Re: before leaving
by Senthil on Oct 10, 2010 10:45 PM
True. Only the people who are jealous and hatred who are unable to succeed in their life keep burning about the Great Proud Indian.
Re: Re: before leaving
by rajib sen on Oct 10, 2010 11:23 PM
yes Mr.Senthil and Mr.BEAN I am agree with u people whtever u both said..he is simply a true legend and a master of this game..thats why 14000 tests runs and 17500 odi runs holder of this game..some people said different think and jealous of him but this age he achevived best Crickter of theyear awards and 1000 tests runs in a calender year and India still another 3 to 4 tests have to play in this year..the way he is playing this days still we can fell that he is not finished yet..he proved that age is not a factor.
Re: Re: Re: @ sunil k gowda
by Senthil on Oct 10, 2010 10:42 PM
Oh that's really bad but for the truth he really need to know who is Rahul Dravid
Dravid was born in Indore, Madhya Pradesh into a Maharashtrian Deshastha family living in Karnataka. His paternal ancestors were Iyers from Thanjavur, Tamil Nadu. He grew up in Bangalore, Karnataka. He speaks Marathi, Tamil, Hindi and Kannada.
Re: @ sunil k gowda
by sunil k on Oct 10, 2010 10:43 PM
getlost stupid idiots....go n play gully crciket at least to know abt cricket..!!! stupid idiots....
Re: @ sunil k gowda
by sunil k on Oct 10, 2010 10:44 PM
y ur A.S.S burns ...when dravid plays for team india...!!!! go and eaty his s.h.i.t. to know abt batting....mental idiots..!!!
Re: Re: @ sunil k gowda
by Senthil on Oct 10, 2010 10:46 PM
Abusing is not a best thing. What u think about Dravid form and they way of his dismissal in the past year keep getting out to left arm seamer's?
Re: Re: Re: @ sunil k gowda
by sunil k on Oct 10, 2010 10:55 PM
wat's wrong with it..??? let others play and build inningse like him......how many times he has to do itfor team india at n0.3 position....fresh pitch...new ball....quality pace attack....he has been doing it right frm the begining of his career......let him play few quite series....nothing wrong in his batting.....how many times sachin, sehwag failed for quite a long duration..??? who held indian batting on all those times...??? he has been a "virtual opener " for team india over 10 rears..!!!!!!! dont u know these things..?? u know anything abt no.3 batting is allabout..??? know cricket better ....!!!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: @ sunil k gowda
by Senthil on Oct 10, 2010 11:10 PM
well it's wrong when u can't correct the same mistake again and again. If you can't understand this then there is no use to talk abt cricket with you.
Well, I m not asking about what he done before 2007. I hope you are good enough to understand this.
Well, I guess I know what is all about No.3 but if you not blind then just go through a Article from cricinfo "Testing times for Dravid and Ponting"
Few Quotes from there:
They've been outstanding No. 3 batsmen, but over the last four years their numbers have dropped significantly
Not only have Dravid and Ponting struggled when compared to the best in the world, they've also failed to keep pace with the best in their own teams.
For Dravid, the situation is worse. In a line-up of heavyweight batsmen, his average is the poorest among the regular players; while three batsmen have averages of more than 60, Dravid's barely touches 40
What's also been worrying is the spread of those runs: Dravid used to be India's best bet overseas, but four of his six hundreds during this period have come in India, and the other two were scored in Bangladesh.
Excluding his innings in Bangladesh, his overseas average during this period drops to 33.20, with no centuries in 33 innings. That doesn't augur well for a team who have a tour to South Africa coming up.
Since 2007, Dravid has come in to bat 22 times when the openers have been separated with less than 20 on the board, and he has on
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @ sunil k gowda
by Senthil on Oct 10, 2010 11:34 PM
Well Sunil K, I Practice cricket everyday and I play Cricket on every weekend. I don't want to say I have a better knowledge then you like you says but truly I have good cricket Knowledge and can compete with any one here if they can talk logic.
Sunil K, unlike others arm chair experts I can assure I watch and Play cricket.
Well I guess u need to grow to understand what is time and after 2007 When he played as Virtual opener. Here is a quote to open your eyes,
Since 2007, Dravid has come in to bat 22 times when the openers have been separated with less than 20 on the board, and he has only scored two centuries - 136 against England in Mohali when the first wicket fell at 6, and 177 against Sri Lanka in Ahmedabad, when the opening pair was separated at 14. On the other hand, he has failed to touch 20 on 10 of those 22 innings.
