Re: Re: Re: Team for 4th ODI should be.....
by Anurag Rathore on Jun 13, 2011 03:29 PM
He will be automatically out when seniors will come back. It's just an opportunity for him to prove himself in top order.
Indian team drawn the test series against SA and nearly won the ODI series against them.All matches there were played on fast and bouncy pitches and Dale Steyn's bowling was deadly.Sammy please don't blame pitch for your team's poor performance.Ur team can't play spin properly.Please admit that Indian team played excellently against you inspite of absence of senior players.It's like "Naach na jane angan teda".I wonder what will happen to WI team when they face Aus and SA top class fast bowlers.Chris Gayle and Pollard were in the World Cup squad but they did not perform when their team needed the most.They are only top performers in IPL and T20.I am proud that present second string of Indian team is winning matches from pressure situations.
Re: GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
by Anurag Rathore on Jun 13, 2011 02:25 PM
Nope. Gayle was not selected for series against Pakistan. Only after that he signed contarct with RCB.
Re: Re: GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
by SOHAIL PAKISTAN on Jun 13, 2011 02:26 PM
IT WAS SILENT AGREEMENT MY FRIEND. TO OUR EYES IT SHOWS LIKE THAT. IT WAS ALL PREPLANNED.
Re: Re: Re: GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
by Anurag Rathore on Jun 13, 2011 02:31 PM
Gayle was not bought by any frenchise and he only got chance after injury of a RCB player. Till that time WI borad had announced the team for series against Pak.
Re: Re: Re: Re: GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
by SOHAIL PAKISTAN on Jun 13, 2011 02:33 PM
THAT IS WHERE WE FAIL TO UNDERSTAND THE STORIES MY FRIEND! WEST INDIES TOUR WAS PREPLANNED BEFORE THE IPL. JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT PUBLIC DOESN'T COME TO KNOW ABOUT IT, THEY CREATED THIS STORY OF SOMEONE GETTING INJURED AND GAYLE COMING INTO THAT POSITION
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
by SOHAIL PAKISTAN on Jun 13, 2011 02:37 PM
BCCI IS NOT WORRIED ABOUT PAKISTAN MY FRIEND. ITS JUST AN INCIDENCE OF PAKISTAN TOURING WEST INDIES. ANYWAYS PROBABLY BCCI WANTED TO ESCAPE THE BLAME OF FORCING GAYLE OUT OF THEIR TOUR AND HENCE FIXED PAKISTAN ALSO INTO THIS
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
by SOHAIL PAKISTAN on Jun 13, 2011 03:19 PM
MR. SRINAGESH. YOUR EXPLANATION HAS THE ANSWERS FOR YOUR DOUBTS MY FRIEND. AS LONG AS INDIA IS FIXING, IT WILL WIN. ALL THIS HAPPENED (IN LARGE SCALE) AFTER THE ADVENT OF IPL. BEFORE THAT IT USED BE IN SMALL SCALE.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
by srinagesh tanikella on Jun 13, 2011 03:03 PM
It's so ridiculous to write that BCCI is responsible for all the misdoings of Pakistani cricketers and Gayle's absense in WI team. People who cannot manage their teams will always look for excueses. If BCCI can fix matches and players at international level then they would not have had Pakistan as oppposite team in World cup semi finals. It's agreed that BCCI is richer and stronger than any other cricket body but it will remain so only till that time the team India is winning. It's simple logic. Any where in the world people watch game as long as their team is winning.
Re: GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
by joydip bhattacharya on Jun 13, 2011 03:11 PM
So the credit goes to Strong and developing India taht today BCCI can run the World Cricket....You have to blame your country for thsi situation.....We feel proud to say that even the Aus/eng who was running the cricket earlier is behind us...
Re: GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
by Huhumba Lulumba on Jun 13, 2011 02:08 PM
Scotland Yard investigated in the case of spot fixing by Pakistani cricketers in 2010. It is an independent police force not controlled by ICC or BCCI.
