If ENG win they are in QF. If they lose, they are out.If WI lose to ENG and IND they are still in as (pathetic 58 AO) Bangla is facing certain deeat against SA.
Re: It is a must win game for both
by Naveen on Mar 17, 2011 12:56 PM
"Bangla is facing certain deeat against SA."......Never be so over-sure! Anything can happen...who knows!
Two weeks before WC, in SA, India was playing like they were the World Champions - each and every player were proving that they could individually win the mathces! Patel had 4 Wkt win, Sree had 4 wk win, Bhaji had perished the SA batting line up, Pathan was making lightning fast Century, fielding was extremely good!!! When we made a paltry sum and about to fail in an ODI, from a position of defeat, our bowlers bowled out all SA batsmen and gifted us an unbelievable victory!
All this has been reversed when they were included in the WC! Dhoni is struggingling to find out his form! But he is making Century in Warm Up match!! He is making all wise decisions in SA, but in WC his decisions are suddenly became noticeably low quality!
Dhoni is denying chances to Pthan when the openers were doing a good job to promote himself and Yuvi up the order! Pathan confidently said before the WC - I can win the match from any position - suddenly getting out before making 2 digit! Bhaji became a non-entity, Nehra became a burden! Raina is not getting a chance, Aswin is sleeping in the Pavillion! Only Tendulkar is keeping his form - thought ppl do not like that for some unknown reason!
What is going on in our team! It looks like it is because somebody sitting at the Pavillion with a Mobile Phone is controlling Dhoni to fail himself and make other players in the team fail to achieve a target!
If one player is doing this, we can understand it is as a bad day!
Re: There is something wrong with Indian Players
by Mohammad Haris on Mar 17, 2011 06:01 AM
ch00tiye did u watch the match in which india were 260/1 batting? They just collapsed, stop accusing them of fixing
Two weeks before WC, in SA, India was playing like they were the World Champions - each and every player were proving that they could individually win the mathces! Patel had 4 Wkt win, Sree had 4 wk win, Bhaji had perished the SA batting line up, Pathan was making lightning fast Century, fielding was extremely good!!! When we made a paltry sum and about to fail in an ODI, from a position of defeat, our bowlers bowled out all SA batsmen and gifted us an unbelievable victory!
All this has been reversed when they were included in the WC! Dhoni is struggingling to find out his form! But he is making Century in Warm Up match!! He is making all wise decisions in SA, but in WC his decisions are suddenly became noticeably low quality!
Dhoni is denying chances to Pthan when the openers were doing a good job to promote himself and Yuvi up the order! Pathan confidently said before the WC - I can win the match from any position - suddenly getting out before making 2 digit! Bhaji became a non-entity, Nehra became a burden! Raina is not getting a chance, Aswin is sleeping in the Pavillion! Only Tendulkar is keeping his form - thought ppl do not like that for some unknown reason!
What is going on in our team! It looks like it is because somebody sitting at the Pavillion with a Mobile Phone is controlling Dhoni to fail himself and make other players in the team fail to achieve a target!
If one player is doing this, we can understand it is as a bad day!
Re: There is something wrong with Indian Players
by NARENDRAKUMAR VATANI on Mar 17, 2011 03:10 AM
WE GOT A GIVE REST TO ASHISH NEHRA FOR REST OF THE WC AND FOLLOW MARTIN CROW WHEN HE INTRODUCE DIPAK PATEL IN OPENING ATTACK I MEAN ONE PACE AND OTHER ONE SPINNER.....
India scored 296 vs SA (quality bowling attack) NZ scored 300 vs PAK (Akthar,Razzak ,Gul ,afridi bowling attack) Kenya scored 265 vs Aus Ireland scored 315 Vs Eng
Re: Is Indian bowling attack realy pathetic ??
by Ronny vaz on Mar 16, 2011 08:24 PM
pt 1.Sachin scored century against quality attack. pt 2.Ross scored century against quality attack. pt 3.Obuya scored 98 against Aussies. pt 4.Kevin scored fluke century against England.....it was individal effort not team against the quality attack.
1. ENG (5) Vs WI (6) 2. SA (8) Vs BAN (6) 3. IND (7) Vs WI (6).
Right now the points (nrr) for teams: ENG -> 7 (0.013); WI-> 6 (2.206); SA-> 8 (1.606); BAN-> 6 (-0.765); IND-> 7 (0.768); I hope every body knows that, if India wins in the last match they will be second in the group, provided, SA wins over BAN, otherwise, they will top the group. Let’s see what happens if they don’t win that last match.
Since we assume WI win, WI will have 8 points. The possible scenarios are:
1. If ENG win Vs WI and SA win Vs BAN, B1: SA (10); B2: WI (8); B3: IND (7); B4: ENG (7). IND (7) will be ahead of ENG (7) since the nrr is better for India, for ENG to be ahead of IND, the margin of runs combined (margin of ENG win margin of IND loss) should be more than 192 runs, which is very difficult or impossible. 2. If ENG win Vs WI and BAN win Vs SA, B1: WI (8); B2: SA (8); B3: BAN (8); B4: IND (7). Again, IND (7) will be ahead of ENG (7) since the nrr is better for India, for ENG to be ahead of IND, the margin of runs combined (margin of ENG win margin of IND loss) should be more than 192 runs, which is almost impossible. 3. If WI win Vs ENG and SA win Vs BAN, B1: SA (10); B2: WI (10); B3: IND (7); B4: BAN (6). SA and WI position may interchange with
Re: India is already in Q/F
by srinivas ramachandran on Mar 16, 2011 09:09 PM
my dear ..ur calculation is right .. But if Eng wins over WI with a run diff of 95 and India lose with a diff of 95 ..then India are out. considering B wn over Sa`
Re: India is already in Q/F
by tippirisetty ganesh on Mar 16, 2011 05:54 PM
interchange with nrr. ENG (5) is out. 4. If WI win Vs ENG and BAN win Vs SA, B1: WI (10); B2: SA (8); B3: BAN (8); B4: IND (7). ENG (5) is out.
All the players were given chances in playing X1 but good players like Ashwin & Raina not given any single chance sofar what Indian team is doing.?? They given chance to useless Sreesanth and Nehra
Re: Ashwin & Raina
by k p on Mar 16, 2011 07:01 PM
I think we should introduce RAJINI KANTH in place of Sree and Nehra! Rajni kanth is capable to take 10 wicket in 2 overs if given a chance to bowl or alternatively, he is capable to hit make 400 runs in 10 overs if given a chance to bat! I have seen his movies - I am sure he can do it!
Otherwise, give a chance to Raja, he will buy all the opponents in the WC against India and make India win paying 1% from his 1.70 lakh Crore account!!
india are familiar to the position england are in...as usual india has to wait till the final tie and also rely on others for qualification... still i think india has qualified for q.f.
Although on paper the English look to be a good side but they are not playing to their potential.Somehow the english seem to have lost that passion for 'sports' in general whether it is cricket or football or atheletics.That is why they are not doing well at international level.About forty fifty yrs back the englisgmen were very passionate about sports.It was then that even while they were taking horse racing betting tips their ear would be glued to football or cricket commentary.Sports standards in general in England have declined.
