i challenge u all sachin worshippers.can u tell me one instance where in a test match,india was chasing a fourth innings target of above 200 runs and sachin scored well and won the match for india?its a challenge.pl answer me.there r innumerable times steve waugh,ponting,lara and inzamam have done in the fourth innings.they r the real champions.sachin is mere a pretender,and a paper tiger.
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by Ramelton Pandya on Mar 06, 2007 11:57 PM
If you think 4th innings is the most important innigs of the game, then you need to do 2 things - 1. Understand the game of crikcet, I don't hink you do. 2. If you can't, go and invent your own where only 4th innings is played.
And yes, if the "Final' thing is the only important thing then please explain as to why do they build the Foundation first before they build the roof. Unless you have invented a new way of building then please share it with us all.
It is said we are our worst enemies. You certainly prove it.
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by manish garg on Feb 01, 2007 11:22 PM
please improve ur cricket knowledge dear before writing this . do u know whats the average of ponting and lara in subcontinent and inzamams outside subcontinent. pontings average is below 20 . sachins average is better then them in both home as well as away
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by savita on Feb 02, 2007 12:20 PM
First of all,you want Sachin to win matches for India when the team is in touble, right? what would you definitely define as trouble? Indian team is in trouble only after Sachin gets out. That is precisely why he takes so much pressure knowing that no one can play after him and that itself brings about his downfall most of the time. apart from the Pakistan test match where 5 wickets could not score 16 runs and that too in a test match, I also remeber so many one dya where after Sachin got out , the rest of the team could hardly score any runs, all of a sudden the wicket becomes unplayable! hOW COULD ANYBOBY FORget all India's past records? The minute we had 4 wickets down, we would be suddenly all out within 12 or 14 runs.Can anyone forget the relaince world cup semifinal whcih we lsot against Srilanka? Sachin and sanjay manjrekar gave a good opening stand of over a hundred.It was a low score which India had to chase. After Sachin and Manjrekar got out after playing beautifully, suddenly no one could score even one ren. Th entire team collapsed in 20 runs or so. I can still remember Vinod kambli crying on the kolkatta pitch! Now when you talk of sachin bringing the team out of difficult positions remeber that the team is not in difficult position till he himself gets out and this adds to his pressure because he is not confident of others delivering the results..
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by naveen dhanerwal on Feb 19, 2007 11:59 AM
frds just leave that topic..that full named *veer singh*(what a name lol) is full of minf sick.u can give him 100s proofs of sachin's greatness but he won't accept that. i m sure about this then y we r discussing such a person.their a so many site here n everyone can check his profile n record by match by match. let him check first.right frds
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by jyothirmayee camasamudram on Feb 23, 2007 11:25 AM
You are right Naveen.. We should stop discussing about this topic. It is of no use.
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by jyothirmayee camasamudram on Feb 23, 2007 11:22 AM
I just want to remind World Cup 2003, if we haven't forgotten it. Please try to remember our 2nd match in the touranment against Aus. We just made 125 runs.Though we lost the match badly, I just want bring this into picture that it was only sachin who offered some resistance to the Aus attack. It was because of sachin we would reach finals. I agree that he didn't perform well in the finals but then what about 10 other players in team. Why couldn't they perform well on that day. STOP blaming sachin for everything. They are 10 other players who are equally responsible for India loosing many final matches. Every match is equally important as a final. If you can't perform well in preliminaries how can you reach finals.Try to use bit of common sense before making such stupid statements. Also try to respect our players for their efforts. It's easy to talk but difficult to perform. Try visualize urself as a player playing for a country like India. Probably then you will understand how it feels to read such things sitting other side.
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by tirumalapuram venu gopal on Mar 10, 2007 05:19 PM
no doubt sachin is one of the good players in cricket but he's not the great player.if u say he's one among 11 payers,no issues,agreed.
RE:paper tiger sachin
by anand pandey on Feb 01, 2007 04:56 PM
u are really an idiot; i think u shoud check all records during 1996 to 1999 sessions. u will find ur answer. there is long list of sachin's performance.
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by Janardhana on Feb 01, 2007 07:02 PM
I am not a great fan of Tendulkar. Still I believe he is a great player. He is the best one day player India has produced and won many matches for India ( At Sharja against Australia, and at last world cup against Pakistan are few examples). Only of last 3-4 years, he is not in great form. However people want to compare Tendulkar with Lara, Ponting, Steve Waugh and then want to see their countryman as the best and when that doesn't happen try to criticise Tendulkar badly. Criticism at Tendulkar should be looked at this way. Looking in proper perspective, as mentioned earlier, he is still India's best ODI batsmen, and definitely one of the best in world. May be he has not won single handedly from a loosing position like Lara or ponting have done, even these people do it once in a life time and tendulkar's Innings at Sharja against Australia is definitely one such Innings. When it comes Test matches also he is a fine batsman, may be Dravid with his match winning innings at Adelaide, Headingly, and Kingston may edge him out as the best test batsman. But he is still one the best in test also. Only draw back for such a great player is he is yet to give dominant match winning performance like Dravid did in foriegn countries. But tell me other than Dravid who has done it for India consistently and also one should not that whenever Tendulkar played a good Innings, other members of team let him down. In Australia this does not happen. That is why Ponting is part of many wins.
