Re: Re: who cares if Ind loses, we have SRT record!
by ooty on Dec 27, 2010 06:00 PM
asha dont talk about greedy sachin grandpa, these m.o.r.o.n.s will get angry
Re: who cares if Ind loses, we have SRT record!
by sweetguy on Dec 27, 2010 04:53 PM
Why should World laugh at us? Losing and winning are part of the game. You must see Ashes Series in progress where fortunes are changed fast. We should enjoy cricket ultimately
Re: Re: who cares if Ind loses, we have SRT record!
by asha on Dec 27, 2010 05:00 PM
THE WORLD LAUGHS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED WITH INDIVIDUAL RECORDS AND NOT TEAMS VICTORY. THIS WILL HAPPEN ONLY IN INDIA.
Re: Re: Re: who cares if Ind loses, we have SRT record!
by Oomshik Tooshik on Dec 27, 2010 05:06 PM
saturation tv, paper coverage of record, when India was walloped by over an inn.
and even there he was making the tailenders bat so he can remain not out.
Re: Re: Re: who cares if Ind loses, we have SRT record!
by explorer on Dec 27, 2010 05:08 PM
All these records add to India. and People say India has a great player who has max runs, max centuries, double century in ODI etc. Like the number of Indian Wins, these records stay and make the country proud. People like you, who cant appreciate performances are forgotten very quickly. If at all you are popular it will be when you criticize the greats like Sachin.
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by Oomshik Tooshik on Dec 27, 2010 05:14 PM
yes, keep records. nevermind India loses. same as what this post is abt.
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by explorer on Dec 27, 2010 05:22 PM
I pity your mentality because you on one sire are talking about records and statistics and advise others not to talk about records. You make a detailed study on how many times we didnt win when Sachin played. Dont you think that is not tracking records? Only to defame some one? Before talking all this, ask yourself whether you are true to yourself in making personal vendetta rather than appreciating.
Re: Re: Re: Re: who cares if Ind loses, we have SRT record!
by asha on Dec 27, 2010 05:20 PM
Let Tendulkar show his worth when it matters. Let him show his worth in World Cup. Does it make any use if he is not showing his worth when it matters the most?
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by asha on Dec 27, 2010 05:42 PM
Which day are you referring to? Tendulkar is always out for zero's and two's while facing Mcgrath in world cups held outside India
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by Mr Infinity on Dec 27, 2010 05:37 PM
ummm... correction please. Sachin has scored maximum runs for India in World cup. The day he didn't India was out of World Cup. You can check statistics for that.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: who cares if Ind loses, we have SRT record!
by asha on Dec 27, 2010 05:54 PM
Mr Infinity, That is the whole point of conversation. He played for more than 20 years and scored many runs. But when it matters he is a failure. That is in quality pitches he is a utter failure while facing quality bowlers. Look at players like Steve Waugh and Jacques Kallis. They deliver when playing in quality pitches and when it matters the most. Sachin won't be playing for more than 8 years if he is playing for a team like Australia.
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by ashambani on Dec 27, 2010 05:45 PM
he has in 92, 96, 99 and 03 world cups it was other matter that our bowlers let us down in crunch matches in this world cups
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by Mr Infinity on Dec 27, 2010 05:49 PM
World cup is not AUS vs IND I guess. He has scored total of 2036 runs with average of 57.93 in WC! with 4 centuries and 13 Half centuries!
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by Mr Infinity on Dec 27, 2010 06:30 PM
Check all the statistic provided whenever you feel like saying quality wicket or against good teams or failed to get us win matches or he scores we lose or something like that. I think you are not getting all that stuff that's why you are making same points again. counter all info provided and then you can put the point forward.
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by explorer on Dec 27, 2010 05:28 PM
This is another popular argument. Brain Lara was never part of World Cup. Should we say he is not great? And sunil valson was part 1983 world cup team. So he is the greatest of all? You criticize individual records and ask an individual to win the cup? All other players are impotents?
