RE:icl is to promote zee v group rather than cricket
by Dhosa on Nov 28, 2007 11:23 AM
LMAO!!! that means they will help boost the economy.. right? Another good reason to have ICL!!! lol
RE:icl is to promote zee v group rather than cricket
by Spiderman on Nov 28, 2007 03:13 PM
accoridng to icl..its there to promote indian cricket..but its clearly visible that icl is there to bring profits for essel groups
RE:RE:icl is to promote zee v group rather than cricket
by Lotiya Pathan on Nov 28, 2007 09:13 PM
They must make a profit to succeed. I really hope they do. ICL should get success to keep BCCI honest and on their toes..
Yes, ICL is promoting cricket and professional brand of management that BCCI is lacking for years and Indian cricket and Fans are paying for it..
BCCI is making profits for all these years and what has happened with all that money? Have you seen our stadiums? bad as they can get. What's the BCCI, the richest Board in the World doing with all those money??
RE:icl and bcci
by Sameer Bhagwat on Nov 28, 2007 10:52 AM
Wrong !!the public will watch both. In any case the 20-20 matches are in the evening and the Test will be over by then.
RE:icl and bcci
by Dhosa on Nov 28, 2007 11:16 AM
Ha ha Ha.. IPL came because of ICL. The differences were created by BCCI. The healthy competiton is good for any sector, and unaccountable corrupt body like BCCI needs one. What ICL is doing is ggod for the Indian cricket and we should support it.. We're in 21st centuary and it's about time for BCCI to get their act together...
RE:icl and bcci
by on on Nov 28, 2007 11:46 AM
haaaa. Mr.Spiderman, You're saying you don't like BCCIs dirty politics, then why are you so strongly supporting IPL and ditching ICL? Makes any sense? NOOOO... he he
BCCI created IPL to kill ICL and maintain their monopoly. If ICL gone then you will keep hating BCCIs dirty politics forever.. he he he
RE:RE:icl and bcci
by Spiderman on Nov 28, 2007 03:21 PM
yes...but bcci is now learning its mistake///even bcci is suffering in the hands of icl...all the domestic players r groomed by bcci..all these years they paid them..suddenly all of them quit bcci and join icl..so its huge blow for bcci..
people like dinesh mongia reetinder singh sodhi r cryping that they r not selected in to the team....they got their chances and they cudnt perform...
now bcci is allowing icl player to join ipl .but icl wont let icl player to join ipl...
eg.yousuf youhana ...he left icl and joined ipl..now they sued him and file a case in the court
icl is not there to promote indian cricket or to make indian cricket better than bcci ...its there to make profits...
chandra the zee groups owner was pissed off wen he had spat wit bcci regarding cricket telecast right..he intend to to take revenge on bcci..so he started this rebel league icl...kapil dev and kiran more came to icl just for money
RE:icl and bcci
by on on Nov 28, 2007 08:29 PM
Spiderman, he he he he.. You're assuming way too much. I regularly read the cricket news and I haven't read anything pertaining to what you're saying here. You need to take a break and think, how ICL will help BCCI get better. Please don't make fool out of yourself here..
Read couple of meesages posted here below somewhere, explaining why we need ICL. ICL should make money in order to succeed..
RE:icl and bcci
by Rakesh Narayan on Nov 28, 2007 01:28 PM
ICL is a great idea. Its like watching a baseball game after coming back to work. Good that people in India can finally watch good quality cricket without spending one full day, esp in India where watching a game is an endurance test.
India matches playing in INDIA given to Neo Sports, so many cities, Neo sports are off screened. DD will telecast only live matches and no highlights. This will be the backdrop for BCCI defenitely.
If the ICL does stick around a perfect scenario for Indian cricket will be to see BCCI and ICL domestic comps run parrallel with each other and then somewhere during the season ICL and BCCI teams competing with each other for a grand domestic price. So the domestic season could be basically 2 sub tournaments with playoffs between the 2 organisations. Meanwhile, a new superior body can sit on top of both BCCI and ICL and that body can be responsible for national cricketing matters (eg. selecting the Indian team). All the development/grass roots work can be done by the 2 competing domestic organisations (BCCI & ICL). This is the ideal scenario as it ensures competition between the 2 organisations leading to a better end product and at the same time it keeps the cricket scene in India unified so all players BCCI or ICL have the chance to play for India. However it would be naive to expect the BCCI to just give up its monopoly on cricket in this way and therefore this change must be imposed on them. The government should come in here and this should become an election issue and the government in power should pass this law and do what's required to restore the imbalance of power here.
RE:ICL CHAK DE!
by Chuck Kommana on Nov 28, 2007 09:07 AM
if we really want to wish ICL the best, we have do "something" other than posting a message here. Subscribe for Zee Sports which will generate income for ICL and ZEE and be sucessful. I did my part, if you already did it great.
RE:ICL CHAK DE!
by Dhosa on Nov 28, 2007 11:29 AM
Absolutely agrre with you Chuck. I don't know how many ICL games I will be able to watch but I still got Zee Sport as a gesture to support ICL basically.. I remember studying the free economy theory and the turnaround of New England Patriot Football team, helped by fans. And now Fans and the football team both are happy.. I see the same case here with ICL...