Re: Re: Re: GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
by Huhumba Lulumba on Jun 13, 2011 02:19 PM
BCCI/ICC with all its powers is still a very small force. Remember, match fixing in Italian football league was busted some years ago where some of the best (and the highest earning, much higher than ANY cricketer) players in the world play, and clubs like Juventus are as rich (if not more) as BCCI.
Re: Re: Re: Re: GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
by SOHAIL PAKISTAN on Jun 13, 2011 02:25 PM
BUT CRICKET IS PRACTICED AND ADORED DEEPLY ONLY IN COUNTRIES LIKE INDIA WHERE PEOPLE ARE NOT INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO DRAW UP INVESTIGATION BEYOND MONEY POWER. SO BCCI/ICC WILL ALWAYS RULE THE SHOW. IN COUNTRIES LIKE ENGLAND, AUSTRALIA, SOUTH AFRICA, THEY HARDLY SHOW ANY SERIOUSNESS IN CRICKET AND THE MONEY INVOLVED. SO, IT IS EASIER FOR BCCI/ICC TO GET THEIR ACTS GOING
Re: Re: Re: Re: GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
by Huhumba Lulumba on Jun 13, 2011 02:37 PM
Football is also practiced and adored in Western European and Latin American countries. There the crza for footballers is same as the craze for cricketers in sub-continent.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
by SOHAIL PAKISTAN on Jun 13, 2011 02:39 PM
YOU GOT IT RIGHT YOURSELF MY FRIEND, THAT'S WHY THEY CAN CATCH MATCH FIXING SCANDALS AT ANY LEVEL. BUT IN INDIA OR SUB-CONTINENT COUNTRIES THE FORCES ARE NOT STRONG ENOUGH TO SHAKE THE MONEY BODIES, WE ARE CORRUPTED YOU KNOW
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
by Huhumba Lulumba on Jun 13, 2011 02:52 PM
But sub-continent teams tour a lot of less corrupted countries like New Zealand, Australia and England (even Barbados, Trinidad and Jamaica, the countries making West Indies). If there was fixing it could have been busted there.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
by SOHAIL PAKISTAN on Jun 13, 2011 02:58 PM
BUT FRIEND, THEY ARE NOT WORRIED OF CRICKET. THEIR BOARDS (READ ONLY BOARDS) ARE SMART ENOUGH TO MAKE MONEY OUT OF THIS. WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING EASY MONEY ANY COUNTRY CAN GO CORRUPTED MY FRIEND... WHY SHOULD THOSE COUNTRIES BE BOTHERED WHETHER FIXING IS GOING ON IN A SILLY GAME LIKE CRICKET OR NOT
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
by Huhumba Lulumba on Jun 13, 2011 03:12 PM
Uncorrupt means uncorrupt everywhere, if you are corrupt in one field you are a corrupt person, no matter how clean you are everywhere else.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
by SOHAIL PAKISTAN on Jun 13, 2011 03:16 PM
NO MY FRIEND, THEY ARE NOT WORRIED ABOUT CRICKET. THEN WHERE IS THE SCOPE FOR INVESTIGATION? THE BOARDS OVER THERE ARE SMART ENOUGH TO KEEP EVERYTHING IN SECRET AND CONTROL. THERE IS NO SUCH PERFECTLY UNCORRUPT COUNTRY ON THIS EARTH MY FRIEND
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by Huhumba Lulumba on Jun 13, 2011 01:59 PM
Yeah thats why India is the current World Champions (and ranked 2ndin ODI) and ranked 1st in Tests.
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by raj kumar on Jun 13, 2011 02:07 PM
then y dont you county has buy some ranking .....oh sorry i forget no one is coming to playing in ur country where did u get money now ur player are also rejected in IPL also .. take my advice don't comment on my country never ever.....
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by Huhumba Lulumba on Jun 13, 2011 02:04 PM
Yeah right, India is undefeated in all test series (home or away) since mid 2008, and all home test series since 2004 (including a few against Pakistan).
