Rahul Should step down from skipper as He is not able to play free as he did in the past when in middle overs 20 - 35 india's run rate was quite good around 4.5 -5.0.He has a lot worries regarding the OutCome of the match rather than Playing Natural game. After every match he is keep on saying that We are learning .Is Rahul Dravid is there for learning and if so then how much time does he need to learn when you have the world cup ahead.
RE:Dravid Should Step Down
by Suman Bhat on Feb 08, 2007 11:41 AM
The media is being unfair towards Rahul Losing a match will definitly draw criticism Even ind lost many series under ganguly ;s captaincy but he did not resign he nejopyed captaincy b%u2019cuz his mentor dalmiay ahd the power in bcci his success as captain is b%u2019cuz of contributions of dravid laxman, kumble and sachin and In WC it was sachin who won match against Pakistan to take team to semis but nobody remembers his effort. Ganguly took the credit as successful captain but dravid shared the success with other players and he accepted defeat on his responsibility in front of media. When ganguly was captain if team was defeated dravid used press briefs as VC. And dravid shares dies with other players when ind won match. Dravid only captain for 16 months How much success ganguly got in first 16 months of his captaincy?? Ganguly would be nothing if it were not Dravid and Laxman that not only saved us from embrassment but also earned accolades for India when they played against Australia. And in Pakistan ind won sereies when dravid was captain, ganguly was not part of playing eleven.
RE:RE:Dravid Should Step Down
by subrajit basu on Feb 08, 2007 12:43 PM
Mr Bhat, I dont want to undermine Dravid as a captain nor as a batsman. He is one of the greatest Indian Batsman ever. But you has commented on Sachin and party being there in the team and hence Ganguly could win more matches as a captain. But please get your facts right. They are there in the team even now, so why isnt India performing as it used to do earlier. See winning a loosing depends a lot on present form of cricketers. And unfortunately its not good now. Btw when Ganguly took over as a captain, Indian team was in a pathetic condition with the match fixing stuff still going on. But he did make up a very good team. I am sure Dravid, Sachin and all did help me out in this regard. So neither did Ganguly make this team single handedly nor did he destroy it as well. Ya he did back his players a lot. And Dravid playin onedayers is becoz of that backing up. He knew Dravid had the potential in him. He was right as we all can see. Dravid would not have a place in the Indian team since he was pathetic in oneday with his slow batting. But Ganguly asked him to play as a wicketkeeper instead of the regular keepers and hence keep his place in the team. So please get you facts right b4 commenting on anyone. Btw I am a Bengali but Sachin and Dravid are way ahead in my list of my fav players that Ganguly. Though I njoy watching him hit sixes as well...
RE:Dravid Should Step Down
by santosh kumar on Feb 08, 2007 11:45 AM
Sorry ravi rathore, i am not agreed with your view. Hear learning means any thing not only his bating performance. It may be learning about his captaincy about the others player performance, it may be any thing. Dravid position is perfect according to the team india. There must be anyone on that position who maintain the runrate and stable the team india. So, dear according to me Dravid position is perfect in indian team.
RE:Dravid Should Step Down
by JAYANTKUMAR MAJITHIA on Feb 08, 2007 01:02 PM
boss first learn criketing knowledge then try and give remarks to anybody.may it be dravid,sachin or ganguly it always is a team game and some one gives good contribution to the game then his effort cannot be hidden no matter how great or dominating captain is.therefore this kind of comments should not be given. jayant,kolkata
not comparable technically mentally batting wise,fielding wise leading wise... two altogether different personality. But one thing in common both play for india. Saurav is a great leader,he maintains the unity n the hunger for a win b the team in any position ,his inspiration was such that india use to fight till lost most of the times pulling of a win from a near impossible win situations u remmeber the match against SAfrica in the champions trphy in 2002 imideaitly after the natwest trophy win in england in 2002 b4 WC2003. But that is not the case with dravid.Now if our team gets in a diff situation it dosnt fight till last ball.India under chappel n dravid is lossing consistently than winning just opp during saurav n john's time. Ofcourse dravid is a better batsman than saurav but remember during sauravs time he use to b the unbreakable wall n his performance was so consistent under him look back n chech his stats if any1 dosn remember n with it check the dravid's contribution in every win of india under saurav...U ALL WILL GET UR ANSWER..JUST CHECK BUDDIES
I think dravid should step down as captain .he isthe best batsman of india and when theres a crisis situation or india is in trouble chasing for example against aus in a test match which india won in aus,he helped in chasing n winning came out not out,against pak in wc,again vs pak in pak 2004 series's 4th match.Noe as a captain he has to think more n worries more in addition to batting,n ofcourse he is agressive but from inside he dosn show his agression as saurav use to and he is not as tough as saurav in manaowing his words.so may be theres a fued between him n chappel over selection of players.saurav use to fight openly with selectors n coach for selecting the players he want but that is not the case with dravid n may be theres a feued....wat u say dear frnds
RE:May be a fued
by Suman Bhat on Feb 08, 2007 11:42 AM
