I am sorry for anything that wud hv hurt, u but u were not able to understand that i was talking of the period of Dalmiya and Ganguly, from 1996 to 2005, it was this period that Ganguly was never accountable. Check his runs and averages against each teams and u will find he was prolific against weaker teams and worst against the best.
Anyways got to go, am sorry for that fights i hv had with u.
Re: SRK should come out and speak the truth
by Chaturchuramoni Chatterjee on Apr 24, 2009 06:44 PM
In that series against England in the 1st test (which India lost and Ganguly didn't play) India scored 214 in the first and 219 (Sachin alone scored 122) in the second, batting was not a problem? :-)
Re: SRK should speak the truth.
by Chaturchuramoni Chatterjee on Apr 24, 2009 05:49 PM
Buchanan got what he wished, Ganguly is no longer the captain, but 1 win in 3 matches (that too due to Duckworth-Lewis)????
Re: SRK should speak the truth.
by Sanjay Aurora on Apr 24, 2009 05:47 PM
Well fans of Dada are not just Bengalis..... Dada does not need cricket scientist like Buchanan or Ladies team coach to run a team... KKR lost bcoz of foolish decision from scientist....
Re: Re: Ganguly gr8 captain
by Chaturchuramoni Chatterjee on Apr 24, 2009 06:09 PM
Ganguly avaraged 49.6 in tests before he was made the captain (upto 31st Dec 1999), although it affected his batting he stuck with it, unlike someone who resigned from captaicy as soon as his mentor left Indian Cricket.
After he was dropped and great players like M.Kaif (dropped by RR recently) and Venugopal Rao was thought better than him, he made a comeback, and since his comeback till the time he retired his test average was around 46.
Re: Re: Re: Ganguly gr8 captain
by Sameer K on Apr 24, 2009 06:16 PM
Ganguly's average in tests were never 49 or 50 after 5 years, LOL here is his before captaincy stats for u
35 Matches, Runs 2505 and average 45.54 with 7 hundreds. U are omitting the Australia series cause that series brings Ganguly averages down as he couldnt bat against the best bowlers of his time.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ganguly gr8 captain
by Chaturchuramoni Chatterjee on Apr 24, 2009 06:18 PM
In that series Ganguly was the 2nd best player for India after Sachin, Laxman was a one innings wonder.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ganguly gr8 captain
by Sameer K on Apr 24, 2009 06:28 PM
LOL the 1999 series against Australia where sachin captained us only he scored 1 hundreds and 2 fifties and others couldnt managed 150 runs including Ganguly....
Re: Re: Re: Ganguly gr8 captain
by Sameer K on Apr 24, 2009 06:18 PM
Gr8 batsmen in Asia right !!! and England also a gr8 side cause all batsmen gr8 and ordinary were scoring tons of runs against them in 90s and early 2000 !!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ganguly gr8 captain
by Chaturchuramoni Chatterjee on Apr 24, 2009 06:21 PM
Still India went to that weak England 1996 and lost the series.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ganguly gr8 captain
by Sameer K on Apr 24, 2009 06:25 PM
Ya cause they had a 12 and 13th man, the umpire giving caught out behinds of Nasir Hussain and others as not outs. And u dont know much about cricket. India wasnt losing series cause of batting even without Ganguly India was capable in batting its the bowling which wasnt capable of takign 20 wickets.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ganguly gr8 captain
by Sameer K on Apr 24, 2009 06:23 PM
i hv not seen a bigger fool then u chaturchuramoni. Read my post again, what i wrote.
Tell me one thing, GAnguly played from 1996 to 2005, how many runs and what is his average against Australia, Pakistan, South Africa and West Indies... these 10 years Dalmiya was ruling, and it will show whether Ganguly was accountable or no !!! for ur info, Ganguly played nearly 47 tests in these 10 years and there were gr8 bowlers u can find names urself of these in these 10 years and Ganguly averaged less than 27 against these nations in these 10 years with sole hundred against Aust, that too when McGrath and Warne were missing, it means if Australia or any team has gr8 bowlers they can screw Ganguly as adn when they want.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ganguly gr8 captain
by Chaturchuramoni Chatterjee on Apr 24, 2009 06:41 PM
OK, here the average till 31st Dec 2005 Aus 32.16 Eng 61.16 Pak 27 SA 27.47 WI 32.07 NZ 46.91
Re: Ganguly gr8 captain
by Sanjay Aurora on Apr 24, 2009 05:50 PM
ur posts are so predictable....u are a true ganguly hater..Reasons not known... Well thats ok...u can either love or hate him......He is such a character...
Re: Ganguly gr8 captain
by Chaturchuramoni Chatterjee on Apr 24, 2009 05:43 PM
You have made so many accusations, can you PROVE a single one of them?
People Ganguly had supported Yuvraj - Currently India's one of the best players in the limited overs version of the game. Bhajji - Termed as rejected, brought back by Ganguly, currently India's best spinner. Zaheer - India's number 1 strike bowler. Even Dravid - Ganguly saved his ODI career.
Under Ganguly India won test in Aus after 23 years, in WI after 26 years, in England after 16 years. First Dravid (or more correctly Chappell) and now Dhoni has built on that very foundation built by Ganguly.
OK, India won a series against weak Zimbabwe, but what you have not mentioned is that overseas win came after 12 years.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ganguly gr8 captain
by indiafriend on Apr 26, 2009 04:57 PM
viru was in team???? ha ha... and dravid was the swahbuckling player b4 ganguly became caps! rearhole paki...get ur facts right!
Consistency is the key out here.....the Australian philosophy is that no one is indispensable and even if he is the captain, he has to perform...