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by Bharat Chhabra on Feb 01, 2007 08:35 PM
If he makes a hundred, he is playing for himself, if he doesn't he should be dropped from team.. what a discussion! Ironically, this is what news channels are also doing.. I cant imagine how can someone be so cruel against Him. Mind the capital H!
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by mihir rajda on Feb 01, 2007 04:41 PM
biggest curse 4 sachin shld b citizens like u..wrld envies sachin n d country he plays 4..if he was nt a cricketer in india m sure u wld also b 1 of his worshippers..n r u sure u tlkng abt d man who hs scored max runs in ne form of international cricket??was don bradman an idiot to call sachin as his clone?? i wld rather support don bradman den an idiot like u whu r gd 4 nthng n r d biggest spoilsports..i dare u,,if v win wrld cup n sachin outperforms all ur said champions like lara, inzamam, den pls stay home n dnt celeberate d victory..or atleast feel ashamed n sorry 4 ur statements n den jst think if u deserve to celeberate or nt..i wld rather conclude its so sad dat u r an indian...yes, on behalf of all sachin worshippers, i conclude it dat v r really ahamed n feel embarassed 4 citizens like u, who rather den taking pride wld destroy d efforts of a human whuz gvn his life 4 d country..man, u cnt dare to point a finger to sch a discipline and dedicated players u have..
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by execute on Feb 01, 2007 04:54 PM
I am not sachin worshipper, but let me tell u against pakistan in India, in the 4 ininng when all batsman got out on extremely turning wicket even paki batsman could not play well on that track in all 22 players only sachin played that in 4th inning an made century, although india lost that match not because of sachin sachin took india to the verge of victory. but other players could not support him and india lost.
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by veer singh on Feb 01, 2007 05:11 PM
i had seen that match myself.he played only for his century in that knock.any other player would have won the match for india in that situation and position.
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by padma kumar on Feb 03, 2007 12:16 AM
Stupid think why any other player was NOT there till that time. Thats wat speaks about his performance. He is able to play till the end then y not others?
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by Ankit on Feb 01, 2007 11:51 PM
Oh really!! Then why didn't anyone else win the match for India?? Veer Singh, you are so full of it!! Think before you run your big gab....
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by Ramelton Pandya on Mar 06, 2007 11:49 PM
Just hsut up and take a hike. Sachin is THE BEST since Bradman. Also remember that Bradman himself said so. If you think you know better than Bradman then you need the services of a neuro sugeon.
RE:paper tiger sachin
by on Feb 01, 2007 04:35 PM
I dont know about sachin but dear just take a look at this table How the current batsmen have fared in the fourth innings Inns NO Runs Ave Career ave Dravid 23 7 720 45.00 54.37 Lara 35 5 1182 39.40 51.11 Kirsten 29 9 735 36.75 44.87 Tendulkar 31 9 785 35.68 56.57 S Waugh 30 7 533 23.17 51.25
U would see that waugh, lara are in the same boat as sachin:-)
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by afzal alam on Feb 01, 2007 04:49 PM
True Man..he is not able to do this for win .But he did it once for saving the game which one his 1st hundred in TEST..But chq othere what he did.. Can anybody have this record ODI-41(100) Test - 35(100) MOM -53 MoS -12 Run- 14768 100 against every country out 40 hundred 31 is wining one ANYbody having this record
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by rakesh ramachandran on Feb 16, 2007 06:27 AM
where did the 136 aganist pakistan in the chennai test 2000-01 come from, even after having a injured back!!!!!!!!
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by Aditya Srivastava on Feb 01, 2007 04:31 PM
though sachin isnt in d habit of playin big knocks in d 4th innings of a match, he has often given big partnerships which hv set up d match for india. moreover, his big knocks in d first innings has often helped india manage innings victories. 86 centuries and over 25000 runs dont come frm a bad player. wid his bowlin and battin both, he has won mny odis as well as tests for team india.
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by veer singh on Feb 01, 2007 04:47 PM
my question is very straight.name just one match winning knock in a fourth innings in his so called illustrious career playing more than 100 test matches.u can not name one.because he does not have one.i really pity the indians who eulogise and glorify sachin calling him genius.
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by Parag Purankar on Mar 09, 2007 01:05 AM
Pls check the link which gives his all matches score while batting in 4th Ining. http://statserver.cricket.org/guru?sdb=player;playerid=1934;class=testplayer;filter=basic;team=0;opposition=0;notop position=0;season=0;homeaway=0;continent=0;country=0;notcountry=0;groundid=0;startdefault=1989-11-15;start=1989-11-15;enddefa ult=2007-01-06;end=2007-01-06;tourneyid=0;finals=0;daynight=0;toss=0;scheduledovers=0;scheduleddays=0;innings=4;result=0;foll owon=0;seriesresult=0;captain=0;keeper=0;dnp=0;recent=;viewtype=aro_list;runslow=;runshigh=;batposition=0;dismissal=0;bowposi tion=0;ballslow=;ballshigh=;bpof=0;overslow=;overshigh=;conclow=;conchigh=;wicketslow=;wicketshigh=;dismissalslow=;dismissals high=;caughtlow=;caughthigh=;caughttype=0;stumpedlow=;stumpedhigh=;csearch=;submit=1;.cgifields=viewtype Hope you got the answer
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by padma kumar on Feb 03, 2007 12:09 AM
A player is NOT classified as GOOD or BAD with a performance on ONLY 4th innings. Its as silly as evaluating a player with his First ball or last ball. You should also think, If Sachin fails in a good chase, then why does the WHOLE team fail?