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by Mr Infinity on Dec 27, 2010 06:18 PM
Compare the teams in which Kallis plays and in which Sachin plays you will get your answers. Kallis is one of my favorites by the way. But if you see he has been given chance to bowl consistently and he came up as awesome all rounder.
On the other hand India wanted Sachin to be a batsman only. Though he can do a brilliant bowler as well, he did saved India a few matches with his bowling (I know you won't remember that too)!
One more illusion that when he perform we lose! or he never make us win! OK check this out...
In ODIs When India won... his avg was 58.03 to score 11842 runs with 33 centuries. When India lost... his avg was 33.04 with 7930 runs and 12 centuries!
In Tests... When India won... his average was 69.55 to score 5454 runs and 20 centuries. When India Lost... his average was 38.46 to score 3431 runs with 11 centuries!
I hope that means the knocks which can make us win matches?
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by Mr Infinity on Dec 27, 2010 05:44 PM
Another correction for your argument...
Test Centuries at home : 22 Test Centuries away : 28
ODI centuries at home : 18 ODI centuries away : 28
And people call him great because he is playing for that many years madam, that is called Longevity. Half of the sportsperson go down with injuries and operations within 10-15 years!
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by asha on Dec 27, 2010 05:34 PM
How can Tendulkar be the greatest or great when he is playing for more than 20 years and scored most of the runs in the flat subcontinent pitches. He is inferior when compared to a player like Jacques Kallis who is a complete team player and a match winner.
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by sanjay mishra on Dec 27, 2010 06:25 PM
Jacques Kallis had to never face bowlers like Allan Donald,Steyn , morkel , Pollock as they were playing with him . Sachin played with a team with comparatively inferior quicks if compared to Australia , South Africa , Pakistan etc. So he has faced more tough bowlers than any other so called greats of this era or past era. Dont forget that. Also India has lot in test matches 11 times when tendulkar has scored centuries. Tell me whether India would still have drawn or won matches has he not scored those 39 centuries? Obviously yes we would have lost. So how come these 39 centuries are match wining or match saving ones. Hence get ur stats correct guys.
Re: who cares if Ind loses, we have SRT record!
by explorer on Dec 27, 2010 05:03 PM
World laughs at India, on how a great player like Tendulkar is born along with many jealous people who work very hard to find reasons from nowhere and criticize him. All others are looking at him with Awe but only we fail to appreciate that. For doing this, people go to the extent of appreciating anyone else, but never this great player.
Re: Re: who cares if Ind loses, we have SRT record!
by suhail khalid on Dec 27, 2010 06:10 PM
There's no need for us to search reasons to criticize Sachin.You just read the score board of the matches he has played in and you will realise how right we are in criticizing this person.14000 runs in 175 matches is really a shame.Any other cricketer(for example, Vinod Kambli)would have scored atleast 25,000 runs if he would have been allowed to play continuously for 21 years in 175 matches.
Re: Re: Re: who cares if Ind loses, we have SRT record!
by Mr Infinity on Dec 27, 2010 06:26 PM
May be you are forgetting that Vinod was re-introduced to team 3 times after Kolkata incident! Failed every time and then they decided to take him out.
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by sanjay mishra on Dec 27, 2010 06:31 PM
oye khalid , did any one stop kambli from playing for India for 21 years or did Sachin paid bribe to be in India team for 21 years. Fact is kambli was not good enough. No body is stopping any one to play for 21 years.Its just that Sachin has been consistent cricket & is fit. Give me another name in International cricket who has scored 7 centuries in test matches in a year at the age of 37? There is no one. Also whole of ur fav pakistan team would not have scored 7 centuries in last 2 years. i can understand ur jealous but shout in pakistan abt ur players who are more interested in making money.
Re: Re: who cares if Ind loses, we have SRT record!
by C Kr on Dec 27, 2010 05:05 PM
hi, Ind lost in the end badly. and you were handing out sweets and celebrating?
