Awright, the one-dayers (barring one) are out of the way; nothing to get ballistic about, but 'theek-hain' we won fair and square (some suggested a 'fixed' series but were disappointed).
Found some positives; lots of injuries, Gambhir scores a ton, Sehwag continues to defy all odds, Piyush Chawla seems a bright prospect, MSD seems to come of age so all in all a mixed bag, but as long as it is in India's favour it all ok!
Now come the tests; again we shall have our fair share of slandering; Sachin and his records, Dravid captaincy, Dada on the docks, Viru to be included or not....I suggest just sit back and enjoy the show, like we did for the one-dayers. Just sit back, pick up a large bucket of pop-corn (caramel) and enjoy the 'couch-potato' feel!
RE:ok guys...
by sen saban on May 14, 2007 07:09 PM
iam not particularly thrilled with caramel popcorn..doesnt go well with beer, in my humble opinion.
RE:ok guys...
by benhali on May 14, 2007 07:44 PM
Chill down; the true test for these will be in non-subcontinental conditions such as England. Let's see what happens then eh
is Sachin always responible for indian defeat in WC?? then what other 10 players doing????he always played for country if he score century u say he played for record he out for duck u say he dont play ......i remember the match against Srinlank in 96 Sefifinal WC when sachin got out all follwed him like little ducks....
RE:is Sachin always responible for indian defeat in WC??
by Priyadarshi achar on May 14, 2007 07:12 PM
But I would to remember Indian team from 1983 wc then 96
RE:is Sachin always responible for indian defeat in WC??
by Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi on May 14, 2007 07:08 PM
This is the problem. You cannot keep on thiking about what happended 8 years back and keep on saying I did this, I did that. You r great. Wt
matters is wt you did in the near past in the last year, wt you do today and wt you wanted to do in the near future.
Imagine how appraisal system works in your company if you r employed. Appraisals in a company will be given to you on the basis of your
performcance in the last quarter, not because you did extreemly well 4 years back.
This is simple logic. Sachin is paid to do a job and if he cant perform his responsibilitties to the best of his abilitties, he should be
either kicked out or he himself go out. Simple logic.
Remember nobody, even the most sachin's critic doesnt want him to go out of team. Wt they want is a good show from him and learn how to play
crucial innings and protect the team for defeats. SIMPLE.
RE:is Sachin always responible for indian defeat in WC??
by Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi on May 14, 2007 07:09 PM
This is the problem. You cannot keep on thiking about what happended 8 years back and keep on saying I did this, I did that. You r great. Wt matters is wt you did in the near past in the last year, wt you do today and wt you wanted to do in the near future.
Imagine how appraisal system works in your company if you r employed. Appraisals in a company will be given to you on the basis of your performcance in the last quarter, not because you did extreemly well 4 years back.
This is simple logic. Sachin is paid to do a job and if he cant perform his responsibilitties to the best of his abilitties, he should be either kicked out or he himself go out. Simple logic.
Remember nobody, even the most sachin's critic doesnt want him to go out of team. Wt they want is a good show from him and learn how to play crucial innings and protect the team for defeats. SIMPLE.
sir don bradman has said sachin is the onlyplayer who plays like him. all of us shud b proud of him instead of denouncing him and watch out 4 the test matches hes gonna hit some big centuries
RE:sachin is the best
by ramesh ramani on May 14, 2007 05:28 PM
Let him hit centuries against Australia, England, SA & SL then the whole Indian cricket fnas will admit he is a good player.
RE:sachin is the best
by srinivas uttarkar on May 14, 2007 05:31 PM
for ur kind information sachin has scored max ton against Aussies ok plz check the data
RE:sachin is the best
by KC on May 14, 2007 09:24 PM
right and check his centuries against so called miinoows including BD and they would not even constitue 10...... his max. centuriees are against Aus and SL ... If you call SL pitches are sub continent meant for scoring centuries I would like to know who else has scored there against Murali ??????? anyone ????? Lara ???NO .. Ponting - a big NO .. so speak with full facts.
RE:sachin is the best
by ganesh shyam on May 14, 2007 05:28 PM
DrPatil, Bradman passed away quiet sometime back & so what he said about Sachin is history..We wl defenitely praise/compare him like Bradman if/when he retires & encourage youngsters to take his slot...