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by sanjay Agarwalla on Feb 01, 2007 04:45 PM
yes he is a paper tiger only .at the end of the whats happen thats counts only , he is a cancer for indian cricket now ,give a instance in few years he has did wel in two match continue , lets wait for lanka tie
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by aswika singh on Feb 02, 2007 11:02 AM
mR sanjay the blind person ....see the 1992 , 1996 , and 2003 world cup there he has done great in the entire tournament ...agar aur kuchh yaad nahee aata then see Sharjah ....agar memory loss hain then in this series he hit 60 and 100* not out ...agar ab bhi yaad nahee aata then go to some mental hospital.....
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by Kaustubh Shejwalkar on Feb 01, 2007 05:13 PM
Mr. Veer Singh, before demanding proof/evidence of Sachin's performance in fourth innings while chasing, please give us THREE instances each (out of INNUMERABLE ones) of Steve Waugh, Ponting, Lara and Inzamam, where they have helped their respective teams in chasing the opposition in the fourth innings. My question is straight one.
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by Jarnail singh on Feb 01, 2007 05:00 PM
veer singh ji, you are absolutely right that sachin has not done what was expected from him while chasing a total. but can you tell me in last ten yrs which team has the weak tail order than indians. while you are chasing it counts how strong is the lower order. it gives confidence to the top order. it is not one man game show. it is a team game. i can not forget an inning of sachin at chennai when pakistan team has come to plays test series after a long time. we were chasing a total of about 270 odd runs but top order failed. only sachin keeps the hopes alive. he made a century and got out when only 16 runs were needed. but our 5 batsman could not made 16 runs. then again blame comes to sachin that he has not finished the match. what you people want? he is not god. work. this is not fair to target only sachin. before sachin cricket was not that popular in india. i remeber the matches when sachin got out people shut down their televisions. you must keep one thing in mind that sachins shoulder was injured. so he was quiet hesitant to play pull shots. this is why he was not looking aggressive. after that he was suffering with tennis elbow injury. some how he has recovered. when your body is not fit you are short of confidence. this is what happenned with him. but now after recovering slowly and steadly he is picking his form. inning in vadodra will help him to gain confidence. in last six months i too criticising him, because he was not playing the aggressive game. now when he is looking improved. i think we should give him a chance. without sachin, you can not imagine this team is going to win world cup. so why we should not support him so he can get his confidence back. regards
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by manish garg on Feb 01, 2007 11:16 PM
i think u forgot the tie against pakistan when he scored a century in fourth innings when india was chasing near 200 runs only but the other players were so dum that they could not got through it once he got out. he is god
Hey Sachin, As a true admirer for years & being a Mumbaite, i would first of all like to congratulate u for yr winning effort. But my main concern is that u don't often play in this fashion against teams like Australia,South Africa, New Zealand??? & also u r a big failure in the second innings. U can c the statistics with yr team's Computer Analyst. We want Sachin to perform at any given place in the team & hope to get to the semis & then with the same killer instinct , try to win the World Cup for India. All the BEST!!!
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by pankaj nalgirkar on Feb 01, 2007 04:40 PM
Hi all,
This is what we hear from most of SACHIN'S CRITICS
1.Selfish
2.Scoring Against weaker Oppostions
3.Failing in pressure situation
Let me give u more info about this
1.Selfish
Well Records are meant to be broken and if Sachin is breaking them critics[haters more rightly] can't digest them.. One of the incidents people mention is regarding his 194 knock against pakistan..some said it was slow knock..agreed it was a slow knock by Sachin's stature,but if it is compared wid one of the knock wid Dravid...this will not look as bad it seems.. Tendulkar- 194 runs in multan with a strike rate of around 54 Dravid- 217 runs in oval with a strike rate of around 46
I m just taking one example to tell that Dravid's natural game is to hold the one end and let the others to dominate..in multan Sachin changed his gears and holded one end and he let sehwag to dominate..played Rahul's role in that innings. Now this is called team game.. but people call it slow batting and selfish... Sachin always said Team's win is more important than personal landmark..He proved this statement in that very test by taking Moin Khan's wicket off the last ball of the 3rd day..That Ball was beauty!!Wasn't he happy at that moment??? Since Sachin is the most senior player of the team so he can't throw his wicket just to prove critics that he is still a master blaster...[he is still scoring at brisk rate in onedays]..People forget his fast scroing Centuries against world class bowling
169 [201 balls] against South Africa in 1997 at Capetown 92 [120 balls] against West Indies in 1997 at Bridgetown 155 [191 balls] against Australia in 1998 at Chennai 79 [ 85 balls] against Australia in 1998 at Kolkata 100 in 123 balls against NewZealand in 1999 at Wellington[he scored 113 runs in that inning] 155 [183 balls] against South Africa in 2001 in Bloemfontein
There are many other breath taking innings in tests from 10dulkar.
