Have u ever noticed, Tendulkar fans would never abuse or insult Dravid in an article relating to Tendulkar. But Dravid fans would take no time insulting Tendulkar whenever an article comes up on Dravid.
That's simply because of insecurity. Tendulkar fans aren't insecure about him, they know the world acknowledges him as one of the greatest ever. They don't feel the need to put anyone down to prove Tendulkar's greatness.
Dravid fans on the other hand, frustrated because all his career he has played second fiddle to Tendulkar and is not rated any where near him, feels the need to insult Tendulkar to glorify their hero .... and that's because of their insecurity.
Re: 1 more thing ....
by Nostradamus Great on Dec 14, 2011 10:00 PM
ha ha ha... "Tendulkar fans would never abuse or insult Dravid".. You just did that mate...
In Test Cricket, Dravid has far too many valuable knocks than Tendulkar.. And even proved that in the England Series too... So cut the crap that his position is at risk!
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by Against Pseudos on Dec 15, 2011 05:16 AM
NG: Hmmmmm... if Dravid's position has never been at risk, that's great news!! :)
But before the England series there was a SA series as well, in case you remember...
Re: 1 more thing ....
by amit lewis on Dec 14, 2011 10:14 PM
if you are talking about a pure batsman, than dravid is hard to touch, even the great vishwanath doesn't come close in my books, tendulkar is flare, not that he is not class, he is, the best modern day batsman, but even he does not come close to dravid in terms of pure technical batting genius. it's not about insecurity, the point dravid makes is valid from all stands.
Re: 1 more thing ....
by amit lewis on Dec 14, 2011 10:14 PM
if you are talking about a pure batsman, than dravid is hard to touch, even the great vishwanath doesn't come close in my books, tendulkar is flare, not that he is not class, he is, the best modern day batsman, but even he does not come close to dravid in terms of pure technical batting genius. it's not about insecurity, the point dravid makes is valid from all stands.
Re: 1 more thing ....
by N Rao on Dec 15, 2011 11:29 AM
Your words are completely because you are proving that by talking about Tendulkar greatness here. Here no word about Tendulkar still you started bringing his name because every body now talking about Dravid. So felt people are forgetting Tendulkar. Otherwise there is no point of bringing Tendulkar into this article.
Re: 1 more thing ....
by N Rao on Dec 15, 2011 11:29 AM
Your words are completely because you are proving that by talking about Tendulkar greatness here. Here no word about Tendulkar still you started bringing his name because every body now talking about Dravid. So felt people are forgetting Tendulkar. Otherwise there is no point of bringing Tendulkar into this article.
Re: 1 more thing ....
by N Rao on Dec 15, 2011 11:30 AM
Your words are completely because you are proving that by talking about Tendulkar greatness here. Here no word about Tendulkar still you started bringing his name because every body now talking about Dravid. So felt people are forgetting Tendulkar. Otherwise there is no point of bringing Tendulkar into this article.
at a strike rate of 42.64 in Tests, the lowest among all International players (who played a minimum of 20 Tests) who made their debut on or after 1990. That itself shows how much his personal kitty of runs mean more to him than his team.
Re: This snail bats .....
by sameer bhagwat on Dec 14, 2011 09:33 PM
By your logic, Harbhajan Singh is a better batsman and team player than Sachin as he has a higher strike rate.
Re: Re: This snail bats .....
by Dire Straits on Dec 14, 2011 09:35 PM
If you had brains, you'd apply that logic in context. You didn't, that proves my previous point. I'd compare a batsman with a batsman and compare their strike rate. That snail's career strike rate after more than 150 Tests stands testimony on how he has batted with mere intention of accumulating runs for himself.
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by sameer bhagwat on Dec 14, 2011 09:43 PM
Well, by comparing batsman with batsman, Sehwag is the best batsman in the team. And obvoiusly Lara and Ponting are much better than Sachin. But you knew that already, didnt you?
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by Dire Straits on Dec 14, 2011 09:48 PM
Ermmm .... Neither Lara nor Ponting nor Sehwag averages more than Tendulkar. And Lara has a strike rate of mere 2, and Ponting mere 1 more than Tendulkar. Tendulkar on the other hand has a strike rate of 15 more than Dravid. Got my point?
Oh by the way, Sehwag has an average of 34 outside Asia, while Tendulkar averages 53. That's the difference.
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by sameer bhagwat on Dec 14, 2011 09:58 PM
Will give another difference. Lara, Ponting, Dravid, Laxman have at least 5 innings better than the best innings ever played by Sachin. For such a great cricketer, the most extraordinary thing about him, more then the number of runs scored, is the utter lack of match winning innings. Mention even one innings he has played under pressure in difficult condition and singlehandedly won India the match. And please dont mention Perth or Chennai, etc, India didnt win there.
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by Dire Straits on Dec 14, 2011 10:02 PM
Why wouldn't I mention them? It's the problem of those 10 other members of the team that India couldn't win. Tendulkar played his part, they didn't ..... result = India didn't win. Can you name me any recent Test match that Dravid helped us win against a better team? And no, don't mention the England series, India got white-washed there.