RE:sachin is the best
by Bhalchandra Vartak on May 14, 2007 05:55 PM
I dont know who are we to decide when a player should retire...let the player take the decison. If a student fails in exam...does he quit studying? If you are doing a job ...you can have bad days ...so should they quit? Please think before you write.
RE:sachin is the best
by Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi on May 14, 2007 07:09 PM
This is the problem. You cannot keep on thiking about what happended 8 years back and keep on saying I did this, I did that. You r great. Wt matters is wt you did in the near past in the last year, wt you do today and wt you wanted to do in the near future.
Imagine how appraisal system works in your company if you r employed. Appraisals in a company will be given to you on the basis of your performcance in the last quarter, not because you did extreemly well 4 years back.
This is simple logic. Sachin is paid to do a job and if he cant perform his responsibilitties to the best of his abilitties, he should be either kicked out or he himself go out. Simple logic.
Remember nobody, even the most sachin's critic doesnt want him to go out of team. Wt they want is a good show from him and learn how to play crucial innings and protect the team for defeats. SIMPLE.
rahul should be replaced from captency and bring some seniors like zaheer or yuvaraj as captian. thowoff shewag,dhoni&Mpatel include youngstes who can perform good in ground
RE:Rahul should be replaced from captency
by Undertaker on May 14, 2007 05:11 PM
Why Rahul Dravid shoudl be made scapegoat of India's defeat in the WC?? If Sachin Tendulkar cannot face the pace of Dilhara, is it Dravid's mistake?? If Ganguly plays rash shot against Lanka, it is Dravid's mistake?? If seniors like Harbhajan cannot take wicket, it is Dravid's mistake?? Dravid has won the series against Bangladesh! He should be retained as captain!! And is there a better alternative?? Tendulkar does not want captaincy, Ganguly in a TV interview had said that he is now laoth to becoming captain! So, the best choice is Dravid!! Also, captaincy has not affected his batting, he is still batting well!! change of guard is required only if there are alternatives!!
RE:RE:Rahul should be replaced from captency
by ganesh shyam on May 14, 2007 05:31 PM
Our website is full of rubbish bcoz India is still divided state/lingowise..Grow up man learn to live together like Europeans...
RE:Rahul should be replaced from captency
by aatank on May 14, 2007 05:28 PM
All those who are Dada's critics and sachin's critics as well, would fall hard on their faces, as its been everytime, and they dont find a plc for themselves to hide their face, even BCCI didnt have th eguts this time to say that they dropping them, instead they spoke to them and persuaded them.
Anyway all this been tried manytimes, Dravid is good for nothing, that everyone know, he will fail again, and then there would be no justification.
He would be thrown out as captain and may have to continue as ordinary batsman as he earlier was. Usko uski aukaat yaad aani hi chahiye! ! ! !
And all this would happen in next few month, dont worry, saurav and sachin fans, lots ahead to cheer! ! !
RE:Rahul should be replaced from captency
by Bhalchandra Vartak on May 14, 2007 05:42 PM
Why Rahul Dravid shoudl be made scapegoat of India's defeat in the WC?? You better kno ur cricket more then Rahul Sachin and Dada are made the scapegoat..they are not even in the team. If Sachin Tendulkar cannot face the pace of Dilhara, is it Dravid's mistake?? Sachin scored 41 35 centuries without facing fast bowlers. If Ganguly plays rash shot against Lanka, it is Dravid's mistake?? Same as for Sachin...ten thousand oneday runs all by playing rash shots..he is very lucky. If seniors like Harbhajan cannot take wicket, it is Dravid's mistake?? Single handedly bowled out the Australians ..i think it was a fluke.
RE:Rahul should be replaced from captency
by Undertaker on May 14, 2007 05:49 PM
Bhalchandra Vartak pls note these points : 1) Is it past records that will help India notch up victories or it is current form?? The point i was making was that it was a collective team failure!! Thats why i mentioned Tendulkar, Ganguly and Harbhajan, all senior pros!!
2) I said that if Dravid is stripped off his captaincy, then that would amount to he being made scapegoat!! Right now, Tendulkar and especialy Ganguly have been made scapegoat!!