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by Huhumba Lulumba on Jun 13, 2011 02:13 PM
If Corporate Cricket had prevailed during that period, why India was eleminated in the first round of World Cup 2007 ? That would have meant huge loss for corporates .
Same holds for the T20 World Cups in 2009 and 2010.
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by SOHAIL PAKISTAN on Jun 13, 2011 02:18 PM
ITS PART OF FIXING MY FRIEND THEY SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT SOME MATCHES ARE LOST TO BUILD UP THE CURIOSITY AND AN ODD CASE OF MAKING MONEY WITH INDIA LOSING BUT EVER SINCE THE ADVENT OF IPL, YOU CAN SEE INDIA IS WINNING MORE AND MORE MATCHES BUT DON'T BE SURPRISED IF INDIA LOSES THE NEXT ICC TOURNAMENT, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT ENOUGH MONEY CAN BE MADE THROUGH...
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by Huhumba Lulumba on Jun 13, 2011 02:47 PM
If India had to lose, they would have lost in the super six, at least in that case there would have been a few more matches involving India, and more money from television. Losing in the first round was a dead loss. as interest of the tournament greatly reduced and no one was there to watch the matches (and the advertisements between overs)
And why will any India cricketer will do fixing ? They earn much more than the cricketers from any other country and not to mention the endorsements. If you are caught, you will loose everything, too big risk to take for a few crore rupees, which could be earned anyway from a couple of endorsements.
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by SOHAIL PAKISTAN on Jun 13, 2011 03:28 PM
MY FRIEND YOU ARE NOT GETTING ME
BY FIXING A FIRST ROUND EXIT (AFTER BEING RUNNERS-UP IN THE LAST TIME), THERE IS LOT OF REVENUE GENERATED IN LUMPSUM THROUGH SUCH FIXES (SO REVENUE THROUGH ADS BETWEEN THE OVERS, ETC, DOESN'T COUNT)
DON'T BE SURPRISED IF SUCH THINGS HAPPEN IN NEXT WORLD CUP (AUSTRALIA 2015), AS ANYHOW INDIA FIND IT DIFFICULT PLAYING THERE.
AND REGARDING INDIAN PLAYERS INVOLVED IN FIXING... MY FRIEND AGAIN YOU ARE NOT GETTING ME HERE... THEY ARE NOT AT ALL REQUIRED TO INVOLVE INDIVIDUALLY, THEY HAVE TO JUST FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS GIVEN BY BOARD (HOW TO PLAY), THAT'S IT. SO THEIR ENDORSEMENTS, COMMITMENTS ARE NOT HARMED. IN FACT, THAT IS HOW YOUR BOARD SUGARCOATS THEIR PLAYERS, BY ASKING THEM TO FOLLOW THEIR INSTRUCTIONS AND THEN SATISFYING THEM TO INDULGE IN ENDORSEMENTS AND EARN MONEY ON THEIR OWN.
IN THE PAST, INDIANS WERE ALSO INVOLVED IN FIXING (DID YOU FORGET), THAT TIME THE CORPORATE FIXING WAS NOT STRONG ENOUGH
Re: Re: Re: s
by sunil billawa on Jun 13, 2011 02:14 PM
If that is true , then why pakistan lost test match series and ODI series against India when pakistan played against india at their home soil . Pakistan had lost all the series at canda when you have world clas bolwer that point of time. Your so called great saeed anwar was not able to put bat on ball against our medium paser mohanty at canada. We have enough bolwer to win macthes against team like pakistan and WI
Re: Re: Re: Re: s
by SOHAIL PAKISTAN on Jun 13, 2011 02:19 PM
THE MATCHES WERE BOUGHT MY FRIEND. WHERE DID I SAY THAT PAKISTAN WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THIS. BUT JUST WHEN PAKISTAN STARTED PROTESTING AGAINST IT, THEY ARE ISOLATED FROM WORLD CRICKET
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by joydip bhattacharya on Jun 13, 2011 03:20 PM
In the same note , you must have seen World footbal Body has agreed to conduct friendly match between Argetina and Venezuela in India , while Messi will be playing....So its not becuase of Poweful Indian footbal association ..its becuase of Developing India...