Come on. Also NO one is looking at Tendulkar with awe outside his vast Indian blind fan following.
Indeed they laugh at this mass adulation. Ind lost and the news was only abt the 'record'. A typical tendulkar situation.
Re: Re: Re: who cares if Ind loses, we have SRT record!
by mirmehdiali on Dec 27, 2010 05:17 PM
NOTE : there can be unlimited or countless matches that India will Win or Loose but Sachin is just One .. that occation will never come again .. so the whole world was celeberating it and forgetting about the Loose of the Team..
Yes that is correct he dosent have the talent to play the match winning innings but still ppl love him coz he is worth loving...
Re: Re: Re: Re: who cares if Ind loses, we have SRT record!
by suhail khalid on Dec 27, 2010 06:15 PM
He is worth loving only because most of us are emotional and prejudiced bakras.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: who cares if Ind loses, we have SRT record!
by sanjay mishra on Dec 27, 2010 06:46 PM
ya ur right we must love ur fav team player like salman Butt etc for taking money to lose match.As mentioned earlier ur pakistan team collectively wld not have scored 7 centuries in last 2 years of test cricket. So instead of looking at ur neighbours think abt ur team or r u still worried when a bobm will go off under ur chair.
Re: Re: Re: Re: who cares if Ind loses, we have SRT record!
by suhail khalid on Dec 27, 2010 06:14 PM
He is worth loving only because most of us are emotional bakras.
Re: Re: Re: who cares if Ind loses, we have SRT record!
by explorer on Dec 27, 2010 05:15 PM
There is a reason to be unhappy when we lost to another strong team, but there is another reason why we can be happy when a player top scored in both innings against No.2 team and tried his best to save the match and also scored his 50th Century. If other batsmen also did a bit more we could have saved the match. And this achievement of Sachin is going to stay for more than the win of SA. So why not celebration for that good part? If you speak to any achieved cricketer like Viv, Wasim Akram and even Grame Smith they all admire Sachin and India.
Why are we linking the performances with result and target one person while we ourselves hate personal records? Why dont you criticize the team which was lost? Why criticize sachin who atleast did his part well?
Re: Re: Re: Re: who cares if Ind loses, we have SRT record!
by suhail khalid on Dec 27, 2010 06:25 PM
When you read the scoreboard,you will know that Sachin has just scored 13 in the first innings of this match.He scored 31 out of 36 balls and 111out of 249 balls when India needed to score fast.
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by Mr Infinity on Dec 27, 2010 06:27 PM
Score fast? In TEST? when 2 DAYS were remaining? hmmm... nice strategy.
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by asha on Dec 27, 2010 05:26 PM
Don't exaggerate by telling that Tendulkar top scored in the first innings of the match. Typical Tendulkar fans say these types of things like all others are in awe of him.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: who cares if Ind loses, we have SRT record!
by explorer on Dec 27, 2010 05:30 PM
The fact says he top scored in both innings even if you dont like.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: who cares if Ind loses, we have SRT record!
by explorer on Dec 27, 2010 05:47 PM
If you track the discussion we were talking about the first test when he top scored in both innings and scored 50th century,
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: who cares if Ind loses, we have SRT record!
by asha on Dec 27, 2010 05:37 PM
What fact? It seems that you are turning fiction into facts.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: who cares if Ind loses, we have SRT record!
by sanjay mishra on Dec 27, 2010 06:54 PM
Hey Asha Bhosle we are taking abt cricket here & not about singing. Even ur elder sister loves him & feels he shld get Bharat Ratn.
Re: Re: Re: Re: who cares if Ind loses, we have SRT record!
by mirmehdiali on Dec 27, 2010 05:18 PM
Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee NOTE : there can be unlimited or countless matches that India will Win or Loose but Sachin is just One .. that occation will never come again .. so the whole world was celeberating it and forgetting about the Loose of the Team..
Yes that is correct he dosent have the talent to play the match winning innings but still ppl love him coz he is worth loving...
