I sometimes feel match fixing might be taking in IPL.
How can you find out whether X and Y players of one team are not under performing against certain other teams? I do not think one can really know that. So I believe that it is very easy to fix matches in IPL.
The players I doubt are Haribhajan, Zaheer Khan ( Is he so really seriously insured that he can not play) of MI.
Haribhajan--He appeared to be going through motions, no intensities. Why he went for single in the last ball of second-last over against KKR? If he was facing the last over, he could have scored required 4 runs.Sachin you mad a mistake of supporting this man or being a close friend of him.
Re: Match Fixing in IPL
by sweet orange on May 19, 2009 11:55 PM
u r right. many matches in ipl were fixed. it is clear by now. Lalit modi is fooling around smsing all d time. u r right. ipl is waste of time. even icc t20 games are not so close!!!
raina for example went thru a long process of ups and downs before displayin the timing and skills now.rohit has also played for nearly two years now internationally.
jadeja has so far played just one ODI and has not gone thru the same amount of polishing and experience.
maybe as batsmen he is a little less talented than rohit but he is very talented in his own right.
are u taking into consideration the situation of the match when and how the runs are scored by a player and wether it is for a winning cause etc, I feel a player scoring less than the average strike rate but helps his team to chase a modrate score should get more points than some one scoring at a higher strike rate but for a loosing cause. Same logic should be applicable for bowlers too. PL explain.
Re: MVPI & PVI ???
by Srinivas Bhogle on May 19, 2009 05:27 PM
The MVPI combines a player's batting, bowling and fielding performances and expresses it in terms of runs. If Raina has a MVPI of 591 it means that his combined performances is equivalent to scoring 591 runs, although he has actually scored only 394 runs.
The paisa vasool index (PVI) is obtained by dividing the pro-rata money paid to Raina so far by his MVPI so far. That is, [(650000)* 13/14] / 591 which is just over 1000.
Re: Re: MVPI & PVI ???
by Ashish Dange on May 19, 2009 05:51 PM
Thanks for the information Srinivas. Would be interesting to know how the wickets and catches (fielding performance)are translated into runs? Is it a straight foward 'multiple', as in 1 wicket = X runs ... or something more complicated? Thanks in advance for your reply.
Re: Re: Re: MVPI & PVI ???
by Srinivas Bhogle on May 19, 2009 06:05 PM
At the moment it's a straight-forward multiple. In IPL2 we're assuming an average score of 150, and each wicket to be worth 15 runs.
We could -- probably should -- improve our fielding estimate if we keep track of runs saved or conceded by a fielder. At the moment we only add 'runs' for every catch taken or run out effected.
Re: Re: Re: Re: MVPI & PVI ???
by Srinivas Bhogle on May 19, 2009 06:11 PM
And I should have mentioned that you get 'bonus' runs if you score faster than the par strike rate (5 runs every 4 balls) and lose runs if you score slower. A bowler too is penalized if he concedes more than 30 runs in 4 overs, and rewarded if he concedes less.
You can see that all these numbers are derived from the estimate that the par score in 20 overs is 150
Re: Re: Re: Re: MVPI & PVI ???
by Ashish Dange on May 19, 2009 06:10 PM
I think this works fine. If you try to intriduce too many 'variables' (people might argue you should have different 'weights' for different batting positions etc) the calculation could become another D/L formula.
Also, it might not change the player rating too much.
So, thanks for the reply, and accept my commiserations for job well done.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MVPI & PVI ???
by Brindawandas Mundhra on May 20, 2009 02:40 PM
You have analysed it in a great way and if you continue like this may be one day we will find S/B (Srinivas Bhogle) Method is applied before auction of the players for next IPL. Thanks Anyway for applying yourself so deeply in to this.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MVPI & PVI ???
by Srinivas Bhogle on May 19, 2009 06:20 PM
I'm tempted to reply because you mentioned D/L. At the moment we're using the same D/L curves estimated for 50-over games and pretending that the first 30 overs were washed out. This will never give great results ... no wonder every T20 captain wants to chase if he wins the toss on a rainy morning!
One more point need to included in these rating that is the most laughable player. The point to be decided on the basis that the player whose performance has become the laughable point.
Re: There is some mistake in calculations
by Rakesh Dandekar on May 20, 2009 11:59 AM
T20 matches is only for age between 18 and 30 and not beyound that age. but our senior player is playing for only for money and not for winning. This is the sin of this cricket world particularly organizer.
Re: There is some mistake in calculations
by ramakrishnan s on May 19, 2009 06:12 PM
It is not only ganguly, but laxman and dravid as well who have failed. Well the simple fact is that ganguly, laxman and dravid are wonderful players in the test and the ODI format, where they can take their time and build their innings. But 20-20 requires different skill altogether where one needs an ability to attack from the word go, which these greats do not possess. Hence their failure in the 20-20 games.
Re: Re: There is some mistake in calculations
by Mallik S on May 20, 2009 07:05 PM
ramakrishnan, r u blind? in wht terms u call Dravid has failed in this IPL? strike rate of 126 is better than most of the so called 20-20 specialist young players.