This league will continue for some more time but will remain a poor cousin of more illustrated IPL. I say this out of pragmatism and not out of any love for BCCI. Saying this let me also add ICL's first edition will attract attention as there is'nt enough 20/20 cricket around and India's 20/20 WC victory has created a huge market for it. So, the first edition though vying with Pakistan series will still get its share of viewership. By the time the second edition starts there will be more number of just retired international stars whom IPL may bid less than ICL and therefore would join ICL. There would also be a bunch of domestic players who by then would know that they would never make the cut at national level would also Join to keep ICL floating. But the big event is going to be IPL with more stars, more money, best of domestic players like Manoj Tiwarys and Rohit Sharmas. ICL's inherent weakness would be the fact that it was started to promote a sports channel than being other way around which is economically more lucrative. The good thing about all this is BCCI will be kept on its toes. Afterall only after ICL is announced BCCI came up with IPL therefor competition is welcome whereas losing players of the quality of Rayudu permenantly from national scene is the bad thing for which BCCI is to be blamed and not ICL
RE:Poor Cousin League
by sai ram on Nov 28, 2007 12:09 PM
My dear, Where was IPL before ICL?? ICL is already a winner of all sorts. It has made a monopoly (BCCI) shake. Thats good for the cricket in the long run.
RE:Poor Cousin League
by on on Nov 28, 2007 11:49 AM
Spiderman, The only person who has faith in BCCI is you.. he he he. Everybody else on this board are supporting ICL
RE:Poor Cousin League
by Spiderman on Nov 28, 2007 03:26 PM
i dont know y people hate bcci..
yes they did huge mistake..right they r now opening their eyes and correcting their mistakes
they r even allowing icl players to join ipl lifiting the ban
bcci is permanent and icl is temporary ...if icl is so good...all the best cricket players wud have choosen icl...if u see the teams of icl..most players r retired ,dropped, average players
RE:Poor Cousin League
by on on Nov 28, 2007 08:32 PM
Spiderman, You're very funny Turncoat. You were saying how much you hate dirty politics of BCCI and now see what you are saying here.. he he he he..
Did you notice you the only one defending IPL/BCCI here for last two days? Do you think you need to take a break and think a bit before thumping the keyboard? LMAO!!
RE:Poor Cousin League
by Dhosa on Nov 28, 2007 11:21 AM
Spiderman, What else we have done for last50 years? LOL.. You must have heard about the drama going on on Gery Kirsten, where BCCI is saying something and Kirsten is saying something else..lol
The BCCI is indepedent, unaccountable body with zilions of $$ on hand. The simple formlua to get spoiled, politicized and corrupt. Only way BCCI can improve is by having some healthy competitions and ICL can provide that..
IPL can simply becaue of ICL... Don't forget BCCI was the only board in the world against 20-20 tournament before the T20 cup...
Essel group means successful business. They don't just start ventures. They see that whatever they take up, they complete it in a grand manneer. They take pains to do every thing with a lot of planning, foresight, organization, and most importantly training during the competitions. See how wonderfully they are mentoring the artists in SAREGAMAPA. Every participant's skill and talents are exploited properly, and developed enormously. I am sure they have such plans for the budding cricketers too in future.
RE:RE:Speciality of ESSEL Group
by Saibaskar Parthasarathy on Nov 28, 2007 07:30 AM
Cricket is a sport not a well-rehearsed reality show buddy. There are no retakes in Cricket
RE:Speciality of ESSEL Group
by TandooriRasamKadhi rosgula on Nov 28, 2007 02:59 AM
I agree with you. The success of ICL depends on how well they offer it as an entertainment package to the public. I am very impressed with their going sofar. They have announced the launch date way in advanced and they are launching it as they planned. They have lauched the Zee Sport and opened it for free (for time being) with the live cricket series to get the international audience in the door. They're advertising hack out of the ICL league. I really like their ads for each of the team, as these ads carry a flavor of local cul*tu*re from each state for their respective teams. These are all the sign of very precise planning and methodical ex*ecu*tion of the plan. I am supporting ICL and subscribed Zee Sport already.
All these ICL efforts are all beyong the dream for Pathetic BCCI..
RE:RE:Speciality of ESSEL Group
by TandooriRasamKadhi rosgula on Nov 28, 2007 03:08 AM
I agree with you. The success of ICL depends on how well they offer it as an entertainment package to the public. I am very impressed with their going sofar. They have announced the launch date way in advanced and they are launching it as they planned. They have lauched the Zee Sport and opened it for free (for time being) to get the international audience in the door. They're advertising hack out of the ICL league. I really like their ads for each of the team, as these ads carry a flavor of local cul*tu*re from each state for their respective teams. These are all the sign of very precise planning and methodical ex*ecu*tion of the plan. I am supporting ICL and subscribed Zee Sport already.
All these ICL efforts are all beyong the dream for Pathetic BCCI, who can't even plan on hiring the new coach. Guru Gary is hired but Gary is claiming in the interview that he isn't sure yet what's his start date for the team India job yet. And that he can not start until after Aussie Series..lol.. way to go BCCI.
