RE:Emburey miracle
by sabteam on Jun 06, 2007 01:01 AM
i am unable to catch ur imazination ... u r really great... apply a job in microsoft, Apple as creative engineer.
I dont think we should ever opt for English coaches. Generally they insist on players being copy book! Our players are known for their unorthodox methods and flair....An Enligh coach will try to enforce the English mindset (always defensive). Pietersen is the only exception in the English team and has managed to retain his unorthodox methods. Else, if you see any other Eng player, they are orthodox and are a real pain to watch!
RE:Never opt for English coaches!
by kaka on Jun 06, 2007 12:19 AM
ur post makes lot of sense... ford is a south african though...but was coaching in the english league for a bit...
Mpumelelo Mbangwa of Zimbabwe has also thrown his hat in the ring for the Indian coaching job There is speculation that K Oteino of Kenya has also shown interest Oteino played a major role in Kenya reaching WC semi finals in 2003
RE:Another last minute candidate--
by ACM on Jun 05, 2007 09:44 PM
Sure. And methinks Mashraffe Murtaza and Tamim Iqbal should be approached as well...
John Emburey is certainly not a right candidate for coach. He had a failed experience with the county teams.
I can't understand one thing is that the 2011 WC is being played in the sub-continent and why don't the BCCI recruit an Indian coach like Sandeep patil or even the most successful Indian Coach Ajit Wadekar. The BCCI knows only to do Lopa Potti of Dravid. Everybody knows that Dravid, Tendlya and Sourav might not play the 2011, then why are they been consulted or heard...............
RE:John Emburey as coach!!!! BCCI is a bunch of jokers
by kaka on Jun 05, 2007 08:44 PM
Are you OK to see the indian team continue its misery way when playing teams outside till 2011. Not that I am optmistic that a coach can do wonders to these superstars...
RE:John Emburey as coach!!!! BCCI is a bunch of jokers
by muthu kumar on Jun 05, 2007 08:50 PM
Gavaskar is the one who has spoiled cricket in ancient days,who is spoiling now to a great extent and will keep doing this in future.I think his wife will not allow him into the house and thats the reason he is involving in all unwanted matters.Who is he to decide on Indian Coach.Coaching Legend Dav Whatmore lost his chance because of gavaskar.Sunil should be sacked.
RE:John Emburey as coach!!!! BCCI is a bunch of jokers
by kumar viswanathan on Jun 05, 2007 09:00 PM
In current scenario it is best to have a Indian coach. He can give confidence to all the players senior or junior. A foreign coach will not be able to do good job with Indian team.
RE:John Emburey as coach!!!! BCCI is a bunch of jokers
by ACM on Jun 05, 2007 09:50 PM
If India are to win abroad, they need coaches who understand the minds and grounds abroad. They had an Auzzie, a Kiwi and it's time they went with a WI, SA or ENG coach - esp SA. Indians have always struggled in SA type conditions and it's time they figured out what goes wrong there because by the look of things, the Indian bowlers are as quick as folks from SA and on paper, India has better spinners and batters. Moreover, India's biggest traditional weakness is fielding and who better to teach fielding to India than someone from SA. Ford for me.
Believe me, I have lost complete interest in cricket nowadays, same old faces in indian team, if we watch a film two to three times , we get bored here we have some old horses running on field, who claim to be great players when they cannot reach quater final in world cup and seem to justify themselves as greats by defeating bangladesh. I guess our local club teams will give bangladesh heavy bashing.
RE:indian cricket
by avinash on Jun 05, 2007 08:48 PM
Absolutely true. In one movie great villain Ajit says' " oh shut up darling, purane kutton se main tang aa chuka hun". It is applicable to indian cricketeers also.
RE:indian cricket
by ACM on Jun 05, 2007 09:59 PM
Winning and losing is part of the deal. One should enjoy the day their team wins and forget the day their team loses and move on. One feels disheartened only when they attach too much importance to begin with. It's only a sport - not life and death. Only complaint about cricket is that other sports suffer because of the popularity of (national) cricket but that's not cricket's fault.
RE:RE:indian cricket
by ACM on Jun 05, 2007 10:06 PM
There is no such thing as too much cricket. Hey...there is an off button too! Or follow tabletennis, tennis, hockey, billiards, shooting, kabbaddi. These sports need followers in India too.
RE:indian cricket
by kaka on Jun 05, 2007 08:21 PM
that is why you should watch/listen to other games too. The Asian womens team thrashed African womens team earlier today. Did you saw that mate...
RE:indian cricket
by Jayanth Shah on Jun 05, 2007 08:31 PM
i agree that cricket is getting kind of repetitive now, but tell me, and this is not only to aimed at you - say we do chuck sachin, ganguly (NOT DRAVID - he is still our best player), sehwag, harbhajan out of the team. that means bringing in youngsters, which is good. but youngsters take time to adapt to the game and will understandably fail sometimes. my question is, most india fans are so impatitent, and inconsiderate and cynical - they will just end up criticizing these young players and then call for old players to come back.
i will give u an example 2005 - ganguly batting like a rabbit, doing terribly. every single india fan was calling for him to be thrown out (dont deny it anyone!) players like suresh raina came in, who did well at the start of his career, and then last year, around the champions tropy and before, he lost his form. and no doubt, many india fans were calling him uselss, and calling for ganguly to come back. now, they are calling for ganguly to be thrown out and young players to come in.