One question for you Mr bhalchandra Vartak :
"INDIA IS TOURING AUSTRALIA IN DECEMBER! CAN HARBHAJAN SINGH RUN THROUGH THE AUSTRALIAN TEAM IN MELBOURNE AND SYDNEY??" Answer this question with all honesty and you will get the answer!!
RE:Rahul should be replaced from captency
by aatank on May 14, 2007 05:56 PM
so Undertaker, you think can romesh powar can, you dont have the answer to your question yourselves, problem is under Dravid no body can ! ! lets face it, its sad but its true ! ! !
RE:RE:Rahul should be replaced from captency
by Undertaker on May 14, 2007 05:34 PM
Dravid will be the captain for the tour to england! On what basis can the selection committee drop him as captain now after the Bangladesh victory??
RE:RE:Rahul should be replaced from captency
by aatank on May 14, 2007 05:43 PM
No one performs well under Dravid, which means Dravid lacks leadershiop and motivational skills to take up players performance levels, thats his mistake Mr whatever you are! !
The moment saurav lands in South farica, team morale goes up and India wins test match first time in SA
This is what his presence makes a difference, this is what a great leader can do! ! !
RE:Rahul should be replaced from captency
by Undertaker on May 14, 2007 05:56 PM
Mr Aatank, you are saying that Ganguly's presence helped the team and they won in Jo'berg?? Then why did they lose in Durban and Capetown??
RE:Rahul should be replaced from captency
by Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi on May 14, 2007 06:26 PM
Captain doesn%u2019t hold a special tag. Captain is just another team player, but given responsibility to implement the strategies that were discussed in the team meetings with coach along with Senior players. In summary, Captain is just a facilitator and one of the 11 team members.
If team members don%u2019t take the responsibility and don%u2019t perform well, wt a Captain or a team lead can do?
Imagine in any industry, company or any institution, you have a team of engineers or a team of developers who have specific things to do. If individual players don%u2019t meet their target, how do you expect a captain or a team leader meet his target or meet his deadlines and complete the project in time?
Everybody right from CEO of the company to the Sweeper who is working in that company have their specific roles to play and if any of these players/members cant perform their role and job, captain can not perform the overall targets.
This is not a childish game or no player is a child to tell on each and every day, every morning wt you need to do.
RE:RE:Rahul should be replaced from captency
by Anirban Gomes on May 14, 2007 06:34 PM
Mr Aatank, I wonder why it was the FIRST test victory? Why did not we win any other test before, even when the great ganguly was the captain ... why did the great leader failed to win a single test in 2001 series ? I am sure you must be knowing the answer.
is Sachin always responible for indian defeat?? then what other 10 players doing????he always played for country if he score century u say he played for record he out for duck u say he dont play ......i remeebr the match against Srinlank in 96 Sefifanial WC when sachin got all went like little ducks....
I read a small article on Sachin and the fact that he is not bigger than the game itself. Whoever wrote it I think u r wrong mate..i seriously think Sachin is bigger than the game..
he has dominated the game for a long long time..not the other way around..he has also dominated the opposition, the media and the public..if someone had to be bigger than the game he would have to fulfill exactly these criteria..
I think all this is enough to say that he is a bit more bigger than the game of cricket!!
RE:Is Sachin bigger than the game?
by Priyadarshi achar on May 14, 2007 07:24 PM
yep you are right. Thats why India never won WC or won few Muti-Team Event (If I remember correctly only Hero Cup 1992)snice he started. Anyhow without sachin cricket was there and will be there. he is great No issue on that But He is not greater then the game of cricket
RE:Is Sachin bigger than the game?
by ganesh shyam on May 14, 2007 05:32 PM
yes u r right if he retires as a dignified player...Indians like to talk about past glory & Hero worship....grow up Indians look ahead for another Sachin...
RE:Is Sachin bigger than the game?
by dtr on May 14, 2007 07:28 PM
If he has become bigger than the game and the team, this is the right time for him to retire.
All those who are Dada's critics and sachin's critics as well, would fall hard on their faces, as its been everytime, and they dont find a plc for themselves to hide their face, even BCCI didnt have th eguts this time to say that they dropping them, instead they spoke to them and persuaded them.