Well, I guess Openers plays a Lot with New ball then a No.3 batsman. If you look at since 2007 I m sure that Gauti and Sehwag faced Double the balls what Dravid faced while you must know this they face the Shiny New ball from ball 1.
Now Here I challenges you on what basis you can Say Sachin never ever faced those new balls? Guess what when you 2 wickets in 2 over you have your No.4 batsman at the crease. Even Today Sachin came to the crease very early for the fact.
I would say grow up and watch and understand what Dravid is doing after 2007 and FYI, What R Dravid Avgs in bounce SA pitches is under 40 and Since 2007 Dravid Avg is 40.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @ sunil k gowda
by sunil k on Oct 11, 2010 12:03 AM
ok...start playing some gully cricket...immediately.....if u r good enough u will learn few things abt batting and bowling.....forget abt talking abt dravid...it's way beyond ur reach....
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @ sunil k gowda
by Senthil on Oct 11, 2010 12:10 AM
sunil k at the end u r proved u r blind even after I said I play Cricket. This shows you are eother Blind or don't have any Brain. I think I should bowl few yorkers and probably few bouncers and injure you not to think about cricket then you may be grow up as a Man. What else you can do then abusing? Better make you forget typing. Grow Up Sunil
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @ sunil k gowda
by Senthil on Oct 10, 2010 11:34 PM
Well Sunil K, I Practice cricket everyday and I play Cricket on every weekend. I don't want to say I have a better knowledge then you like you says but truly I have good cricket Knowledge and can compete with any one here if they can talk logic.
Sunil K, unlike others arm chair experts I can assure I watch and Play cricket.
Well I guess u need to grow to understand what is time and after 2007 When he played as Virtual opener. Here is a quote to open your eyes,
Since 2007, Dravid has come in to bat 22 times when the openers have been separated with less than 20 on the board, and he has only scored two centuries - 136 against England in Mohali when the first wicket fell at 6, and 177 against Sri Lanka in Ahmedabad, when the opening pair was separated at 14. On the other hand, he has failed to touch 20 on 10 of those 22 innings.
Well, I guess Openers plays a Lot with New ball then a No.3 batsman. If you look at since 2007 I m sure that Gauti and Sehwag faced Double the balls what Dravid faced while you must know this they face the Shiny New ball from ball 1.
Now Here I challenges you on what basis you can Say Sachin never ever faced those new balls? Guess what when you 2 wickets in 2 over you have your No.4 batsman at the crease. Even Today Sachin came to the crease very early for the fact.
I would say grow up and watch and understand what Dravid is doing after 2007 and FYI, What R Dravid Avgs in bounce SA pitches is under 40 and Since 2007 Dravid Avg is 40.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @ sunil k gowda
by sunil k on Oct 10, 2010 11:20 PM
well.....it seems u r another statistics collecting master rather than one who play and understand cricket..!!!! u dont watch cricket and understand it..!!!! it's clear.....u dont know the pitch conditions match situations under which he played throught his career...!!!! a "virtual opener"..!!!! bats with in first 5 overs of a test match..!!!! no one in world cricket played so many new ball deliveries in his career...!!! u got it..!!!! that's the tough task for any cricketer......sachin never ever played so many fresh pitch and new ball attack like him in test cricket..!!!! in fact none of the middle order players..!!!! tthat's y i told u "know test cricket better"......sit n watch cricket instead of collecting statistics...!!! he is the one who handles the tough task of handling indian middle order over a decade..!!!!! poor cricketing knowledge..!!!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: @ sunil k gowda
by Senthil on Oct 11, 2010 12:17 AM
well it's wrong when u can't correct the same mistake again and again. If you can't understand this then there is no use to talk abt cricket with you.
Well, I m not asking about what he done before 2007. I hope you are good enough to understand this.
Well, I guess I know what is all about No.3 but if you not blind then just go through a Article from cricinfo "Testing times for Dravid and Ponting"
Few Quotes from there:
They've been outstanding No. 3 batsmen, but over the last four years their numbers have dropped significantly
Not only have Dravid and Ponting struggled when compared to the best in the world, they've also failed to keep pace with the best in their own teams.
For Dravid, the situation is worse. In a line-up of heavyweight batsmen, his average is the poorest among the regular players; while three batsmen have averages of more than 60, Dravid's barely touches 40
What's also been worrying is the spread of those runs: Dravid used to be India's best bet overseas, but four of his six hundreds during this period have come in India, and the other two were scored in Bangladesh.
