Mater of fact everyone is forgoting that Dhoni is playing with a team where players are not enough experienced. Whenever the critics write off him he bounce back with a bang and shows his guts. India has atleast gets a captain like him who can take responsibility one shoulder.
Re: Cont2.....
by Arup Chakraborty on Sep 26, 2008 07:46 PM
True.
He knows what we are expecting from him. He knows how extract best from his players. He knows how to stay cool and cum in difficult situations. He has every gradient to be great player.
Re: Cont2.....
by complex on Sep 26, 2008 08:01 PM
I don't agree with Your first and last statement. No single player in this world plays for spectators (fans),he plays for country's pride and personal benefit. Secondly Dhoni doesnot have all the in(gradient) to become a great player, his unorthodox batting will not allow him to be rated amongs the best players.
Re: Cont2.....
by ramakrishnan sr on Sep 26, 2008 08:33 PM
Boss, viv richards used to play right across the line and hit deliveries pitched on his middle stump to the on side boundary. He also wd deposit the balls pitched way outside the off stump to the leg side for boundaries. He was unorthodox..but a hell of a player and a genius. So ur comment that unrothodox batting wd not allow dhoni to be rated a grt player is incorrect. Dhoni may or may not be grt, only time will tell, but greatness cannot be judged by how orthodox a player is. It is only in india we are obsessed with technique. Sehwag for example may have all the technical faults in the world, but he has scored two triple hundreds and big hundreds against all top teams in their own back yard, so is grt despite being unrothodox.
Re: Cont2.....
by complex on Sep 26, 2008 08:45 PM
Boss first of all please understand the difference between orthodox cricket and innovating a shot. Agreed that viv use to hit a ball way outside off stump to midwicket and that too out of the boundary, but that doesnot mean he was unorthodox!!! his straight drives and sqyaure cuts are as famous as his innovative shots. Talking about shewag, he jsu lacks footwork and but his batting is 100% orthodox, look at his shots, all the time he hits the ball, his bat is straight and not across and that the reason he managed to score 200/300 runs!!!
After Sachin Dhoni is the greatest indian cricketer. He has excellent cricket sense and can play according to the situation. He never plays for his own record. Always play for the country. When matter most Dhoni always come for rescuse.
Re: Cont.......
by junaid anwar on Sep 26, 2008 07:31 PM
do not atleast discount saurav,s contribution,he was a legend also.Its another matter he is not in the team now.
Re: Cont.......
by Arnab Mullick on Sep 26, 2008 07:17 PM
What a joke. It seems to me that Sourav, Rahul, Sehwag or Laxman has not won matches for India. Especially the first 3 has won plenty in both forms of the game. Sourav has won the maximum matches after sachin in 1 day and Rahul has won more matches than Sachin in Test Cricket if you see the statistics carefully. Sehwag too has won a lot of matches for the team in both form. Can you tell me how many test matches and one days matches dhoni has won for India. His record in test cricket is poor to say the least. He has to go a long way to be counted among the legends
Re: Re: Cont.......
by sanjay on Sep 26, 2008 07:24 PM
India’s top tons for winning causes in ODI aince 2000 end
Sachin 9 tons contributed to win 3 Aus 2 win 1 NZ 1 SL 1 Keniya 1 Namibia Sehwag 8 of which 1 Bermuda 2 Pak 3 NZ 1 Eng 1 WI Dravid 4 of which 2 WI 1 Pak 1 Emirates Yuvi 5 of which 1 Pak 1 Eng 1 Zim 1 Bangla Dhoni 4 tons of which 1 Pak 1 SL 1 Africa XI 1 Hongkong 2004 onwards Saurav 5 of which 3 Keniya 1 Namibia 1 England whereas Laxman 0
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by sanjay on Sep 26, 2008 07:21 PM
India’s fifties for winning causes in Test cricket
India won 38 tests since 1996 Dravid 19 Fifties contributed to win Four Zim quality opposition 15 Laxman 15 Fifties contributed to win quality opposition 15 Sachin 15 Fifties contributed to win Two Zim quality opposition 13 Sehwag 6. Fifties contributed to win one Zim quality opposition 5 Saurav 13 Fifties contributed to win three BD one Zim quality opposition 9
Re: Re: Cont.......
