survive and finish the game for India. But one cannot ruleout his contribution.

Maybe you want to see Yuvraj or Gambhir as captain. We will see, but the teams performance will be drastically different.

I am not going here to advertise dhoni, but spare this soul who has given so much pride for this nation.

You will realise his contribution after 5 years from now.

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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: Re: Re: Why run behind Dhoni?
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 18, 2011 04:16 PM
Most of dhoni fans are sachin bashers.
Now it is very surprising that why they quote sachin statement to make dhoni great. sachin is waste for them but whem it comes to prove ordinary dhoni as great- always take words of sachin- Its a double standard hypocricy. It is a well known fact that sachin was over emotional after wcup victory & that type of statement was expected.
Fact reamains any captain is as god as his team & capatincy doesn't ahve much role to play in win. Captain need to earnd his place in team as a player first based on consistent performance. To become captain of a winning team is nothing great if captain himslef is not a consistent performer.
Following comment of gambhir(next captain) is very correct-

Gambhir pres conference after win over DC in IPL-4 dated 04/05/11
The left-hander also said that he was enjoying his stint as KKR captain.
"I always enjoyed my captaincy whether it is for India, whether it is for Delhi [ Images ] or this one. You end up taking responsibility, you end up learning a lot, you feel happy when you end up winning," Gambhir said.
"I always believed that there were never great captains and there will be no great captain. There are only great teams. No captain can win you the game. It is the team that wins the game. So far, I am enjoying my captaincy."

I agree 100% with gambhir statement. This captaicny hype is jist created in India by few politic

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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: Re: Re: Why run behind Dhoni?
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 18, 2011 04:16 PM
Most of dhoni fans are sachin bashers.
Now it is very surprising that why they quote sachin statement to make dhoni great. sachin is waste for them but whem it comes to prove ordinary dhoni as great- always take words of sachin- Its a double standard hypocricy. It is a well known fact that sachin was over emotional after wcup victory & that type of statement was expected.
Fact reamains any captain is as god as his team & capatincy doesn't ahve much role to play in win. Captain need to earnd his place in team as a player first based on consistent performance. To become captain of a winning team is nothing great if captain himslef is not a consistent performer.
Following comment of gambhir(next captain) is very correct-

Gambhir pres conference after win over DC in IPL-4 dated 04/05/11
The left-hander also said that he was enjoying his stint as KKR captain.
"I always enjoyed my captaincy whether it is for India, whether it is for Delhi [ Images ] or this one. You end up taking responsibility, you end up learning a lot, you feel happy when you end up winning," Gambhir said.
"I always believed that there were never great captains and there will be no great captain. There are only great teams. No captain can win you the game. It is the team that wins the game. So far, I am enjoying my captaincy."

I agree 100% with gambhir statement. This captaicny hype is jist created in India by few politic

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Re: Why run behind Dhoni?
by Varun on May 18, 2011 04:46 PM
lol. More poor understanding of captaincy. Gambhir is now the bible holder. hehe.

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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why run behind Dhoni?
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 18, 2011 04:49 PM
all political minded dhoni supporter think so but its a reality.
see example of 2010 T-20 wcup winning captain collingwood. He is sacked now as not performing with bat. Dhoni record is very poor in t-20 intl but will never be sacked just because he was captain of winning team 4 yrs back.
this type of politics can happen only in India

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Nowa
Re: Re: Why run behind Dhoni?
by Nowa on May 18, 2011 02:43 PM
Check the statistics of Dhoni in ODI before talking. There was a period when India was struggling to find out a consistent wicket keeper. In 90s the average run for a wk batsman is under 30. We should not forget that Dhoni has won many matches with batting in past.

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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: Re: Re: Why run behind Dhoni?
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 18, 2011 04:35 PM
always against weak bowling atccak & on flat subcontinent track.
How many match he has won in SA/AUs/Eng etc as a batsman when top bowler operating.
answer is nil.
He is simply a manipulator & lucky guy

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Varun
Re: Re: Re: Re: Why run behind Dhoni?
by Varun on May 18, 2011 04:45 PM
lol. One of the arguments that is brought against sachin. Funny you would say that. Someday you will get it ashish. well hopefully :)

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ASHISH KUMAR
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by ASHISH KUMAR on May 18, 2011 04:52 PM
Varun - I always go with logi/data & not a fanatic.
See data below
Sachin test Hundreds
England 8 (5 away)
Australia 12 (7 away)
Pakistan 2 (1 away)
Sri lanka 8 (4 away)
Newzeland 3 (1 away)
Zimbawe 3 (2 away)
West Indies 3 (1 away)
South Africa 5 (3 away)
Bangladesh 5 (5 away)

Wow 28 centuries away from home. Most nos against mighty aussies.
What a world class batsman.
Politician D-h-o-b-I has not scored any overseas century

I hope this will make u understand cricket better

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kaladharsamy
Re: Re: Why run behind Dhoni?
by kaladharsamy on May 18, 2011 03:45 PM
MSDhoni!!!