So, if a captain becomes a non-performing guy, he can't hide behind the seat of power and escape censure.....that was the principle on which he booted out Ganguly...fine, very fine, on objection out there...but the key is consistency in attitude..
going by the same logic, Ricky Ponting does not deserve a place in the Aussie ODI and 20-20 team cos he has been failing in 50 overs ODI format for a pretty long time now......now why is Chappell quiet about Ponting's failures??
Why??? Cos all Aussies want Ponting to break Sachion's record of max centuries in tests and want to shepherd him along to that record even if it is on a walking stick.....so, all those Aussies who brag that they don't care about personal records are actually very keen to see this max centuries record with Australia..
So, they are actually suffering Ponting and sacrificing team goals for this personal milestone.... So, it is not only Indians who are keen on personal records but also the Aussies...neways, Sachin will go so far ahead of Ponting that the Aussie wil lose hope and retire for good!!
Re: Consistency is the key!!
by Chaturchuramoni Chatterjee on Apr 24, 2009 05:42 PM
You have made so many accusations, can you PROVE a single one of them?
People Ganguly had supported Yuvraj - Currently India's one of the best players in the limited overs version of the game. Bhajji - Termed as rejected, brought back by Ganguly, currently India's best spinner. Zaheer - India's number 1 strike bowler. Even Dravid - Ganguly saved his ODI career.
Under Ganguly India won test in Aus after 23 years, in WI after 26 years, in England after 16 years. First Dravid (or more correctly Chappell) and now Dhoni has built on that very foundation built by Ganguly.
OK, India won a series against weak Zimbabwe, but what you have not mentioned is that overseas win came after 12 years.
Re: Ganguly captain for 5 years, gr8 captain etc
by Chaturchuramoni Chatterjee on Apr 24, 2009 05:40 PM
You have made so many accusations, can you PROVE a single one of them?
People Ganguly had supported Yuvraj - Currently India's one of the best players in the limited overs version of the game. Bhajji - Termed as rejected, brought back by Ganguly, currently India's best spinner. Zaheer - India's number 1 strike bowler. Even Dravid - Ganguly saved his ODI career.
Under Ganguly India won test in Aus after 23 years, in WI after 26 years, in England after 16 years. First Dravid (or more correctly Chappell) and now Dhoni has built on that very foundation built by Ganguly.
OK, India won a series against weak Zimbabwe, but what you have not mentioned is that overseas win came after 12 years.
An ideal but realistic team, which has Two consistently performing batsmen (one at the top and one in the middle) And two consistently wicket-taking bowlers would win the T20/20 Championship (whether IPL or world cup), as I believe that in T20/20 it is the individual performance that wins matches. The four teams that would make semifinal could be DC MI BRC DD Do you all agree?
Re: Four teams that might make to semi finals
by So Flam on Apr 24, 2009 05:29 PM
BRC ... fizzzzzz outtttt!! If Poor guy Rahul is firing (single handedly) for a T20 Team then u can understand the plight of the rest of team!
Re: SRK
by aku on Apr 24, 2009 05:07 PM
Sourav ganguly was the best captain and dravid, tendulkar were crap in captaincy cowards just becoz they wanted to make records and give the pressure to ganguly. GANGULY IS BETTER THE DRAVID AND TENDULKAR HE HAS GOT THE BRAIN TO SURVIVE FOR 5 YRS IN CAPTAINCY LOOK WHERE INDIA ARE NOW. beat that u ganguly critics!!!!!
Re: Re: SRK
by TYAGI on Apr 24, 2009 05:22 PM
hey MR .AKU LET ME REMEBER U THAT UNDER DRAVID'S CAPTAINCY WE WON SERIES IN WI AFTER 35 YRS.THEN WE REGISTERED A SERIES WIN OVER ENGLAND AS WELL.IND WON 17 GAMES WHILE CHASING SUCCESSIVELY.DEF. SRL AS WELL BY 6-1.
Re: Re: Re: SRK
by Birju on Apr 24, 2009 06:26 PM
WI name doenot qualify for greatness, when Dravid's team defeated WI then they were languishing at no 7 in world rankings above Zim & Bangladesh, England was also not a side to recon with ...... so if you have felt Dravid made gr8 contributions as captain, you must be fanatic nothing else! Even Dravid wont rate himself above Ganguly as a captain!
Re: Re: SRK
by So Flam on Apr 24, 2009 05:30 PM
No doubt about it .. but 5 good years do not allow u reclessness in captaincy after that ... Saurav just did it! And 5 years of medals just got stripped!
Re: SRK
by aku on Apr 24, 2009 05:01 PM
For ur kind information GANGULY is the greatest captain of all time. He has a greater cricket brain then sachin and dravid. I think sachin and dravid were cowards and crap in captaincy. Infact when they captained for india it was a bad period for indian cricket. DADA was far better then sachin and dravid beat that. Even laxman cant captain. These are the words that the greatest would say no me. shame on u ganguly critics.
Re: SRK
by aku on Apr 24, 2009 05:06 PM
Sourav ganguly was the best captain and dravid, tendulkar were crap in captaincy cowards just becoz they wanted to make records and give the pressure to ganguly. GANGULY IS BETTER THE DRAVID AND TENDULKAR HE HAS GOT THE BRAIN TO SURVIVE FOR 5 YRS IN CAPTAINCY LOOK WHERE INDIA ARE NOW. beat that u ganguly critics!!!!!
Hats off to Dada. Although KKR lost but he proved his mettle once again. A slap on Mulla SRK's face. I am sure if Dada were Captain then the super over results would also have been different. So now is it clear to all that "DADA IS NOT DADU YET".