Re: s
by Raghu Rangaswamy on Jun 13, 2011 01:54 PM
Seems to be true.Also the inclusion of Chris Gayle in the team would have made a difference.His exclusion,especially when the team is performing bad defies logic.If Cheris Gayle would have been there it could have been 2-1 favouring the WI,considering that only 3 batsmen and 2 bowlders from the Indian team are playing well.
Re: Re: s
by SOHAIL PAKISTAN on Jun 13, 2011 01:59 PM
SPOT ON MY FRIEND EVEN AFTER GAYLE RETURNED FROM IPL, WEST INDIES DID NOT INCLUDE HIM WEST INDIES OR ANY FOREIGN COUNTRY IS NOT EMOTIONAL LIKE INDIA OR SUB-CONTINENT COUNTRIES TO HAVE GRUDGES WITH PLAYERS/PEOPLE SO IT IS UNDERSTANDABLE THAT THERE IS CLEAR-CUT CORPORATE LEVEL FIXING
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by Huhumba Lulumba on Jun 13, 2011 02:10 PM
He was bought only after he was rejected for selection by WICB. Moreover, India is not playing 6 of their top players, so even without Gayle it should be advantage West Indies.
Re: s
by SOHAIL PAKISTAN on Jun 13, 2011 01:50 PM
YOU ARE DEAD RIGHT MY FRIEND. ANY DAY INDIAN BATSMEN CAN FALL PREY TO C-GRADE BOWLERS OF AUSTRALIA, SOUTH AFRICA, WEST INDIES, NEW ZEALAND AND PAKISTAN. SO IT NOT TOO DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND WHY INDIA IS DOMINATING THE TOUR WITH A Z-GRADE TEAM
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by Ratnakar Mohanty on Jun 13, 2011 02:33 PM
PLS DON'T RESOND TO THIS USELESS PORKI MORON.CAPABILITY OF PAKISTAN IS BEST KNOWN TO WORLD.NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS ULTIMATE RSULT IS INDIA RULES THE WORLD CRICKET WE ARE PROUD FOR IT.PAKISTAN IS BANNED AS THEIR PLAYERS DON"T HAVE CALIBRE TO COMPETE IN INTERNATIONAL FIELD,MOREOVER THEY ARE SMART TO BE INVOLVED IN MATCH FIXING TO EARN MONEY AS BOARD CAN'T PAY.LOL
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by sunil billawa on Jun 13, 2011 02:17 PM
check india;s record in last two year . They have won most of test matches . We won against SA on most difficult track. We won at pearth which is best bouncy track in world. Now tell me where is pakistan in last two years.
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by Ratnakar Mohanty on Jun 13, 2011 02:34 PM
PLS DON'T RESOND TO THIS USELESS PORKI MORON.CAPABILITY OF PAKISTAN IS BEST KNOWN TO WORLD.NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS ULTIMATE RSULT IS INDIA RULES THE WORLD CRICKET WE ARE PROUD FOR IT.PAKISTAN IS BANNED AS THEIR PLAYERS DON"T HAVE CALIBRE TO COMPETE IN INTERNATIONAL FIELD,MOREOVER THEY ARE SMART TO BE INVOLVED IN MATCH FIXING TO EARN MONEY AS BOARD CAN'T PAY.LOL
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by raj kumar on Jun 13, 2011 02:10 PM
hmmmm pak like teams are twice beaten by unranked teams like Ireland now what indian school kids are a even better in batting ask them to learn batting first and say my personal thanks to Mishab the Great
Your Paki Team?? U wrote to me Do you know what are you barking? Hating IPL means anti Indian? you idiot...You knw only to bark on others... Who are you as$hol to call me a Porrki..You must be from Tallibann..Shame that ur id is Delhicity..U must be from a remote vilage who doesnt know minimum words.