by sanjay on Sep 26, 2008 07:21 PM
India’s top tons for winning causes in ODI aince 2000 end
Sachin 9 tons contributed to win 3 Aus 2 win 1 NZ 1 SL 1 Keniya 1 Namibia Sehwag 8 tons contributed to win 1 Bermuda 2 Pak 3 NZ 1 Eng 1 WI Dravid 4 tons contributed to win 2 WI 1 Pak 1 Emirates Yuvi 5 tons contributed to win 1 Pak 1 Eng 1 Zim 1 Bangla Dhoni 4 tons contributed to win 1 Pak 1 SL 1 Africa XI 1 Hongkong 2004 onwards & now at bottom Saurav 5 tons contributed to win 3 Keniya 1 Namibia 1 England Laxman 0 tons contributed to win
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by Ravi Iyer on Sep 26, 2008 08:00 PM
Laxman has 4 tons in India's wins since 2000 end....2 v Aus, 1 v Pak (decisive final ODI) and 1 v Zim (in Aus). In fact, he had made 5 100's during 2003-04 season (4 in wins and the only one lost was in D/L method, where Aus scraped through one ball to spare because of one Lee six) Yet he was never considered in ODIs regularly. Reason given was poor fielding whereas even our former captain (greatest as Test captain) has always been a poor fielder. But Laxman is a good slip fielder at least during the initial overs he would be handy.
Re: Cont.......
by sanjay on Sep 27, 2008 09:27 AM
Yes some error... Laxman four tons in ODI contributed to win. 2 Australia 1 Pakistan 1 Zimbabwe. Regret same. I always rate him much above Ganguly. Regret this error.
Re: Cont.......
by sanjay on Sep 26, 2008 07:20 PM
India’s top tons for winning causes in Test cricket
India won 38 tests since 1996 Sachin 13 tons contributed to win. Dravid 9 tons contributed to win Laxman 4 tons contributed to win Sehwag 3 tons contributed to win Saurav 3 tons contributed to win. Saurav the bottom most 2 Zim and one Eng.
Re: Cont.......
by Arnab Mullick on Sep 26, 2008 07:26 PM
For your kind information Sourav contributed in 5 to 6 wins with his conribution with bat (scoring 50 plus) and ball if you remember correctly against Pak, South Africa, England. Not always you need century to win matches. He played crucial innings against these teams in the last 2 yrs and won us the matches.
Re: Re: Cont.......
by sanjay on Sep 26, 2008 07:31 PM
India’s top tons for winning causes in ODI aince 2000 end eight years Saurav 5 tons contributed to win 3 Keniya 1 Namibia 1 England
Re: Cont.......
by Arup Chakraborty on Sep 26, 2008 07:33 PM
He alway got out at crucial stages by playing irrensposible shots. He always plays for record not for team.
Re: Cont.......
by Arup Chakraborty on Sep 26, 2008 07:24 PM
Dear Arnab,
Can u tell me how many century Sourav has against Australia, South Africa and England in one day and test. Can u tell me last 3 series how many runs Dravid, Scahin and Laxman scores. U forgot the fact the Dhoni is allrounder and these so called greate all only specilised in one field. An allrounder has more pressure than others. Moreover he is also captaining the side. Lastly he shows his true character by wining series in T20 world cup, One day series in Australia and Sri Lanka. Can how many of ur greats has done that?
Had Ganguly been in the Team, Rest of India woul dhave set Put up 500 as target with a good 100 from Saurav at a brisk pace (not like Dravid) and by his gentle inswingers he would have taken 2-3 wkts in the 2nd innings already.. What say?
Re: Get Ganguly
by Guru on Sep 26, 2008 06:36 PM
High hopes .. but atleast Ganguly is capable of such feats.. unlike the lacklustre bunch that's playing as Rest of India.. not one person other than Dhoni who is a crowd puller - not even Sehwag who keeps failing..
Re: Get Ganguly
by Bharat Talwar on Sep 26, 2008 07:11 PM
Please stop crying for Ganguly. Has played a long innings in hi cricket career. Let him take physical as well as mental rest now. Regards, BST
Re: Get Ganguly
by Arup Chakraborty on Sep 26, 2008 07:17 PM
Dada abhi poltics main interested hain. Next election main CM pot ke liye larega. Abhi ussko chodo aur samne dekho
Re: Get Ganguly
by shyamol banerjee on Sep 26, 2008 06:46 PM
he is the best but ... He will not get a chance because he failed in just one series... not like others who more number of series then him.... I think Dada's career is over now not because of his game or fitness but because of Politics by these Marathi Board of Cricket Control in India.... MBCCI
Instead of giving chance to players like Kaif who plays one gud innings in a decade,Players like ASNODKAR,Ravindra Jadeja etc shud be given chance ...who can score at a good rate ....
So many were talking about Kaif but he has proved yet again that when it matters and in big matches, he is a TOTAL flop. Badri and Raina have a brighter future.
Re: M.Kaif
by ramakrishnan on Sep 26, 2008 08:03 PM
I agree about raina..he is a good prospect, but the same cannopt be said of badri. He seems suspect against good fast bowling as he did against ishant and he has a limited array of strokes which wd be exposed against good teams.
Re: Re: Re: India A vs Aus A final
by malay lahiri on Sep 26, 2008 05:52 PM
PLEASE BRING GANGULY IN THE TEST SQUAD. WITH OUT GANGULY INDIA CANNOT WIN.M.K.LAHIRI
