There is nothing wrong in getting inspirations from anyone, but Ponting must know that he cannot continue to follow Sachin. For one thing, Ponting faces a real danger of being dropped from the Aussie side, if he underperforms for a certain period, whereas Sachin faces no such danger. Secondly, Ponting has to retire sooner or later, whereas Sachin is never going to retire!
Re: tendulkar is all time favourite
by Aaloo Prasad on Nov 10, 2010 05:14 PM
And who and what are you? Who gave you the authority to decide who is better than whom? Why should others accept your verdict?
Re: Re: tendulkar is all time favourite
by Sachin Tendulkar on Nov 10, 2010 07:30 PM
then who gave you authority to question Samir??? What Samir said is 100% right. If you are so jeleous of Sachin then get lost.
It is such a stupid thing, few of us here are really going out of context & posting some stupid comments comparing our own cricketers. Now the topic of discussion should actually be on Ponting & Sachin on a broader sense. Be sportive guys....Both are great cricketors in their own sense. Do not post negative comments on both of them. Praise them for what they have achieved being what they are! Not all of us can be a PONTING or SACHIN. So, we better be good to those who has accomplished something that we couldn't in our lives.
please stop comparing the two greats of modern cricket. If Sachin has scored more runs and has made many records, Ricky has won most test matches as both player and captain, and also has won two ODI world cups as captain. Both are exceptionally gifted batsmen, and yes..we are extremely fortunate souls to have watched these two along with ofcourse Brian Lara.
Re: Re: Come on guys...
by heypal on Nov 10, 2010 04:51 PM
two hoots !! how can you compare with Ricky and Sachin. Sachin was, is and will be great. Ponting won only when Mcgrath, Wanre, Gilchrist & Hayden were there. Not any time else.
Re: Re: Re: Come on guys...
by Manu Zach on Nov 10, 2010 11:42 PM
And what has Sachin won??Sachin as captain has lost even when there were Dravid, Ganguly,Laxman, Azhar, Kumble, Srinath and Zaheer in the team. Come on kid...Ponting has achieved much more as a player than what Sachin has ever dreamt of. On the other hand, Sachin has so many records against his name, which Ricky can just dream of.
First of all ,remember Sachin is a rarest of rare sports person . You should know more abot yourself . You are a very attacking batsman - with age your reflexes slow down - whether you believe or not .So you need to adopt to your body - so may be you need to adopt a new strategy ,plan & execution - even it may mean changing your batting position come a step lower .This is must because the team is used to your attcking play and the score board movement because of you .Now you are out often the team gets in to a shell. India rarely -if it is chasing a stiff run rate and Sewag fails - which is often happens while chasing ,but when he puts some runs quickly others can take the game to a desired end . Also do not brush others comments - take what you feel is right and let others have their views like mine .
First of all ,remember Sachin is a rarest of rare sports person . You should know more abot yourself . You are a very attacking batsman - with age your reflexes slow down - whether you believe or not .So you need to adopt to your body - so may be you need to adopt a new strategy ,plan & execution - even it may mean changing your batting position come a step lower .This is must because the team is used to your attcking play and the score board movement because of you .Now you are out often the team gets in to a shell. India rarely -if it is chasing a stiff run rate and Sewag fails - which is often happens while chasing ,but when he puts some runs quickly others can take the game to a desired end . Also do not brush others comments - take what you feel is right and let others have their views like mine .
First of all ,remember Sachin is a rarest of rare sports person . You should know more abot yourself . You are a very attacking batsman - with age your reflexes slow down - whether you believe or not .So you need to adopt to your body - so may be you need to adopt a new strategy ,plan & execution - even it may mean changing your batting position come a step lower .This is must because the team is used to your attcking play and the score board movement because of you .Now you are out often the team gets in to a shell. India rarely -if it is chasing a stiff run rate and Sewag fails - which is often happens while chasing ,but when he puts some runs quickly others can take the game to a desired end . Also do not brush others comments - take what you feel is right and let others have their views like mine .
For giving this rational statement about sachin. After 35, people and critics normally link your failure with age, In my opinion which is partial true that at 35 you gain so much experience that in spite of having weak reflexes you can play well. One of the best technical batsman in the world sunil had started playing aggressively after 35 he could do so because he got so much experience that he would know how much ball would move after pitching and same about length of the ball. So riky don’t worry about age you carry we want classy player like you Jack,Sachin,VVS And Rahul. Good Morning to all comrades
Re: Thanks Captain
by Sunitha Gupta on Nov 10, 2010 01:36 PM
The comparison is done between Ponting and Sachin, need not always consider only the batting, runs, average etc. Ponting is a Captain and has taken Aussies to greater heights by winning world cups, remaining their team at Top position both in tests ODIs for more than a decade. Had Sachin been a Captain he wouldn’t have achieved any of those records which are under his belt, he was given an opportunity to captain Indian team what was his average. Under taking the tremendous pressure and guiding a team of 10 people making vital decisions on field is not easy. Taking this logic Ponting is much better than Sachin…!
Re: Re: Thanks Captain
by sourabh verma on Nov 10, 2010 02:01 PM
A team's success can't always prove the captain is good.
Though taking your point, Ponting "might be" a better captain than Sachin, not better batsman.