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by Nostradamus Great on Dec 14, 2011 10:07 PM
I've been a Tendulkar fan all my life and still I am... But your rants are forcing me to talk about his weakness and the occasions in which he failed.. :-)
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by sameer bhagwat on Dec 14, 2011 10:09 PM
" Why wouldn't I mention them? It's the problem of those 10 other members of the team that India couldn't win." Dear Direstraits, I was under the impression that dravid and sachin played for the same team with the same set of bowlers. Then how come dravid has match winning innings overseas like headingley, adelaide, rawalpindi, kingston etc and sachin has dhaka??
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by Nostradamus Great on Dec 14, 2011 10:18 PM
Yep.. That historic test win in Eden Gardens against Aussies... Dravid "helped" us win with that partnership with Laxman.. But of course you would only remember Laxman's 281! You won't remember Dravid's 180 or Tendulkar's 10 in that match!.. he he he
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by C M on Dec 15, 2011 07:00 AM
U miss the important point Had SRT not made thise runs many of those occasions Ind would have lost the match ...And I betr those innings are more than anyone in above list..Lara,Ponting dont want themsleve to be comparaed to SRT Do u know that..?? eveyone is special in their own..But SRT is backbone of Indian team for 2 decades..
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by santosh deshpande on Dec 14, 2011 11:20 PM
u need a psychologist , u psycho !!!! Comparing harbhajan with Sachin?? God plz help creatures like u
Let Dravid the wktkeeper/bowler/fielder dare to say the same? No one enjoys Test cricket except technical batsmen and patient crowd. Oneday are for bowlers. T20 are for fielders. IPL is for kids.
Agree with the best test batsman India ever had. A real dignified, unselfish sportsperson rather than Mr 99. Test cricket is the pinnacle of cricket and its the performance there that matters. Dravid along with Gavaskar earlier and to a slightly lesser degree, Laxman has been the real reason for India's good performance overseas. Sachin has done nothing but helped himself under favourable conditions and gone missing when required.
Re: Totally agree
by Dire Straits on Dec 14, 2011 09:23 PM
Like he went missing in the Test series against South Africa under favorable conditions by averaging 88 with the bat, while Dravid once again came to rescue India with a series average of 20.
Re: Re: Totally agree
by sameer bhagwat on Dec 14, 2011 09:27 PM
Yeah. He scored a century and exposed the tail first ball new over to Steyn and co. in order to remain not out and increase his average. Such unselfish approach! And of course, there was England :)
Re: Re: Re: Totally agree
by Dire Straits on Dec 14, 2011 09:32 PM
Oh yeah, I remember ..... when Steve Waugh did the same, it was said that he was showing confidence on the tailenders. Yet when an Indian does it, he becomes selfish? Oh yeah, I remember how Dravid batted magnificently against the deadly attack of Steyn and Co., the best attack in the world that too in their own den ..... a super magnificent average of 20 (Tendulkar averaged 32 in the England series). Interestingly, we drew that series. Now India is handed a white wash in the England series, and guess what who scored those useless runs for his own personal record? It's Dravid, LOlzzzzzzzzzz.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Totally agree
by Sincere IndianFan on Dec 14, 2011 09:35 PM
Your pen name shows where you stand :) Your brain and mind are in dire straits. Ha ha ha ha :) :) :) :)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Totally agree
by Dire Straits on Dec 14, 2011 09:38 PM
Insulting a poster without being able to put forward logic and facts, merely proves that the original posters claims were just too difficult to dismiss for you.
Re: Re: Re: Totally agree
by Against Pseudos on Dec 15, 2011 05:18 AM
Sameer Bhag Mat:
Kindly don't expose VVS Laxman's tactics on this forum... :) Taking a single on the first ball of 20 overs consecutively and "exposing" Ishant; earned him accolades from the likes of you... :)
Dravid is selfish and wants ONLY Test Crciket beacuse he can stay and bat for dyas and waste hours of work for millions of indians every year!Shame that WE have NOT banned Boring and Time-wastung and porverty-producing Test Crciket, rnaji cricket and duleep cricket,etc and ONLLY One day matches, of 50 or 20 or 30 0vers MUST be played to save our nation from povery and these one day matches MUST be palyed only on week-ends or holidays ONLY, SEE how compared to nations NOT pllaying silly cricket, we are 50 nations behind in developement and ahead in poverty and under-development, what a shame!
Re: There is SO Much Useless CRICket Being Played,Dravid!
by Raavan on Dec 14, 2011 09:43 PM
Is any one forcing you to watch cricket? Swicth off the telly. Don't even waste your time in posting your views on cricket
It means there is some meaningful Cricket also? What is that? The real casualty is the three day and four day game. There is a need to revive that form. In good old days, even a three Test Match Series in England would take more than 2 months to complete. There used to be 3-4 three day games before the first Test, and Test Matches used to carry more meaning. Now, a team is expected to land straight into a Test Match. Even on this Australian tour, the team is playing 2 two day games before the first Test. I would like to say that a lot of meaningless Test Cricket is being played these days. If necessary, reduce the number of Tests to accommodate more 4 day games.