Anyway all this been tried manytimes, Dravid is good for nothing, that everyone know, he will fail again, and then there would be no justification.
He would be thrown out as captain and may have to continue as ordinary batsman as he earlier was. Usko uski aukaat yaad aani hi chahiye! ! ! !
And all this would happen in next few month, dont worry, saurav and sachin fans, lots ahead to cheer! ! !
RE:Bad time ahead for DADA's and master blasters critics ! ! ! !
by Author on May 14, 2007 04:33 PM
No one will be thrown out. Sachin, dravid and (slow motion) ganguly will be playing till they wish to play.
RE:Bad time ahead for DADA's and master blasters critics ! ! ! !
by karthik on May 14, 2007 04:43 PM
for the last five years, dravid is the best batsman in the team, much bigger team player and match winner. ITs a fact, every cricket person acknowledges like gavaskar, kapil and even other guys from outside.
RE:Bad time ahead for DADA's and master blasters critics ! ! ! !
by aatank on May 14, 2007 04:49 PM
sorry they also acknowledge that he is poor captain, y dont u hear that???
they also say that surav is an enigma as leader and playert, y dont u hear tat [ said by geoff boycott on times now]?
is it that u want to hear things only that you like to hear mr. karthik[evidently south indian] by name, that is y u supporting dravid???
how will regionalism go out of selection process, when very fans display that?????
RE:RE:Bad time ahead for DADA's and master blasters critics ! ! ! !
by karthik on May 14, 2007 05:55 PM
Pls dont bring in regionalism here.. I am only responding to the comment that said dravid will become ordinary batsman. Ganguly's captaincy to a larger extent was complemented by dravid's consistency (For example in Australia). dravid was vice captain for a long time. we had record number of chases under him.. I am also greatly inspired by sachin untill the last 3 years and ganguly untill the last 2 years. By the way I am proud to be a south Indian as well as an Indian..
RE:Bad time ahead for DADA's and master blasters critics ! ! ! !
by aatank on May 14, 2007 06:18 PM
mr karthik, great to hear about your patriotism! ! !
But notice that, ganguly now is performing at his best, why you are not supporting his casue then ! ! !
Sehwag is a great player and if he gets his form back, India will be back to its winning ways! Dravid should persist with Sehwag until he gets his blazing form back! After that he will tear to pieces any attack in the world!! Including the Aussie attack!
RE:Guys be patient with Sehwag
by srinivas uttarkar on May 14, 2007 04:19 PM
heheheheeh Well Said he has to play gainst Bermuda Irish .......so he can play very well hehehehe
RE:RE:Guys be patient with Sehwag
by Author on May 14, 2007 04:27 PM
Ganguly cannot improve his own batting skills, how can he motivate shewag.He looks better in the FIRED brigade
RE:Guys be patient with Sehwag
by karthik on May 14, 2007 04:27 PM
no, ur assesment is wrong. The rules of the game should be simpler. IF u are not performing for 'x' number of games move over (Atappattu, Mark waugh). If you are not in good shape mover over (Lee,Aktar). SO, why have different rules for Sehwag? just because he played so well for so many years? so what? if he finds his form back in Domestic tournament (Which is much easier than finding one in Internationa matches), he will be back automatically. In the mean time, you can give opportunity to a deserving youngster. Imagine in their shoes, what they will think, if they cant find a place, even if somebody is not performing.. More over, now if we were winning all matches, retaining sehwag is fine. since we are at rock bottom, we cant afford to have passengers like sehwag and sachin..
RE:Guys be patient with Sehwag
by Rahul rana on May 14, 2007 05:48 PM
till how long we will wait, only for him india failed in the WC, I think Irfan Pathan is better choice, he is a great allrounder....
Dada ko Captain Banao. Sachin should open batting. dada will throw out all hopeless people like Karthik who is our future captain according to Chappel....
RE:Youngsters Bhagao....Cricket Bachao...
by prem anand on May 14, 2007 03:53 PM
There is no better player than ganguly who can groom a player like karthik.. dada'spresence will inspire young people
RE:Youngsters Bhagao....Cricket Bachao...
by karthik on May 14, 2007 04:44 PM
exactly, thats why ganguly should become a coach and quit playing.. well said..