But everyone please note this down..Sachin is the Only Batsman in Test Cricket who scored 3 Centuries wid a SIX 179 - 6 off Walsh[I remember it was a hook shot] against WestIndies in 1994 at Nagpur 124 - 6 off Min Patel[off spinner,straight down the ground] against England in 1996 at Birmingham 113 - 6 off Wiseman[off spinner,straight down the ground] against Newzealnad in 1999 at Wellington
Critics says he plays for his records and centuries..Now just look to this..
One Day Centuries- 39 [out of 39 centuries India Won 28 times and lost 10 times,1 century in a rain affected match ] 10 centuries gone in Vain.. Half Centuries- 72
now here is that intresting part
out of these 72 centuries Sachin got 28 scores of 80 and above in these 28 scores if we take out the innings in which he was not out [coz of over completed or target chased ] he was 5 times not out in such innings so now lets talk about remaining 23 innings Can u believe he has 10 scores of 90's??? If these 90's were converted in 100's the stats looks likes this Centuries-49 just one short of 50 ODI centuries... and look he missed another record for those who have so much fuss about playing for records.. getting out highest numbers of times in 90's in ODI's ..just coz he wanted to score for the team and not for the his personal records he got out 10times in 90's
Test Centuries- 35 [12 in which India won,15 in dead tests,8 in lost tests ] lone warrior in tests which India lost Half Centuries- 41
Intresting Part 12 scores of 80 6 scores of 90's convert them in 100s..he will pass 40 centuries in Test Cricket..sad for critics he played for team and thats why couldn't converted these 90's into 100's
2.Scoring Against weaker Oppostions 19/07/2006 08:50 This can happen in India only.. People remembers 152 against Namibia and forgets 98 against Pakistan in WorldCup People remembers 248 against Bangladesh and forgets his 7 centuries against World Champions Australia [4 in their own den].. Only one century against Bangladesh and share the honour of scoring test century against each test playing nation wid Dravid,Ponting and Garry Kristen...No one talk about other 3 batsman scored centuries against Bangladesh..then why the fuss for Sachin??
Test Australia - 7 Centuries [4 in Australia], 2 of them at the age of 18 in 1992 Bangladesh- 1 Century [Unfortunately his highest score in Test Cricket] England- 6 Centuries [4 in England], NewZealand- 3 Centuries [1 in NewZealand] Pakistan- 2 Centuries [1 in Pakistan] SouthAfrica- 3 Centuries [ all three in South Africa] Srilanka- 7 Centuries [4 in Srilanka] WestIndies- 3 Centuries [ 1 in WestIndies] Zimbabwe- 3 Centuries [ none in Zimbabwe]
90 96 against Srilanka at Banglore in 1994 92 against West Indies at Bridgetown in 1997 97 against South Africa at Mumbai in 2000 90 against England at Banglore in 2001 92 against England at Nottingham in 2002 94 against Pakistan at Mohali in 2005
Intresting Part He scored runs in all parts of world..There are three types of wickets u generally found in Cricket..Fast and bouncy Pitches like in Australia,South-Africa,NewZealand,WestIndies,Spin tracks in India,Srilanka,Pakistan,and seeming tracks like in England. Today people talk about Ricky Ponting...now check this out
contd 19/07/2006 08:51 Sachin's and Ponting's average at their own home soil is above 55 so nothing to discuss this here,but the real part starts now Sachin's average in Australia 54.15 , 4 centuries Ponting's average in India,12.28 , no centuries
Sachin's average in England 71.60 , 4 centuries Ponting's average in England 42.63 , 3 centuries
I am taking records for these countries only bcoz.. rightnow,best fast bowlers are from Australia,best spinners are from India,Best Seamers from england[as there is no choice bcoz only england have such pitches] Anyone can take easily tell who played gud cricket against best attack on all kind of pitches...
One Day Australia - 7 Centuries 1 score of 90's Bangladesh- 0 Century England- 1 Centuries 1 score of 90's Kenya- 4 Centuries Namibia- 1 Century NewZealand 4 Centuries Pakistan- 5 Centuries 4 scores of 90's SouthAfrica- 3 Centuries 1 score of 90's Srilanka- 7 Centuries 3 score of 90's WestIndies- 2 Centuries Zimbabwe- 5 Centuries
90 90 against Australia in 1996 at Mumbai 91 against England in 1997 at Sharjah 95 against Pakistan in 1998 at Dhaka 93 against Pakistan in 2000 at Hobart 93 against SouthAfrica in 2000 at Nagpur 93 against Srilanka in 2000 at Dhaka 98 against Pakistan in 2003 at Centurion 97 against Srilanka in 2003 at Johannesburg 93 against Srilanka in 2005 at Nagpur 95 against Pakistan in 2006 at Lahore
Intresting Part Only 5 Centuries against minnows like Kenya ,Namibia[non test playing nation]...and Kenya was the semi-finalist of the world cup'03 10 scores of above 90 against only test playing nations...now can anyone tell me how is he selfish?? 34 times he scored more than 80 and couldn't reached 100..If he played for his records..he could easily scored 100's all of those scores above 80's ...