Excluding his innings in Bangladesh, his overseas average during this period drops to 33.20, with no centuries in 33 innings. That doesn't augur well for a team who have a tour to South Africa coming up.
Since 2007, Dravid has come in to bat 22 times when the openers have been separated with less than 20 on the board, and he has on
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @ sunil k gowda
by sunil k on Oct 11, 2010 12:16 PM
bosideke sit n watch cricket...learn cricketing aspects...dont copy and paste cricket articles .... this clearly shows ur ignorance about the game.... bosdike....play cricket to know abt cricket...dont wright "phalthu" things abt cricket and players....people will kick ur ass if u write stupid things.....
Re: @ rajan s
by Rajan S on Oct 10, 2010 10:23 PM
don't judge it from his performance in indian conditions. If he has lost his form, he should be sent back to the first class cricket and let him regain it. That is usually the practice for most of the players. The national team is not the place where u try and learn. And one can't do that either. Because international players won't allow u to do so. They will hammer u and completely demolish your confidence
Re: Re: @ rajan s
by Mr Bean on Oct 10, 2010 10:29 PM
that's correct but we have 2 play him....he is a world class bowler(not now though) but still....we dont have any other option...dhoni will not give chance 2 ashwin or someone else...
Re: Re: Re: @ rajan s
by Rajan S on Oct 10, 2010 10:42 PM
If we continue with bhajji, especially in odi's, it will hurt india big time. They will realize it only after the world cup(i hope they do), and by then everything would be over. As we all know, WC comes only in 4 or 5 years
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @ rajan s
by Rajan S on Oct 10, 2010 10:59 PM
lets try all mr bean. what is mr bhajji delivering by being in the indian team. We haven't gone for a big series abroad(only one nzl series and they don't have a decent test squad)after kumble's retirement. So even in tests, i doubt his ability outside the sub continent. If we believe that he is the only available spinner, then its better we don't play cricket. Lets all other prospects play test and odi's (incl ashwin), and atleast make him believe that his position is under scrutiny. At the moment he is having a free run, no matter what he does on the field. He has taken his place for granted
I thought 15k is enough but they way you are playing right now I would safely watch until you retire. May be 17,000 runs or even 18,000 runs. The Fitness is the KEY and I hope you keep your fitness Well
a group of bloggers known as the jury members of rediff cricket forum...i m not a jury member though but i m one of the regulars and great friend of all the jury members
No other side in the world, would stick on with the same players, if they fail in an event like a world cup. But in india, the standards are different. The nucleus of the side is still the same, even after the debacle of the 2007 WC. Bhajji is a prime example for that. Lost count of the years, in which bhajji has been a non performer for us, particularly in ODI cricket. Another world is approaching, with him leading the spin attac
Re: India's performance criteria
by arvin g on Oct 10, 2010 10:36 PM
credit should go to shameless dravid who was captain... he very proudly announced that why should he resign from captaincy after the debacle... even now he continue to stay in the team by scoring a fifty or so in 10 innings... but media will continue to hail him great even today as they get paid by betting syndicates for supporting crumbled wall dravid in the team who is bcci and bookies main liasion in the team for fixing...
Re: India's performance criteria
by arvin g on Oct 10, 2010 10:36 PM
credit should go to shameless dravid who was captain... he very proudly announced that why should he resign from captaincy after the debacle... even now he continue to stay in the team by scoring a fifty or so in 10 innings... but media will continue to hail him great even today as they get paid by betting syndicates for supporting crumbled wall dravid in the team who is bcci and bookies main liasion in the team for fixing...
Re: Re: India's performance criteria
by Rajan S on Oct 10, 2010 10:09 PM
am not sure about his test spot. Because in india, i believe the criteria is different. We don't expect much from our bowlers and usually don't criticize them much. We have to compare them with the international standards. Unfortunately, international standards is on the way down now
Re: Re: India's performance criteria
by Rajan S on Oct 10, 2010 10:06 PM
We cannot afford bhajji in odi's. The middle overs, where spinners are expected to be leading the attack, is infact the worst period for india in odi matches. Wickets rarely fall during that time and it takes the opposition to a score not less than 280 or 300
Re: Re: Re: India's performance criteria
by Mr Bean on Oct 10, 2010 10:09 PM
yea absolutely....BTW did u read my comment about riyaz ahmed below...this is the real fact