Your Paki Team?? U wrote to me Do you know what are you barking? Hating IPL means anti Indian? you idiot...You knw only to bark on others... Who are you as$hol to call me a Porrki..You must be from Tallibann..Shame that ur id is Delhicity..U must be from a remote vilage who doesnt know minimum words.Fuckoff u rat.
Re: Re: Re: THIS GIMMICK IS TO MAKE SURE THAT
by Delhi City on Jun 13, 2011 01:09 PM
Players are the key persons, without their acceptence the whold board can't do anything.. Thats why Paki players are involved as because of their greedness and unsecurity in the game.
Re: Re: Re: Re: THIS GIMMICK IS TO MAKE SURE THAT
by SOHAIL PAKISTAN on Jun 13, 2011 01:22 PM
DON'T PLAYERS OBEY BOARD ORDERS? I REMEMBER ONCE YOUR BOARD TELLING THAT THEIR PLAYERS ARE BCCI XI AND NOT NATIONAL PLAYERS LOLZ
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: THIS GIMMICK IS TO MAKE SURE THAT
by Huhumba Lulumba on Jun 13, 2011 01:51 PM
So you mean that Butt, Asif and Amir did spot fixing as per the orders given by PCB ?
Re: Re: Re: THIS GIMMICK IS TO MAKE SURE THAT
by riyfkm on Jun 13, 2011 01:07 PM
Sohail... Please show proof... Don't talk rubbish... Y the hell U guys love "loose talk"? U won't accept visual proof against ur team.. but will accept any weird imaginative proof .. LOL
Re: Re: Re: Re: THIS GIMMICK IS TO MAKE SURE THAT
by SOHAIL PAKISTAN on Jun 13, 2011 01:24 PM
NOT RUBBISH MY FRIEND CORPORATE CRIMES ARE SELDOM SCRUTINIZED AS LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY IS INVOLVED, BUT INDIVIDUAL PLAYERS ARE SCAPEGOATS AND EASY TARGETS
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: THIS GIMMICK IS TO MAKE SURE THAT
by Huhumba Lulumba on Jun 13, 2011 01:42 PM
@ Bruno
BCCI cannot prevent anyone from becoming an MP or TV anchor (because parliament and media are not controlled by BCCI).
However, Salim Malik was appointed to be the chief coach of Pakistan natiobal cricket academy (must be controlled by PCB), just 3 days after his match fixing ban was lifted by PCB.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: THIS GIMMICK IS TO MAKE SURE THAT
by SOHAIL PAKISTAN on Jun 13, 2011 01:38 PM
IF PLAYERS INDULGE IN FIXING THEN ITS CRIME, GREEDINESS, ETC.
WHAT IF THE BOARD INVOLVES IN FIXING AND MAKING SURE THAT ITS PEOPLE GET MAD ABOUT CRICKET? THAT IS NOT GREEDINESS? OH, I THINK ACCORDING TO YOU IT IS OK AND TOLERABLE! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT MY DEAR FRIEND
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: THIS GIMMICK IS TO MAKE SURE THAT
by BRUNO MONTEIRO on Jun 13, 2011 01:31 PM
In India match fixers have become Member of Parlaiment and TV Anchors .. Why will others not do match fixing then ?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: THIS GIMMICK IS TO MAKE SURE THAT
by baldev singh on Jun 13, 2011 01:36 PM
Mr. Sohail.. it's always up to uindividual player to decide.. So far it's has always been pakistani players involved in all kinds of match fixing scams cuz of their greedy nature.. it may be cuz yr cricket board is not paying them enough salary i guess..please get yr facts right...
Re: THIS GIMMICK IS TO MAKE SURE THAT
by Huhumba Lulumba on Jun 13, 2011 01:47 PM
Please do not forget that India is missing 6 of their first choice players (Sachin, Sehwag, Gambhir, Dhoni, Yuvraj and Zaheer) whereas West Indies is missing only Gayle.
Kemar Roach and Andre Russell played in the last match, but India still won.