3.Failing in pressure situation 19/07/2006 08:51 ODI
Won Chasing Target
M R H AVG 100s 50s Sachin- 101 4397 134 58.62 13 23 Dravid- 72 2124 109* 49.39 2 19 Ponting- 77 2670 124* 53.40 4 17
In Series Won Sachin- 127 5548 186* 51.37 19 26 Dravid- 76 2645 153 42.66 2 22 Ponting- 177 7245 145 47.98 18 45
In Test 100's in Tests India Won - 12 100's in Tests India Lost - 8 100's in Test Drawn - 15
Holds the record of maxium number of 100's for loosing team...That means a lone warrior..Thats why once Indian Cricket Team was called as ONE MAN ARMY!!!!
More Intresting Part!!!!!!!! Often said Sachin gets fail at crunch situation...Well 1st we must admit that when Sachin on the crease Win is sure...As soon Sachin gets out..the situation becomes crunchy!!! Sachin is out,now who will win match for us?? Dravid ?? or Sehwag?? or Yuvraj?? Or Ganguly?? No one sure who will win match for them... So bcoz of this thing Teams targets Sachin as the most precious wicket... Nasser Hussain introduced Negative lines for Sachin Tendulkar to stop the flow of runs when he is on wicket!!! Local umpires also involved some times to help their team against Sachin Tendulkar,espeically Australians! Some incidents striking in my mind...I think Sachin is the player who got out maximum numbers of times bcoz of bad or wrong decision by Umpires..I m producing those incidents only which I remember,there may be many other too
1. 92 - out of a NO ball from Frankline Rose against West Indies in 1997 at Bridgetown..Remember India lost the test just by 38 runs..U can just imagine how much that bad decision effected the result of the match!!!
2. 83 - Out of a NO ball again..[don't remember the bowler] last test in WestIndies in 1997.Draw Test.
3. 67- LBW off Crains..last test against NewZealand in 1999, was not out coz the ball pitched outside the legstump.Match Drawn
4. 61 - caught at forward shortleg,bowler Shane Warne.against Australia at Adelaide in 1999.. the ball touched the thigh pads and Umpire Darel Harper gave him out.. India were 107 for 4 when Ganguly joined Sachin and they put on 108 runs for the 5th wicket..
5. 0 - LBW bowler Macgrath..against Australia at Adelaide in 1999,same test, nothing more to say..Everyone remember that FOOLISH decision
6. 52 - LBW bowler Shane Warne,Umpire David Shepherd,against Australia at Melbourne in 1999, were chasing 356 as a target on the fourth day.
7. 45 - LBW bowler Macgrath,UmpireIan Robinson,against Australia at Sydney in 2000, the ball seemed to hit him too high and was going on leg stump, In that very over,Tendulkar had pulled a short one from Macgrath for two,and hooked the next two for boundaries,and a ball later punched the fast bowler back past him for the 3rd four of the over
8. 16 - caught behind off Waqar Younis,against Pakistan at Perth in 2000, it was must win situation for India to qualify in the final , scored 16 runs of 9 balls,hitted 3 fours in one over of Waqar Younis and 1 off Wasim Akram on the fastest pitch of the world,India were chasing 260 odd runs...
9. 0 - LBW bowler Gillespie,Umpire Bucknor,against Australia at Brisbane in 2003 funny thing is that the bowler not applead for the LBW... MR.Bucknor gave the decision of his own
10. 0 - caught behind off Lee,against Australia at Melbourne in 2003,ball touched the thigh pads and umpire given him out.
11. 54 - caught behind,Umpire Bucknor,against Pakistan at Kolkata in 2005, I think we all seen that decison, theball was not near to his pad,gloves,helmet,arm.. no where...
There may be so many other incident like this...Teams like Australia taking help from the umpires to stop Tendulkar... the 1999-2000 tour of Australia proves it..
THIS IS THE ANSWER TO ALL WHO HATE SACHIN TENDULKAR
And the last thing is that Sachin played 11 years [1989-2000] in the era where his own team mates involved in match fixing.. So despite of his brilliant knocks we failed to win the match just bcoz others not contirbuting..Yuo can win ODI's just wid ur own batting but u can't win test matches wid one innings bcoz test played for 5 days its a 4 inning game..Still Tendulkar's record in that era is Awesome.. and remember The awe of opponents was as great as that of crowds. But the finest compliment must be that bookmakers would not fix the odds - or a game - until Tendulkar was out.
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by Kaushik Basu on Feb 02, 2007 01:15 AM
I just want to add one thing for the critics. We always loose (For the matches we lost. Others never play good enough to win) and others loose (for the matches we won. We never play good enough to win). So we are always in a situation where we either find faults on why we lost or we never give credit to people who win games for us.
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by gaurav shah on Feb 02, 2007 12:07 AM
jesus christ man that must have taken some work if that didnt shut the critics up nothing ever will and t wud be useless to waste ur energy on them great work take it easy
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by Prashanth Guha on Feb 01, 2007 11:47 PM
GREAT WORK! I really agree with it.. To hell with those who hate Sachin. Those who hate Sachin or dont like his game actually dont understand what CRICKET is all about
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by Amit Sharma on Feb 01, 2007 04:52 PM
Great work Buddy!! Now that was some information regarding Sachin. I would request all the foul talkers to first get the records right before saying something on a public forum. Thanks Pankaj...your information is really amazing.