Ganguly was dropped b'cuz he was non performing captain, poor form and pathatic batting almost 3 yers of later stages of captains. but he still he enjoyed the captaincy b'cuz dlamiya his mentor had power in bcci. he was dropped b'cuz ICC put the ban And gnaguly went to media dn daily basis accusing selection commtee, senior players and he used the strong politicians influnece to getback to backdoor entry and ganguly is only politician cricketer who used media and politics to gain public attention and symapty. he destroyed the team spirit when he vomotted drssing room conflict infront of media during Xim tour and he backstabbed dalmiay when dalmiay lost his power and changed party. laxman, kumble were also out of team even after good performance. but they never make such noise in media or never accused anybody. And during odi match in Nov 2005 crowed humilitte dravid and team even before the match started, some ppl tried to hit dravid and chappell. dravid was blamed for gnaguly's outset b'cuz he made captain. Now also just 2 days before the how come confedential report published by tv channell?? how can player become 12th man overnight just b'cuz he won award when there are experienced players are doing well in domistic cricket. is not that politics?? this is a shaemful nobody humiliated ganguly in Blr during last test he played against pakistan H e played as if he was playing for pakistan in ind uniform Ganguly is cheap politician
Dravid is not the material to lead from the front. He is always tense, dry mouth and can not handle pressure with confidence, on field or off field. His way of handling the press and media is very shabby compared to impeccable style of Saurav.
Never ever compare Saurav episode with anything else. A standing captain with so much success can not be treated like this and just remember the face of Jumping More! His crooked smile, his persona non grata attitude to Saurav remember everything and you find some reason if not logic behind the behaviour. Saurav has slapped all the critics with his bat. Blind Persons like Raj Dung or K More are no longer even heard in the press and media. The behaviour of the crowd may be wrong but the reason was right. Bengal never stop short of showing their emotions to the nation. 'No Kapil no test' cry roared the crowd once with banners and posters when Gavaskar -Kapil row came to the surface and Kapil was dropped. Bengal connection notwithstanding, Saurav is always a special hero for his aggressiveness, patriotism and captaincy. When you treat that idol shabbily protests are bound to come. Emotions are like glass - fragile and to be handled with care. The protests at Eden that time were not limited to Bengalis alone. It gathered a snowballing effect, entire country joined, the media, the press, the people from all Indian cities and villages, the film stars the politicians-all. It became a sort of peoples movement. It haapened never before in the World history of sports and what a surprise! You keep the man out- he shines in the press media and people's hearts. You bring in him and he dazzles with the bat. There is really something in him, call it determination call it charisma or whatever. He is really the captain material. Mob psychology is something different and its expressions do not necessarily conform the parliamentary standards or even parliamentary standards are falling now a days. Crowd behaviour is always something different in Eden. One lakh people- can you ever imagine in other smaller grounds. Any priliminary chapter in a sociology book will tell you how numbers are importannt in irrational crowd behaviour. I still however believe that the reason may be right but the action was wrong.
RE:Dravid, Saurav and Eden
by akshay bhardwaj on Feb 08, 2007 09:55 AM
I think dravid should step down as captain .he isthe best batsman of india and when theres a crisis situation or india is in trouble chasing for example against aus in a test match which india won in aus,he helped in chasing n winning came out not out,against pak in wc,again vs pak in pak 2004 series's 4th match.Noe as a captain he has to think more n worries more in addition to batting,n ofcourse he is agressive but from inside he dosn show his agression as saurav use to and he is not as tough as saurav in manaowing his words.so may be theres a fued between him n chappel over selection of players.saurav use to fight openly with selectors n coach for selecting the players he want but that is not the case with dravid n may be theres a feued....wat u say dear frnds
RE:Dravid, Saurav and Eden
by akshay bhardwaj on Feb 08, 2007 11:07 AM
not comparable technically mentally batting wise,fielding wise leading wise... two altogether different personality. But one thing in common both play for india. Saurav is a great leader,he maintains the unity n the hunger for a win b the team in any position ,his inspiration was such that india use to fight till lost most of the times pulling of a win from a near impossible win situations u remmeber the match against SAfrica in the champions trphy in 2002 imideaitly after the natwest trophy win in england in 2002 b4 WC2003. But that is not the case with dravid.Now if our team gets in a diff situation it dosnt fight till last ball.India under chappel n dravid is lossing consistently than winning just opp during saurav n john's time. Ofcourse dravid is a better batsman than saurav but remember during sauravs time he use to b the unbreakable wall n his performance was so consistent under him look back n chech his stats if any1 dosn remember n with it check the dravid's contribution in every win of india under saurav...U ALL WILL GET UR ANSWER..JUST CHECK BUDDIES
RE:Dravid, Saurav and Eden
by Suman Bhat on Feb 08, 2007 11:39 AM
The media is being unfair towards Rahul Losing a match will definitly draw criticism Even ind lost many series under ganguly ;s captaincy but he did not resign he nejopyed captaincy b%u2019cuz his mentor dalmiay ahd the power in bcci his success as captain is b%u2019cuz of contributions of dravid laxman, kumble and sachin and In WC it was sachin who won match against Pakistan to take team to semis but nobody remembers his effort. Ganguly took the credit as successful captain but dravid shared the success with other players and he accepted defeat on his responsibility in front of media. When ganguly was captain if team was defeated dravid used press briefs as VC. And dravid shares dies with other players when ind won match. Dravid only captain for 16 months How much success ganguly got in first 16 months of his captaincy?? Ganguly would be nothing if it were not Dravid and Laxman that not only saved us from embrassment but also earned accolades for India when they played against Australia. And in Pakistan ind won sereies when dravid was captain, ganguly was not part of playing eleven.