CRAZY FANATIC INDIA FANS - IF A YOUNG PLAYER COMES INTO THE TEAM, YOU MUST BE PATIENT AS IT TAKES A WHILE TO SETTLE IN AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF INTERNATIONAL CRICKET. THEY MUST BE PERSISTED WITH, SO THEY CAN ESTABLISH THEMSELVES AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL.
that being said, it is silly to bring in a team of 11 youngsters - experience is needed - it will be interesting to see how ford (i hope its him) goes about this issue
RE:Brian Lara
by kaka on Jun 05, 2007 08:16 PM
We all saw how many intelligent decisions he made in the world cup. He would have been sacked if he had not retired.
RE:Brian Lara
by kaka on Jun 05, 2007 08:16 PM
On the contrary no one mentions Nasser Hussain. That guy is always a clever thinker. I dont know if he is interested in coaching at all...
RE:Brian Lara
by Ramesh Mokkapati on Jun 05, 2007 08:20 PM
I think Hussain will not be keen in taking this offer as he is making more money here in England as Cricket Pundit on Telly.
RE:Brian Lara
by kaka on Jun 05, 2007 08:22 PM
that guy is driven by power and control. When he was the captain of the English team he had total control...
RE:Brian Lara
by Jayanth Shah on Jun 05, 2007 08:34 PM
because he was captain... i agree hes a clever thinker, which means he would not be tempted by the india job. he knows not to get himself into such a dangerous job, as the pressures involved are too high. although it would be good to see him coaching one day
I somehow think the BCCI is making a mistake by considering people who are yet to prove themselves (as coaches, that is). Either Dav Whatmore should have been considered, especially since he was interested, or John Wright should have been requested to return and re-construct the team that was so skillfully destroyed by Greg Chappell.
RE:Proven Candidate
by kaka on Jun 05, 2007 08:13 PM
What has whatmore proved. Taken two teams with low expectations and that were minnows to the next level. Let's wait and see where Bang cricket goes? With SL they have a good talent pool and still uncorrupted with advertisement dollars.
RE:Proven Candidate
by on Jun 05, 2007 08:23 PM
Greg Chappel did not destroy indian team but he brought out the real picture of our players outside. He was not like other coaches who dances to tunes of captains. But chappel showed the real drama behind screen. Our players are over confident, over zeolous and think they are above all critisim, noone dares to ask them about their failures. They will play good in one match and sit idle for 3 to 4 matches.
RE:Proven Candidate
by Jayanth Shah on Jun 05, 2007 08:35 PM
kaka - sri lanka has one of the worst domestic cricket scenes and a very unorganized cricket board. yet, whatmore was still able to take them to win the world cup. and as far as bangladesh cricket goes, he has set the wheels rolling. its got nothing to do with him how bangla cricket goes after he has left. that is up to the new coach... use ure brain
RE:Proven Candidate
by kaka on Jun 05, 2007 08:38 PM
use ure brain - sorry what. comprehendo? i would have liked to see your rebuttal.
As I SAID both teams and fans had low expectations period. Bang continue to fare poorly on seamers paradise. They were lucky to play SA in Guyana during the World Cup rather than Barbados.
RE:Proven Candidate
by kaka on Jun 05, 2007 08:25 PM
how can you say this..:) when the popular belief is that he single handedly destroyed Pathan's bowlign by making him bat at #3....
RE:Proven Candidate
by Shankar HR on Jun 05, 2007 09:42 PM
Coach can't bat and bowl only plays has to do that
dn't blame the coach because our people are useless Sunil Gawaskar is no 1 idiot to sacked Whatmore and he wants Indian should be the next coach why these buggers are considering other country coach's
After giving fancy pay package to Greg Chappell and making him coach for a long time did Indian team ever get benifitted? Did the Indian team ever learnt its lessons from the past? Was Indian team predictable at any point of time in the last 20 years? How does a coach make a difference with so many failures in the past? Is it possible to coach Indian team?
RE:Does Indian team need a coach?
by sabteam on Jun 06, 2007 01:12 AM
I say indian team learned from past mistakes..
When wright is there.. India reach finals and loses there.. to overcome this Chappel coached indians to not enter in finals so there is no final loss :))
RE:Does Indian team need a coach?
by kaka on Jun 05, 2007 08:14 PM
your questions are excellant. I guess this is why what Ian Chappel suggested(players should look into a mirror) is a good idea.
RE:Does Indian team need a coach?
by Jayanth Shah on Jun 05, 2007 08:36 PM
india won 17 matches in a row chasing targets. a world record... and in the ones where they werent chasing, they still did well in most. that was under greg chappel
Why not an Indian coach ? by AR on Jun 05, 2007 07:33 PM | Hide replies | Hide message
Sandeep Patil would be the best available choice, he is very strict when it comes to fitness. I heard he doesnt allow the batsmen and bowlers to touch the bat and ball without rigorous exercise. We all know how he transformed the Kenyan team in 2003 World cup. Present India cricketers (playing team) are aware of his habit so none of them (senior cricketers like Dravid/Ganguly and Sachin) want him to be the coach.
RE:What is wrong with the following message? someone reported for abuse, what a sad thing?
by kaka on Jun 05, 2007 08:04 PM
This is the thing with indians. If they dont like the content of a message that they dont subscribe simply report it...Vow..
