One thing is for sure. The youngsters in Indian cricket are not selfish like th elderly statesmen. Raina and Vijay's dismissals prove that they cared more about victory than their averages. of course tell that to the likes of Dravid, Laxman and the world famous Tendulkar. Even if he was there, result would have been the same. Dravid is responsible for this draw. Pathetic effort by India. And this wouldn't be the first time Dhoni has snatched draw from the jaws of victory.
Re: Re: Elderly players slow batting
by Jathie Kent on Jul 11, 2011 06:39 AM
what did he say wrong? Basically we had all the resources to enforce a win. Dhoni will say his favorite dialogue - ' there is a thin line between foolishness and bravedo'. What the heck. I don't expect gr8 things from this team in England. if it wins I will be happy but no big expectations from this team.
Re: Elderly players slow batting
by venkat ramanaiah on Jul 11, 2011 06:06 AM
We should not get into conclusion with one match.infact Every run counts for the match.when Tendulkar is in crease he will motivate other batman to play and tell the tricks and totally he is the back ground person. It is a team work.
Re: Re: Elderly players slow batting
by rotidal on Jul 11, 2011 06:21 AM
well said venkat, this is not T-20 to just go and finish off the matches. i dont know why certain people dont understand test cricket. when people like sehwag r batting, getting 6 runs per over is not a very big deal (even in tests). people should understand that this is team work. infact if one can resort to blame game, they should blame bowlers for not dismissing the tail enders soon (we have this problem from time immemorial). but they should give credit to the team effort. comments like the above dont help for a good cause.
Re: Re: Elderly players slow batting
by Jathie Kent on Jul 11, 2011 06:47 AM
Of course its teamwork..thats why it hurts when we did not go for a win. Seriously, for me as Indian fan, basic expectation is that as #1 team, 47 overs and you are suppose to get 180 runs. Its not 5 an over either. Laxman and Dravid still hope to make it to the ODI team...A win would have emphasised the need of this great folks..but no. Dravid doesnt rotate strike, doesnt want singles! Time to seriously phase out seniors. You can complain that I don't know anything abt cricket. All I want my team is to have is backbone . If you lose fighting, I would love it. Had he lost the match, pressure would have been immense but I am sure pressure is going to be immense now from media asking Dhoni why he didnt chase also. Either ways he would have been screwed. Why not go for glory?
Re: Elderly players slow batting
by Denzil Rajan on Jul 11, 2011 08:55 AM
There is no dearth of arm-chair critics in India. They played to their plan. And its not a rigid plan. It keeps changing with the game situation. Period.
Re: Elderly players slow batting
by Shashi on Jul 11, 2011 06:45 AM
Sir, what did our bowlers.they cant out no.9 batsman for 37 overs! Batsman not responsible for Draw.with negative bowling & fielding it is not easy to chase .Giving wicket for nothing is not a sign of good tactics.
Re: Re: Elderly players slow batting
by Sincere IndianFan on Jul 11, 2011 09:20 AM
Absolutely right Shashi and Denzil! There are plenty of people here in this forum who just do not understand the differences between test cricket and limited overs format where the dice is very heavily loaded in favour of the batsmen. So scoring 180, even in 10 overs, is not a big deal in T20 or for that matter even an ODI. May God grant wisdom and knowledge to such people. Amen!
Re: Re: Elderly players slow batting
by Jathie Kent on Jul 11, 2011 06:51 AM
whatever Shashi. 47 overs - 180 runs. less than 4 runs an over required. Are you telling me that #1 can't get it? Lame duck excuse for conditions. We should have gone for kill. Simple truth is, Dhoni wanted to make sure that he doesnt lose the series. Nothing wrong except, it just broke my heart that as ardent supporter, I didnt get what I wanted. Indian win. 2-0 sounds soo good than 1-0. Had we lost 6 wickets also, we had players till 11 who could have drawn the match. Ugh
Re: Re: Re: Elderly players slow batting
by santosh deepak on Jul 11, 2011 07:11 AM
did u ever play cricket????????i don't think so ur playing on last session of fifth day??what would happen if we loose another 2 wickets in quick succession ..one more thing i would like to tell u 47 overs are the minm overs if india loses 6 or 7 wicket the game can be played for extra five overs.and the red ball is not respond like the white one before making any such comments do ur home work...
Re: Re: Re: Elderly players slow batting
by arvin g on Jul 11, 2011 06:55 AM
20/20 generation is mostly idiots and know nothing about test cricket... these bird-brain thinks in test cricket even 6/7 runs an over is possible for win...
Re: Re: Re: Elderly players slow batting
by rotidal on Jul 11, 2011 08:12 AM
Jathie, of course no one can complain that u dont know cricket with the stats u have provided. it broke my heart also to see a draw from the team#1. but lets us come to terms with the reality. getting to #1 is a big effort, i do understand. but retaining that spot is a bigger task for any team. what if we have pushed for a win, and we lost 3-4 wickets (losing quick wickets on the 5th day is not new for any team). the whole nation would be solding team india for losing a match which could have been easily drawn.....! And not even australia (in their glory days) could have depended on their tail-end to draw a match. It would have been great to see a 2-0 victory, but let us agree on the fact that we are not yet a killer team as on today.
New man Fidel Edwards had a nasty reception at the wicket when a rising delivery from Munaf Patel [ Images ] smacked him below his right ear HAHAHAHAHAHA has munaf got such pace?
India lost a golden opportunity of winning the final test against WI because of the reprieve given by Dravid yesterday when he dropped Chanderpaul. Today I felt Dhoni should have used Raina more as he might have produced the required breakthrough inspite of giving some runs.
Re: The final test
by ramakrishnan s on Jul 10, 2011 10:52 PM
Mishra would have been a handful on this pitch. Dhoni does not seem to like mishra and how else would u justify 3 pacers on this pitch. Anyways, India under dhoni did not deserve to win this match due to wrong selection.
