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Sachin in fray for Laureus World Sportsman award


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super hero
sachin
by super hero on Dec 04, 2010 03:11 AM  | Hide replies

How much credit will u attribute for a ODI macth against Bangaladesh,
where Sachin makes 100 in first innings and India make 250-270 and
India win comfortably?
I would guess not much credit to it.
Flash-back to 2007 world cup match, Ind vs Ban , India lost
that resulted in ousting out of the world cup.
India made around 190 and Ban chased it in about 49 overs.
If Sachin made a century in that match, it would like the case
I mentioned above.
Bottomline, every century he made counts irrespective of
oppenent,ground and first/second innings. You will know the value of the
innings only if it never exists.
But players,selectors/commentators know that value.Thats why they
redgard him as the greatest player.
Clueless ppl can keep barking that he cant win matches.

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Philo
Re: sachin
by Philo on Dec 04, 2010 09:57 AM
ZERO rings. Case closed

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super hero
Dum ppl
by super hero on Dec 04, 2010 03:09 AM  | Hide replies

I hear all the time that Cricket is only played/competed in 8-10 countries.
India alone has 15% of world population (1/6th).So I would say overall around 1/5th of the worlds poupulation follow/compete in cricket.
Now tell me which other sport beats cricket?

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surya das
Re: Dum ppl
by surya das on Dec 04, 2010 05:57 AM
My dear friend, thanks for ur cooment. Here u go in details, Cricket is the second most popular sports on planet after Soccer in terms of number of people are following the game. Cricket World cup is the 2nd most 3rd most watchable event on planet follwed by Olympics, and Soccer world cup.

If you count by population South Asia's population is count by 18% of world population, where is cricket is the religion. And, people in India we ve always wrong idea on it, but if you go to ICC website, there are 96 nations who playing cricket in divisional basis. Despite of awaful ICC panel who are alwys busy fight with each other, if they would ve done constructive work towards cricket's development plan towards new territory specially with China and south america then we could ve seen different result all together. You may visit highlights of recent cricket matches played in Asian games in China, all matches played by host nation was full house even women cricket matches, which shows huge interest by people and wants to attach with this gentlemen's game. Only ICC governing body should take measurement in an appropriate way to develop T20 around the world. LEt's hope and enjoy.

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super hero
Sachin or Nadal
by super hero on Dec 04, 2010 03:07 AM

I wish Sachin or Nadal get it.

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Navpritsingh Sangari
Congrats Sachin
by Navpritsingh Sangari on Dec 04, 2010 03:05 AM

I would like to wish All the best to Sachin for this achivement thru this forum. Congratulations. May god bless you with much more success and you keep bringing glories to the country and the game.

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Ritwik Bhuyan
I'm loving it .........
by Ritwik Bhuyan on Dec 03, 2010 10:43 PM

.... watching the critics burn in pain and agony. Nothing is sweeter than watching them groan out of pain due to the fire ignited behind their rear-ends by Tendulkar, time and again.

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vijay
sachin
by vijay on Dec 03, 2010 04:28 PM  | Hide replies


Bradman played 10/52 test i.e almost 20% tests against the weakest teams of his time[India and SA] with an avg of 190.25

Tendulkar played 14/171 i.e 8% of his tests against the weakest two teams of his time[Bangladesh and zimbabwe] with an avg of 91.47


Every players loves to play against one quality attack,Bradman loved English attack be it at home or in England. He has played 37/52 tests i.e. 71% of his matches against a single familiar opponent. so if V Shewag had played 71% of all his 82 test against his most favourite attack i.e Pakistan[He has an avg of 91 against them], his career avg would have been 80.43.

Bradman's avg had fallen considerably againt quality West Indian attack[74.50] or in bodyline series[55].Bodyline searies indicates one aspect that had he played in today's time with so much techno;ogy around opposition team would have definitely found some chinks or area of discomfort for Bradman, which he mostly escaped in that era.


The point is simple in todays age and time if Bradman had played he would have an avg of around 70 certainly nt 99.94 which was a sheer accident of time.

Had tendulkar played in similar type i.e more matches against the weakest teams or more matches against his favourite attack or only in India and Australian wicket year after year, his avg will also be somewhere near 70.

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harsha vardhan
Re: sachin
by harsha vardhan on Dec 04, 2010 12:00 AM
Amazing stats, Vijay.

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super hero
Re: Re: sachin
by super hero on Dec 04, 2010 03:12 AM
Bradman played mostly against England and mostly in England and Australia. Its like telling Sachin, that he will be playing against 4-5 bowlers in his career.
Yes Yes average above 100 in all forms of game. Remember when Scahin is back from elbow injury, he went straight to england to play club cricket before coming to International crikcet and he made 5 centuries in 5 macthes.
Nextly,LBW's are introduced 9 years after Bradman debuted.
Lastly the most important thing, Each of bradmans series will span around 4-5 months.And they have 5-6 tour games before actual tests.In this generation, by the time Indian players adjust to the conditions, they will be playing their last test of the tour.If you see India performance in the last test of every away series, you will know what I am speaking.
So, from the given facts you cannot compare them.No way Bradmans feat is more than Tendulkars. They both are legends.


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super hero
Re: Re: Re: sachin
by super hero on Dec 04, 2010 03:12 AM
People say "But if Bradman had played the same number of Test innings (Tendulkar has played 280 to Bradman's 80), he would have finished with something like 100 hundred, given the rate at which he scored them,"
The real question is will he make 100 hundreds in tests, playing 450 ODI's parallelly and making 17,000 runs ? That basically gives him practically no practice games, and he has to switch gears from Tests to ODI's and ODI's to Tests constantly. People are forgetting one thing here, sachin is also the best ODI player apart from his heroics in Tests.What does that account for, when comparing to Bradman? Nothing?


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Oomshik Tooshik
Re: a new scientific analysis of sachin...
by Oomshik Tooshik on Dec 03, 2010 04:41 PM
yes master records person in a game played by 5 countries. and that too never contributing when most needed.

Ind has very few heroes, when someone like this comes along - fantards blindly idolize him.

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Sameer
Re: Re: a new scientific analysis of sachin...
by Sameer on Dec 03, 2010 10:49 PM
yes oomshik, which is exactly why he has been chosen for th prestigious award. They judges should listen to your infinite wisdom .


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Oomshik Tooshik
SRT will add award to many useful records
by Oomshik Tooshik on Dec 03, 2010 04:00 PM

excellent

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Oomshik Tooshik
Why is SRT in this list? No comparison with real achievers.
by Oomshik Tooshik on Dec 03, 2010 03:54 PM  | Hide replies

SRT is an indiv records specialist in a game played by 5 countries. In this too, he never steps up when needed.

cricket is not very competitive, few countries play it. that too it is declining in all countries but Ind, SL, Ban.

Typical comments for SRT are:

'Oh, this year he has better avg than Bradman lifetime' (!)
'Bradman has said he is like SRT'
'Congrats on most runs and most tests'
'oh get a triple hundred. only that is missing'
'aim for a 400, beat Lara record'
'wish you get to 250 tests'
'well done please get to 20000 runs'
'praying for your 100 centuries'
'Hope you play for 5 more years'

Not a word abt winning games.

Typical of SRT and his following. all they want is meaningless records and awards.

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javier
Re: Why is SRT in this list? No comparison with real achievers.
by javier on Dec 03, 2010 04:01 PM
he is loved by millions around the globe , you are just a lonely hater probably hurt by your own sad life

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