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Who are the <i>paisa vasool </i> players in IPL-4?


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Warrior
a wkt shud be 25 runs
by Warrior on Apr 19, 2011 02:10 PM  | Hide replies

I remember the great kapil once said that taking 5 wkts was exactly the same as scoring a century (he said in test match context). Going by those words, each wicket should be given 20 runs.However, T20 is more a batsman's game and therefore each wkt should be granted 25 runs. 5 wkts by Malinga was not a small feat and should be rewarded accordingly.

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satarupa sen
Re: a wkt shud be 25 runs
by satarupa sen on Apr 19, 2011 02:57 PM
absolutely agree! More so since the bowlers get only 4 overs while a batsman can potentially bat through the innings of 20 overs.

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reva rishi
reva
by reva rishi on Apr 19, 2011 01:45 PM  | Hide replies

u stupid Srinivas Bhogle u r asuming all dis....get lost from here.. and dont asum bull shits like this...

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asheesh khare
Re: reva
by asheesh khare on Apr 19, 2011 02:58 PM
atleast be human

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swami botta
These Never work
by swami botta on Apr 19, 2011 12:55 PM

This reminds me of Champion of Champions awarded to Ravi Shastri in 1984. Srikanth used to score useful and important runs, Sivaramkrishnan used to take useful and timely wickets, Sadanand Viswanth did wondeful Wicket keeping, fast bowlers Kapil and Binny bowled wonderfully well, this guy Ravi used to score a slow fifty and used to take two not so important wickets and yet he was the Man of the Series. Runs scored and wickets taken at the right and required time should be awarded more points rather than taking a tail ender wicket which is useless.

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swami botta
These Never work
by swami botta on Apr 19, 2011 12:54 PM

This reminds me of Champion of Champions awarded to Ravi Shastri in 1984. Srikanth used to score useful and important runs, Sivaramkrishnan used to take useful and timely wickets, Sadanand Viswanth did wondeful Wicket keeping, fast bowlers Kapil and Binny bowled wonderfully well, this guy Ravi used to score a slow fifty and used to take two not so important wickets and yet he was the Man of the Series. Runs scored and wickets taken at the right and required time should be awarded more points rather than taking a tail ender wicket which is useless.

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swami botta
These Never work
by swami botta on Apr 19, 2011 12:54 PM

This reminds me of Champion of Champions awarded to Ravi Shastri in 1984. Srikanth used to score useful and important runs, Sivaramkrishnan used to take useful and timely wickets, Sadanand Viswanth did wondeful Wicket keeping, fast bowlers Kapil and Binny bowled wonderfully well, this guy Ravi used to score a slow fifty and used to take two not so important wickets and yet he was the Man of the Series. Runs scored and wickets taken at the right and required time should be awarded more points rather than taking a tail ender wicket which is useless.

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swami botta
These Never work
by swami botta on Apr 19, 2011 12:53 PM

This reminds me of Champion of Champions awarded to Ravi Shastri in 1984. Srikanth used to score useful and important runs, Sivaramkrishnan used to take useful and timely wickets, Sadanand Viswanth did wondeful Wicket keeping, fast bowlers Kapil and Binny bowled wonderfully well, this guy Ravi used to score a slow fifty and used to take two not so important wickets and yet he was the Man of the Series. Runs scored and wickets taken at the right and required time should be awarded more points rather than taking a tail ender wicket which is useless.

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Zeng
Apples and Oranges..
by Zeng on Apr 19, 2011 12:34 PM  | Hide replies

Each wicket is worth 16 runs? That is a joke.
If that was right, equivalant of Valthati's 120 runs would be 7.5 wickets! Imagine taking 8 wickets in 4 over spell! Even in 10 over spell in one day cricket, there is only 1-2 cases of 8 wicket haul. The best ever one day performance by a bowler is 8 wickets. 5 wickets in a T20 match would be comparable to 150 runs or so, to be practical.

The basic assumption that 160 is an average score is probably not wrong. Then where is the error? It is clear, teams dont lose all the wickets in an innigs, always. It could be 160/2 or 160/5. The average wickets fell in an innigs could be anything between 5 and 8. I am not a statistician, but this is not hard to find if you can take the average of wickets lost per innnigs in IPL 1-3.

If we treat 7 wickets on an average, the formula becomes 1 wicket = 23 runs, which sounds a lot more realistsic. That will bring people like Lasit Malinga to where he should belong - among top 3 in MVP index.


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swami botta
Re: Apples and Oranges..
by swami botta on Apr 19, 2011 06:59 PM
Fair analysis, but I dont call maligna a bowler. Forget about him, he is a chucker.

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Seshadri Subbaraman
Re: Apples and Oranges..
by Seshadri Subbaraman on Apr 19, 2011 02:23 PM
Good analysis. Spot on with the assumptions.

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swami botta
Re: Apples and Oranges..
by swami botta on Apr 19, 2011 07:00 PM
Fair analysis, but I dont call maligna a bowler. Forget about him, he is a chucker.

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Zeng
Apples and Oranges..
by Zeng on Apr 19, 2011 12:33 PM

Each wicket is worth 16 runs? That is a joke.
If that was right, equivalant of Valthati's 120 runs would be 7.5 wickets! Imagine taking 8 wickets in 4 over spell! Even in 10 over spell in one day cricket, there is only 1-2 cases of 8 wicket haul. The best ever one day performance by a bowler is 8 wickets. 5 wickets in a T20 match would be comparable to 150 runs or so, to be practical.

The basic assumption that 160 is an average score is probably not wrong. Then where is the error? It is clear, teams dont lose all the wickets in an innigs, always. It could be 160/2 or 160/5. The average wickets fell in an innigs could be anything between 5 and 8. I am not a statistician, but this is not hard to find if you can take the average of wickets lost per innnigs in IPL 1-3.

If we treat 7 wickets on an average, the formula becomes 1 wicket = 23 runs, which sounds a lot more realistsic. That will bring people like Lasit Malinga to where he should belong - among top 3 in MVP index.


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dhruv kumar
sachin cannot be near the top
by dhruv kumar on Apr 19, 2011 12:29 PM  | Hide replies

his runs never useful for the team, also he is a poor captain

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