10 yrs ago, India was searching for a good wicket keeper batsmen and for a captain. The roll is now perfectly fullfilled by a single person in MSD. Criticizing people doesn't know this or they might be having poor memory power. When saba karim / nayan mongia was there they can bat for just 30-40 runs, but not 70 or above. To say it clearly MSD is a great minded captain, who extracts good performances from team members on field, and he becomes the happiest man, making others as match winners. Capitaincy is not easy, even the greats like Sachin has resigned from the job, stating that he will remain in the team as a batsman only. But on the other hand MS created 5-7 match winners in the team along with few greats.
Greats: Sachin,Zaheer
Match winners: Yuvi,Sehwag,Gauti,Kholi,Bhajji,Ashwin,Munaf,Nehra
Under MSD, all Indian players play sensible cricket.For example, You can see,that there was no pressure on sehwag, even when he failed after his first game( vs Bangla). He calmly brought Ashwin in the middle phase of league games, and it worked. He kept Munaf and that worked. Great example is here, YUVI( worst in form before WC2011), MSD had faith in him and Cricket World knows what happened in WC. He is a kind of person, who enjoys teammate's game and by their performance extracts victories to team. He is great, when others fail, he himself does best for the team. Go check WC final, t20s, IPl 2009 semis etc

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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: Re: Re: Why run behind Dhoni?
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 18, 2011 04:46 PM
See his records in 26 T-20 international he played. failure in all match. No fifty or match winning inning in entire career in T-20.
pathetic strike rate of 102.
His slow batting caused many losses to india in 2008/2010 T-20 wcup & ensured that india out in 1st round shamelesly in two consecutive wcup.
I IPL also scored only against weak bowling attack but always a failure agisnt good bowler like malinga/styen/ojha etc.
This IPL also when batting was tough in calcutta & CSK under pressure, he hided himself in toilet.

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Varun
Re: Re: Why run behind Dhoni?
by Varun on May 18, 2011 04:47 PM
you sound as confused as LG.

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ASHISH KUMAR
Re: Re: Re: Why run behind Dhoni?
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 18, 2011 04:53 PM
All confused person like Varun think in that way only about others

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Ratikant Sahoo
Re: Why run behind Dhoni?
by Ratikant Sahoo on May 18, 2011 03:28 PM
Do you feel if Dhoni was the captain of Kenya team then Kenya could have won the WC 2011? I hope it justifies, it's not the captaincy what brought us WC, rather it's the team balance and highly talented cricketers included in this WC.

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Varun
Re: Re: Why run behind Dhoni?
by Varun on May 18, 2011 04:45 PM
More confusions on what captaincy is. funny.

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kaladharsamy
Re: Why run behind Dhoni?
by kaladharsamy on May 18, 2011 03:41 PM
MSDhoni!!!

10 yrs ago, India was searching for a good wicket keeper batsmen and for a captain. The roll is now perfectly fullfilled by a single person in MSD. Criticizing people doesn't know this or they might be having poor memory power. When saba karim / nayan mongia was there they can bat for just 30-40 runs, but not 70 or above. To say it clearly MSD is a great minded captain, who extracts good performances from team members on field, and he becomes the happiest man, making others as match winners. Capitaincy is not easy, even the greats like Sachin has resigned from the job, stating that he will remain in the team as a batsman only. But on the other hand MS created 5-7 match winners in the team along with few greats.
Greats: Sachin,Zaheer
Match winners: Yuvi,Sehwag,Gauti,Kholi,Bhajji,Ashwin,Munaf,Nehra
Under MSD, all Indian players play sensible cricket.For example, You can see,that there was no pressure on sehwag, even when he failed after his first game( vs Bangla). He calmly brought Ashwin in the middle phase of league games, and it worked. He kept Munaf and that worked. Great example is here, YUVI( worst in form before WC2011), MSD had faith in him and Cricket World knows what happened in WC. He is a kind of person, who enjoys teammate's game and by their performance extracts victories to team. He is great, when others fail, he himself does best for the team. Go check WC final, t20s, IPl 2009 semis etc

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