If someone who played for india 5 or 10 years, say somthing then these stupids will tell, they didn't do much or giving advise from commentary box easy, match pressure is different. They used to give opposite the advices. They learnt to earn better than business men. And they made some partnership with them. thats y they supported each other. y dravid not had the same confident on gambir which he had in shewag? wt abt his morale(gambir's)? he getting indian team to graveyard. hope he'll do it in time and style b4 april
Manager has a job to do and he did - I hope honestly. If Rahul does not like it - too bad. There was no question - he and Sachin were responsible for the 3rd test defeat. No amount of explanation is needed there. If there is an issue in the dressing room - manager has a job to do to report to his employer. If Rahul loves only 'good' report only - well that could be his expectation but it does not justify slamming the manager and hittig him below the belt; - That's just not a good cricket. Rahul is unnecessarily getting tensed and he needs to calm down!
RE:What is wrong with the Manager's Report!
by chrsvd pavan kumar on Feb 08, 2007 10:28 AM
I totally agree with you. Rahul is generally a composed person and a gr8 and prolific run getter for india. I believe the captaincy pressure is showing on him. He should not over-react to the things. Manager has to do his duty and Captain/coach his. I believe if Rahul is to preserved and be "the gr8 wall of india", he should immediately be removed from the burden of captaincy. In this connection one quotation need be placed here... as Steve Waugh rightly said once "if bowlers bowl really well, if the batsmen do their job perfectly.. and if the fielding is done properly... the question of problem for captain does not arise"
RE:What is wrong with the Manager's Report!
by on Feb 08, 2007 09:25 AM
Sanjib Meitei
I thought Rahul is sensible and responsible captain, but his reaction against the complain by team manager seem somewhat contradictory to my perception. Such attitude and irresponsible act (backing someone who is totally out of form) which lead to the defeat is really hurting. He must remember that millions of Indians love cricket as much as the few players who are lucky enough to represent Indian team. Being the captain of Indian team doesn't mean that he can insult a cricket loving person.
Why should it matter if the tour manager is not prominent or does not have a great cricketing pedigree? If Chetan Desai is performing his job to fullest extent possible and if it is within his rights to report any such incidents, then there is nothing wrong with what he did. If Chetan behaved unethically and leaked the report to public or somehow tried to gain political mileage by distorting the facts in his report, then it%u2019s a totally different issue. Just assuming that only great players of past generations make good coaches or managers is ridiculous. Take a look at some of the good coaches or managers in other sports, most of them were not great players of their time, just average at best. Case in point is Phil Jackson, ex-head coach of Chicago Bulls and current head coach of LA Lakers basketball clubs (NBA); He won 6 NBA championships with Chicago and three with Lakers. Why should cricket be any different? I am not comparing Chetan Desai with Phil Jackson - just merely pointing out that judging a person solely based on his stature in cricket history is wrong.
RE:Dravid is wrong!
by Ch Ravi on Feb 08, 2007 11:24 AM
Yes, Captains comments always carry a storng message. Dravid seems to be falling short of captaincy material, He should be very careful on and off the field perticularly before raising any point before the media. A manager need not be a prominent person or a great cricket pedigree. He should be able to carry out his responsibilties as per the expectations of the organization that has put him in that place. Dravid should concentrate on winning the matches and leading the team in right direction
Whether the Rediff site is still getting the same hit count as it was in the begining ? (Except for the days when there is a match going on). Useless news like IIM Crorepati Salary, Feud between X and Y, Y divorced X.... some good stuff plz....
RE:rahul says!
by naveen mahale on Feb 08, 2007 09:25 AM
Without any spirit nobody can win matches and rahul has won more matches for india as a player and captain thats y is called Mr dependable in india