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by Anuj Nair on Feb 15, 2007 08:06 PM
Hi Pankaj. I have read a lot of stats and a lot of analysis. They all come from people who are paid to do it. But it seems you are really a die hard fan of Sachin and thats the reason you have gone this far to shut the critics up. I and maybe a lot of sachin fans take a bow and applaude. Kudos to you mate !!!
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by Nirmal on Feb 01, 2007 10:15 PM
Great work dude.. I am plannin to show this to some of my frnds who tell Ponting is better than Sachin... Way to go dude...
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by savita on Feb 02, 2007 12:45 PM
Boss, really great job. I have copied it and please give me the copyright to paste it on any blog/site with Sachin opponents...
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by vinod babu on Feb 02, 2007 02:02 PM
arguably the best analysis i have seen so far.. Hats off pankaj.. It's like pluffing sachin critics mouth with a bun.. Hard to swallow and digest
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by anand pandey on Feb 01, 2007 05:07 PM
u dhave done a very good analysis... i am completely agree with u.. i think u should publish this in any newspaper....this may give a great support to all time great hero.....
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by yuvaraj on Feb 02, 2007 03:06 PM
Hi All,
I am posting message for the first time Bcoz I could not stop myself for appreciating Pankaj's work. Really this will work as Shivaji's SWORD for Sachin's opponents.
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by naga BONAGIRI on Feb 01, 2007 10:46 PM
Oh man! great work done buddy. I really apprecite your effort. Sachin opponents should read it abd shd know what reality is!!
RE:RE:Congrats!!!
by Chilla Mat on Feb 01, 2007 09:34 PM
great work buddy... Jeet ne ke baad yeh chillahat hai haar jaate to na jaane kya hota..?? Khush na ho ne ki beemari hai inko socho Sachin na hota to kyaa hota..?
RE:RE:Congrats!!!
by gaurav behl on Feb 02, 2007 07:42 AM
well I think this should be shown on all TV channels as breaking news and all his critics should shut their mouth for ever..Great Analysis Pankaj.. Hope Tendulkar plays marvellously in West Indians and bring us the World Cup so that all his critics go to sleep for years to come
Sachin has done it again.No wonder he is called the "Little Master".Truly a legend & inspiration to the youngsters.He should open the innings in 1 day matches.
gr8 players live forever....and so does sachin.....he has always been a marvel to watch.....we never doubted his talent....and those who do.......go back home.....do ur homework well!! and come out with some kinnda big critcism....cos' no matter what big the criticism is.....he will come out bigger.....long live sachin
Well played sachin...!!!!! After a long time he showed a good temprament & played attacking strokes.Just need to maintain the consistency to bring the world cup home..Cheers!!!
I am apprecieting for feeling of all indians. Sachin did the good job, so all have been in favor of Sachin. Just would like to ask, whey Sachin is not doing well , when team need his knowck. This happened , because Opener did a good job, and given him a good start. All innings of Sachin, if you will keep in mind, he never did good when we need him really. If he did not do, that time, there was other players for doing the same(Yuvi/Dhoni/Pathan....). Why Ricky ponting is doing well in every match? Lara is also playing good in pressure. Why Sachin is not doing well in do & die match? That is the question marks, so Really Sachin should be out from team , if he is not doing good in 2-3 matches. In that case, he should be out for rest atleast for one match.
RE:Regarding Sachin
by rahul gautam on Feb 01, 2007 04:12 PM
Anil u r right. from past 4-5 yrs sachin is not showing consistency. He is selfish player he playes for himself. otherwise he would have hit the last ball for 4 or 6 instead of a single. That shows he was more keen in his 100 insread of team score.
RE:RE:Regarding Sachin
by vikas sreedharan on Feb 01, 2007 04:18 PM
beta rahul...if he could hit a low down full toss to his far leg side to six(!!!!) he would have scored 444 runs (74x6)in that innings for the team...an then u would call him a tam player from the bottom of your heart....hat off to you son....can you over a six ball over at the age of 30 ????? bachon ki khel nahin international cricket....age does matter here....while one grows older his physical capabilities will come down....
RE:RE:Regarding Sachin
by Vishal Jadhav on Feb 01, 2007 04:21 PM
Well, whats wrong if he plays for himself???...seems like the others DO NOT EVEN play for themselves!!!!...7 wickets for 36 runs???!!!!...thats a laugh!!!
RE:Regarding Sachin
by mihir rajda on Feb 01, 2007 04:50 PM
i hope u r nt an alien to cricket..haha..i feel so wen u say such things about sachin..v all r habbituated 2 his match winning knocks he played wen he was nt evn 25..buddy do knw d max run scorer in last wrld cup..better find it out..dis will surprise u as it is our own sachin..wat is mr precious den a do or die match in wrld cup? n to all ppl who think like u pls do nt compare sachin wid ricky or lara..do u mean to say dat its india n so he is getting chances to play?? bet u man evn a team like australia will wnt him in their 11..d problem is nt sachin, its d rest of d team who can nt set standards like australia..dnt dare 2 4gt his innings at sharjah wer he single handedly qualified india 2 finals n v won against australia..n der r many more knocks yaar..u nd 2 check ur history abt him bef u draw ne statements..