Though I consider Ponting a better overall cricketer since he is a better fielder and captain and has kept himself injury free for better part of his career when compared to Sachin.
Re: Re: Re: Thanks Captain
by sanath on Nov 10, 2010 02:18 PM
So then Sourabh how about taking into count the wickets taken as well along with the batting and fielding criteria ?
Moreover, Sachin has had to face McGrath, Gillespie and Warne who were top class bowlers, as compared to Ponting who had the luxury to bat against Indian bowlers.
Also Sachin has scored against Akram, Waqar at their peak, and against greats like Imran Khan, Richard Hadlee, etc.
So would those also be taken into consideration ?
Again, agreed that Ponting is a captain with a better record due to the team that he "inherited" which consisted of Hayden, Gilchrist (terrific opening batsmen), McGrath, Gillespie (deadly opening bowling), Warne, etc. as compared to the unpredictable team that Tendulkar got to captain. For more proof on it, as mentioned, chk Australia's records before and after retirement of these greats.
Re: Re: Thanks Captain
by Desi Babu on Nov 10, 2010 09:52 PM
Sunitha, Ponting was leading a great team (McGrath/Warne/Hyden et al) while Sachin was leading a bunch of average cricketers. See how Ponting is doing as a capt now that he has an Avg team.
Your logic is just tunnel vision.
Sachin may not be a good Capt but as a Batsman he is beyond compare.
Re: Re: Thanks Captain
by sanath on Nov 10, 2010 02:03 PM
If comparision is not done between cricketers in terms of batting, runs and average, what else shud be the criteria ? Height and weight of both of them ?
As for pressures, I think u shud read Kirsten's interview in cricinfo, where he has said that when he used to hear about the pressures of Indian cricketers, he did not expect such immense pressure when he joined the team as a coach.
To put it simply so that u can understand facts, to be a cricketer in a country of a billion that considers cricket as its religion is FAR MORE pressure than captaining a country which has hugely talented and sucessful players like Warne, McGrath, Hayden, Langer, Gilchrist etc. If you would like any more proof of it, just compare Ponting's performance and Australia's achievements when these greats were playing and after they retired.
Will sincerely hope that some sense has leaked in.
Re: Re: Thanks Captain
by Sundar Balasubramani on Nov 10, 2010 03:10 PM
Assuming you are a girl, i spare you for your ignorance of not knowing what it is to play under the expectation of billions of cricket loving public. It is not the same for Ponting. If you really know something about cricket, you would agree to me. Else will come back with unnecessary comments trying to justify your not so intelligent thoughts on cricket.
Re: Re: Thanks Captain
by rohit forbes on Nov 10, 2010 01:46 PM
funny..really funny comment...so why is your great ponting failing now?? ponting is gr8 and we accept that...but dont even try to compare him with sachin...we are not talking about captaincy..if you ask me..with the greats like warnie,mcgrath,haydos,langer,gilli in the team even a normal player can lead a team to success just like ponting..i dont feel he is such a gr8 captain...u must be a confused lady...get well soon
Re: Re: Thanks Captain
by kapil siddhu on Nov 10, 2010 10:57 PM
sunitha gupta, i admire ur knowledge in cricket. plz start following some other sport other thn cricket
Re: Re: Thanks Captain
by Ashok Kumar on Nov 10, 2010 02:11 PM
Do not blame sachin for not being a very successful captain. For that matter, India in its 60 years of cricket history has not had many successful captains, primarily because, we hardly play as a team. Ego issues and internal politics are plenty in our team and of late lethargy and reckless nature among the youngsters such as Yuvraj, Rohit, Sreeshanth are making it worse. That is not the case with the Aussies. You make any tom, dick and harry as captain of Australia, he will have a good record because every Aussie player will strive for excellence when they hit the ground. They may be struggling now, but their competitive sprit has no equal. With such great competitors and team players around, it is no surprise that Ponting is successful too. India not producing successful captain has more to do with the "culture" and work ethics.
Re: Re: Re: Thanks Captain
by sourabh verma on Nov 10, 2010 02:42 PM
Ashok,
Your argument does not hold true because Ganguly made almost the same team (which Sachin captained) successful. The work ethic migh be diff. but culture was same for both Ganguly and Sachin.
I am a huge fan of Sachin the batsman, but he was not successful as a captain and that should be admitted.
Re: Re: Thanks Captain
by heramb gude on Nov 10, 2010 07:35 PM
Ponting's greatness was on display in the 2008 Sydney Monkeygate Test.Nothing more need be said about the 'greatness' of Ricky Ponting, the umpire in Syndey Test 2008
I think some subscribers here are taking this as an opportunity to vehemently criticise Sachin, seems waiting for long for him to fail and it happened in first test with NZ... Not sure whom they were expecting to replace Sachin......
Re: hatred..!
by rohit forbes on Nov 10, 2010 01:48 PM
madam sunitha gupta is one of them bro...they think that they are masters of cricket if they criticise sachin...i have been following cricket for more than 15 years...i dont find even one reason to feel bad about sachin..how these people can think like that...negative attitude...
Re: Re: hatred..!
by sourabh verma on Nov 10, 2010 02:03 PM
I consider Ponting a better overall cricketer (not better batsman) since he is a better fielder and captain and has kept himself injury free for better part of his career when compared to Sachin.