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by santhosh on Dec 27, 2010 05:29 PM
No others are doing their job, that is not SRT's mistake...
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by Mr Infinity on Dec 27, 2010 05:30 PM
He needed to score at least 400 to make India that match! wow, that's a kind of practical expectation.
I agree with those 'He is no God' kind of things... yes he is not, he is just a brilliant batsman. But if someone is trying to downsize his talent then we are as crazy as those who call him God. He is brilliant accept that fact, it's not gonna hurt much. Plus you will be able to see the actual reasons why we lost the match, Instead of crying foul of a man who made a century. The batsmen who failed in every innings in this series. The bowlers who lost a match for us, and many more.
Re: Re: who cares if Ind loses, we have SRT record!
by suhail khalid on Dec 27, 2010 06:12 PM
India has lost most of those matches in which Sachin has scored a century.
Re: Re: Re: who cares if Ind loses, we have SRT record!
by sanjay mishra on Dec 27, 2010 07:00 PM
Ya India has lost matches in which sachin has cored centuries & ur fav team pakistan player always take money to loose match. Look at ur team u m.o.r.o.n . u guys are only good at plotting bomb blasts.
Re: Re: ZAHEER IS BACK
by mirmehdiali on Dec 27, 2010 04:47 PM
Zaheer Khan is not a good bowler .. not sure y ppl like him so much .. well once in a while even i can take wickets that dosent mean i should be in the indian team :P
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ZAHEER IS BACK
by venkatesan sona on Dec 27, 2010 05:49 PM
@mirmehdiali :- you are insane .. and u r a piece of Sheeeeeet..... Go away fro this thread...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ZAHEER IS BACK
by mirmehdiali on Dec 27, 2010 05:58 PM
If i am a piece of a sheeeet then u r a worm in the sheeeeet .. never get personal... And an Insane can do any thign so save ur Assss i can screw it any time ... :P
Re: Record Master
by Mr Infinity on Dec 27, 2010 04:41 PM
agreed... but there is not second round in WC2011. It's quarter finals, directly after Pool matches.
Re: Record Master
by explorer on Dec 27, 2010 05:35 PM
More than Sachin fans, you people think more about sachin and unknowingly you also emphasize that Sachin is the one and only one who has to bring the World Cup. There are 10 others who seem to be insignificant for you.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ravinder jadeja
by mirmehdiali on Dec 27, 2010 05:12 PM
oh common he didnt get as many chances as othersin the team .. REMEMBER he will be leading the Indian Team in the future...
If SA talked so much that Indian attack is not good blah...blah then why did Smith chose bowling. He could have shown their class by batting first. They were afraid of Zaheer. No sportsman spirit.
Re: Re: SA challenge
by sunil rathore on Dec 27, 2010 04:11 PM
he was not afraid from indian bowler. actually he afraid from indian batsman, because he knows that he can get out indian batsman cheaply on first day but if india batted second then they cant get out india so cheaply.
Re: Re: SA challenge
by pramod a on Dec 27, 2010 04:19 PM
Hey bufff, the point is whether they wuld have batted better than india or no. See now also they are rattling at 4 wkts down batting second. So you never know. btw... in gully cricket the wkt does not change whether batting second or first coz it will be played on tar road or concrete :)
Re: Re: SA challenge
by seejo paul on Dec 27, 2010 04:16 PM
What if Zaheer does not bowl with the same pace as that of Steyn or Morkel? Mcgrath's bowling speed is less compared to Morkel. So will u say Morkel is the better bowler than Mcgrath. It is not abt speed my dear frnd. Its abt striking the correct line and length and swing. The only prob with Indian bowling now is their lack of experience in bowling in such grassy wickets.These same bowlers of ours can bowl better than same Steyn and co. in Indian pitches.
Re: Re: SA challenge
by pramod a on Dec 27, 2010 04:27 PM
yes you are right... Zaheer is not Steyn Ishanth is not Morkel Sreesanth is not express! Bhajji is not Warne or Murali or Kumble!