RE:Regarding Sachin
by naushad ahmed on Feb 01, 2007 04:28 PM
Ya sachin can play well only if the players above him plays well, and only if he is sure that the players below in the list are also good ones like, (Yuvi/Dhoni/Pathan....).. What's the use if not play well in bad times.. Good team effort indeed.. he's the best when team doing well otherwise vice-versa, with team. Also I would like to add his records in ODI, 41 - 100s (Best) and i think 17 - 0s(Worst).
RE:RE:Regarding Sachin
by Ankit on Feb 02, 2007 12:05 AM
Naushad, please check the stats book and find out who has the maximum 0's for West Indies. And when you do, please don't go crying to "mama" coz some stranger in a blog just whipped you.....literally!!
RE:Regarding Sachin
by chetan sarda on Feb 01, 2007 03:21 PM
IT SEEMS THAT THE WRITER HAVE SOME ALERGY WITH SACHIN. WHAT YUVI, DHONI DID IN THE THIRD ODI EVEN WHEN WE HAD GOT GOOD START AND SOLID RUN RATE TILL 40 OVERS? DO NOT COMPAIR PONTING WITH SACHIN. THERE ARE MANY OTHER PLAYERS IN AUSTRALIA WHO TAKES PRESSURE OFF PONTING BUT THERE IS ONLY SACHIN AND OTHER INDIAN PLAYERS ARE NOT AS GOOD AS AUSTRALIANS. MY DEAR FRIEND, LARA WAS ALSO OUT OF FORM FOR A LONGER PERIOD IN PAST. LOOK AT RECORDS AND YOU WILL FIND THAT IT WAS SACHIN BECAUSE OF WHOM WE AT LEAST REACH FINALS OF LAST WORLD CUP BEFORE WHICH WE INDIANS WERE SO FRUSTED BY THE PERFORMANCE OF TEAM INDIA THAT WE ATTACHED HOUSE OF KAIF, BURNT POSTERS OF PLAYERS. IT WAS SACHIN'S KNOCKS WHICH SET MOMENTUM FOR US IN LAST WORLD CUP TO REACH FINAL.
RE:Regarding Sachin
by Milind Padelkar on Feb 01, 2007 03:31 PM
Hey Anil some thought, do you know what happened after rahul and sachin got out in the 3rd odi? Indian team collapsed lost last 7 wkts for 36 runs.
When sachin does bad you criticize him (agreed) when he does good you dont appreciate (ok) but criticize him (dont agree). Some advice for people like you.
"some people COMPLAIN they don%u2019t have enough TIME to be happy, yet they find enough time to be sad? Not really. You see, their deplorable plight has nothing to do with having sufficient or insufficient time. It has everything to do with complaining. After all, complaining is the negation of happiness. It%u2019s impossible to complain and be happy at the same time.
So, beware of that insidious disease known as %u2018negativitis%u2019 (negative thinking). It is as pervasive as the common cold, but far more damaging. It mutilates, cripples, and corrodes the human spirit."
RE:Regarding Sachin
by vikas sreedharan on Feb 01, 2007 03:21 PM
??..... how can you forget how indian cricket was about 7-8 yrs ago when sachin on numerous occations held one end up while the other players were making proecessions to the dressing room. Those days when India reached totals of 150 sachin would have scored his century. Why you people are crying for Pathan/yuvi/raina/Dhoni and alll...how could you compare someone like sachin with them??? The fact is you expect century from sachin in every match. Sachin has impressed you so much that ur expectation level has come to the extreme.Co'on yar....realize the facts....41 centuries......and ponting/lara...delivering in every match???ru kidding? lara himself went away from cricket and told media that he had enough at one point of time?????open your eyes and ur heart wide open...for yourself.....world knows how good sachin is....he doesnt require any reassurance..his figures talks about the genious in him......god bless you
RE:RE:Regarding Sachin
by savita on Feb 02, 2007 12:54 PM
This is exactly like hrithik bashing that the press had indulged in when his movies flopped when in most of them he did not even have the main role...It is just that we expect too much from Sachin and others can just go home and collect theri fat pay cheques. the only person who used to really try hard to win matches esp after schin used to get out in ODIs was Robin Singh. Can you recall any other batsman who has won mtaches for India on multiple occasions when Tendulkar got out? Yuvi and Kaif on a couple of occasions. Also, let us not forget that Australia had one player with an exceptional record of consistency with an average of over 50- I forget his name, he was actaully responsible for most australian wins, not Ponting, not anyone. In fact he is not in the team since last one year or so...
RE:Regarding Sachin
by savita on Feb 02, 2007 12:58 PM
I think you just write something before reading others views at the top. Go and read pankaj's big reply to an email above in which he has given such statistical analysis that you simply cant argue,but yes you can still decide to go on whining like a street dog
RE:Regarding Sachin
by sahil Saify on Feb 01, 2007 04:18 PM
Sir Kindly visit..cricinfo.com and check the contribution of Sachin in the matches India has won....u will then "MAY" realise truth... since there's no cure for Critics....
RE:Regarding Sachin
by anand pandey on Feb 01, 2007 05:11 PM
my dear u r doing mistake.... if u go through data analysis.. then only u can find who is playing good.... sachin's record is better than any other batsman...even in do or die matches
RE:Regarding Sachin
by AVS INDIA on Feb 01, 2007 04:02 PM
Mr Anil Singh .... bcos like us he is also a human being not a machine to give you 100 % result everytime ..hope you understand now .
RE:Regarding Sachin
by Akshay Vohra on Feb 01, 2007 04:05 PM
I would request the writer to go and have a look at the master's records and see for imself when he has not performed under pressure. Some examples I cn give are the entire calendar years 1997 and 1999, where only one man 'played' for India. Please see the records before passing judgements. And do remember that he has batted long enough to know when to play and when to stop. Dont try to teach him.
Genius is born now and again i.e. Sachin Tendulkar. He is the run making machine but some time his batting line up is totally quiet. May be he is in dubious mind that which type of batting should be applied. Due to dubious mind he don't understand which batting style is suitable for him.
After all Sachin is Sachin and he always paly like a attacking batsmen and should be play like a attacking batsmen it is good for him as well as country also.
We love and Salute him AND PRAY FOR HIS BATTING THAT MAY BE FLOURISH LIKE ME BECUASE I AM ALSO LIKE A HOLY GANGA RIVER.
My best regards to Saching Tendulkar. I like him very much after Kapil Dev.
Sachin MOM. bah a great deal!! In this type of Batting pitches !! what happen to Sachin in South Africa. How many MOM did he get in South Africa. The greatness is bestowed upon such players who can scored consistently in any kind of pitches that also under pressure. A fine example is Michael Beevan, Kevin Petterson. They may not receive as many MOM as Sachin does but they do fight till the end. Look at kevin petterson playing for England. Most of the time he alone scores all the runs and he doesnotget rattled by wickets falling round him. As for Beevan everybody knows how he plays. I dont even remember the number of times he won matches for australia but he does not have the number of MOM that Sachin has. What does this tell. If Sachin had to come when India were 10/2 or something like that then you can expect his wicket within 30. Previously he was a one man army that I agreed maybe better than Petterson. But not anymore. NOw since he scored a century and we can now forget another such innings for a long time maybe until next year. He has now become such a player who once scored a hundred in batting pitches once a while and is also hailed as worlds best batsman by such idiotic fans. What a shame.
RE:Sachin MOM. !!
by antony on Feb 01, 2007 03:04 PM
Sachin is not only performing in batting pitches,just see his records he scored 50's & 100's against all the countries and all over the cricket grounds. yesterday match knock itself shows how well he is. If you don't like him plaese shut your mouth and be silent.He is the top of the best batsman which india produced. HAts off to little master.
RE:Sachin MOM. !!
by swapnil chatur on Feb 01, 2007 04:40 PM
It's true that guys like you will never appreciate Sachin. If you want to check how many 50s he scored on SA check out last world cup statastics. Come on yaar he is human being cant score hundred in each an every match and Sachin had palyed many innings because of which we have one the match so dont tell that Sachin never palys when it needed most.
RE:RE:Sachin MOM. !!
by savita on Feb 02, 2007 01:11 PM
When needed most, or trouble is only when he gets out. So obviously he cant score when he himself has got out right? till he is there there is trouble only for the opposition and Haters like you!
RE:Sachin MOM. !!
by mihir rajda on Feb 01, 2007 05:02 PM
you r like a bad fish in d pond..bt v will nt alow ur dirt in d pond..u better shut ur mouth, sit home n cheer other teams n dnt dare to celeberate evn if v win d wrld cup..sit home cry 4 other countries who hvnt won..or cry dat u did nt support india.."Gaddar"....ask a mom whose child is parralised..evn her 1st luv will b her own child n nt d neighbours whu is ohysically well 2 do..u dnt evnm feel lucky dat u have sm1 like sachin in ur team...
RE:Sachin MOM. !!
by sahil Saify on Feb 01, 2007 04:21 PM
wait ...time will proove...that whn sachin gonna hit next ton!!! don't worry just count the days...
RE:Sachin MOM. !!
by santosh singh on Feb 01, 2007 04:55 PM
who knows that whether after 17 yr Kevin Peterson will keep performing in the same manner. may be his career finishes within 5-6 yrs.
don't start comparing if u don't have data to back. u neither are aware abt sachin stats nor any body else and even then start comparing him.
RE:Sachin MOM. !!
by savita on Feb 02, 2007 01:09 PM
To all,please read pankaj's detailed stats in reply to I think some anil.That will sielnce you once and for all. In the third match Scahin hit a sixty and it was a batting pitch, right? Since the West Indies won comfortably chasing. The what happened to other btasman after him? Why cant anyone else bat on this easy pitch?
Congratulation........ I really admired with your play & always enjoying when U were in ground...... hope it wl going on..... I hope you become a best player of coming World Cup... best wishes. Sanjay B. ............Noida
