hello sir , instead of commenting on india's future bowlers u need to consider seriously about aussies bowlers.with mc grath, lee,gillespe in 30's& williams &bracken not in same league of above trio. i think u should now think about aussies pale attack for retaining world no.1 spot.
RE:hello mr border
by Joy on Jan 14, 2004 12:08 PM
Dear Ashish, Please do not compare apples and cauliflowers. we are talking abt cricket and what many of us think that sachin is a great / god gifted talented player but he is not match winner. B'coz when u are set and score century and if the country looses how does it matter?
RE:sachin
by bala on Jan 12, 2004 11:27 PM
i agree with you Sesh.
Guys, what Sesh said was that Sachin is not a match winner...which is true. Sesh was not commenting on Sachin's ability as a batsman. Common, there is no point in getting emotional about that statement. Certainly Sachin is not a match winner. Also, Sesh made a challange saying ''you are welcome to counter me with info on his batting performances when India won and he stayed till the end to ensure our victory''.
So, try to win him with true statistics and not with emotional statements/judgements.
Daer Mr Border,Ganguly had done everything to force a vitory and the bowlers did their best! But he did not take into account the foul play of the umpires in the middle! Please watch again the proccedings of the last day on video or any other play back mechanism and you will see why India lost! How many valid lbw appeals by Indian bowlers were turned down against aussie bats?? It is not enough to have neutral umpires, but ICC must have neutral, unbiased,competent umpires to offciate the matches.There is need to have another mechanism to adjudge lbw appeals.Umpires must be told to refer all doubtful or close lbw appeals to the third umpire or hawk eye andif they do mistakes, umpires must be suitably penalised for doing a bad job! The use of technology must be used to keep the standard of the game high and not to spoil the name of the game!Is any one listening?
Mr Border says that Ganguly did not have confidence in his strong batting line up and hence he did not enforce the follow on. He says unless you are prepared to lose you cannot win. My question is why then did Steve Waught declare at 400 runs in the first innings at Brisbane when he, the australian media, commentators and players like Brett Lee and Hayden all talked about chin music and incomptence of Lakshman and Dravid and the pressure on Tendulkar etc. Is it the fear that their bowling cannot deliver what they profess in public? First Australians must do soul searching before pointing fingers as they were first one to be on the defensive by scoring more than 550 runs in the Brisbane Test and for that matter in the Adelaide Test. I hope these comments will be communicated to MR Border. best of regards
for all the hype and eulogy surrounding Tendulkar, he is yet to become a matchwinner. He plays well, but gets out before the match swings India's way. In crisis, he either fails to deliver or delivers but leaves the job unfinished. Laxman, Dravid have proved themselves in crisis - thats the test of fire. As Jordan puts it, "its not how well you played along the way, its having something in you to finish" that makes someone a great player. Statistically, tendulkar or gavaskar are greats but the true marks of greatness were displayed by kapil, laxman, vengsarkar, dravid. Lets eulogize the real heros and give time to tendulkar to prove himself. yeah, as Border says, beware of sachin but when the result doesn't count but individual score counts.
and, you sachin fans ... you can welcome to counter me with info on his batting performances when India won and he stayed till the end to ensure our victory. World cup Pak match was more of a victory because of Dravid, Yuvraj and Kaif's performances than Sachin's. Sachin left way too early before we saw victory. This final test, if not for his slow batting, we might have actually seen a result.
RE:yeah, beware when the result doesn't count
by Vijay on Jan 13, 2004 03:08 PM
u r one of those guy's who can't appreciate a good innings of sachin. True he is not a real matchwinner.But i can tell u that he is far more talented that Dravid,Laxman.....His innings wasn't really slow.Infact many of Dravid's and Laxman's innings were slower.Regarding the world cup match against Pakistan India Would'nt have won if he hadn't scored runs at such a brisk pace.It was becoz of him that India did reach the finals.how many batsmen in world cricket has the same range of shorts that Sachin has.So pls don't unneccesarily criticise a gr8 player.It is not Sachin's job alone to win a match for India .There a 10 others also.If u have any opinins let me know at vijay_aims@rediffmail.com
RE:yeah, beware when the result doesn't count
by ganesh on Jan 11, 2004 08:38 AM
what do you mean by match winner? one who plays begining to end.....? poor statement from you sesh....you just imagine indian team without that kohinoor....you can't! common man.... we are indian....how can we blame world's best? why are you getting doubt about Sachin's greatness? even world's another great batsman Don Brad also verymuch tempted to watch Sachin's playing.... he's the rolemodel for younger cricketer.leave all these.... you just ask Ganguly and Dravid, how much importance they are giving to Sachin.....
RE:yeah, beware when the result doesn't count
by mohan srinivas on Jan 12, 2004 02:19 AM
sesh, sachin was watching from the non-striker's end in south africa in the first test of our last series on the first day as india collapsed to 68 for 4 on a super-fast wicket in johannesberg. from playing his usual style of test cricket, he recognized the need to drastically change gears and counter-attack as only he can, and protect and support the debutant virender sehwag. the result was a dazzling display of fireworks by sachin before lunch and by both batsmen after lunch with both sachin and sehwag making hundreds and india going to a pretty safe 300+ at the end of the day. to me, that innings from sachin against an incredibly strong fast bowling attack on a super-fast pitch made him the best batsman india EVER had. since then, rahul dravid has equalled him with his grit and determination, but not on that tour or BEFORE. guess what? india still lost the test by a gaping margin. the reason was not sachin as some may surmise. the reason was supremely incompetent bowling by nehra and others (agarkar or zaheer or both) on a super-fast pitch which gifted SA the victory by allowing them to take a huge first innings lead and to then bundle us out in the second inning.
RE:yeah, beware when the result doesn't count
by Ganesh on Jan 08, 2004 11:55 PM
READ THIS CLEARLY..
Sachin scored 241 in 436 balls whereas Dravid scored 233 in 443 balls. You decide who was slower. If we won in Adelaide, it was not entirely due to Dravid. We won because Agarkar took 4 wickets in 19 balls. Seems like you don't really know cricket. Otherwise, you would never expect a batsman to win test matches. To win test matches, you need to take 20 wickets. We did that in Adelaide - Not in Sydney. If you look at the distribution of wickets in Adelaide, Kumble took 6, Tendulkar took 2, Agarkar took 8, Pathan took 1 and Nehra took 3. In Sydney, of the 16 wickets that fell, Kumble took 12, Pathan took 3 and Kartik took 1. I will leave it you to figure out how lopsided the distribution was in Sydney. So stop blaming Tendulkar for drawn/lost test matches. Batsmen do not win test matches - bowlers do. Looks like you are one of those who get taken in by the likes of other fools. I pray that you may see light.
RE:yeah, beware when the result doesn't count
by ram on Jan 12, 2004 06:59 AM
hi sesh, congratualtions!! so i guess you are happy that your heat throb, ganguly outscored sachin in teh first one dayer, but did not have the sense to not run for a suicidal single; also first ask him to learn the basics of running and grounding the bat, then he can even dream of being compared to sachin.. and for the recent statistic of being the fastest to reach 9000 runs, he never had to play in pressure situations lilke sachin did; and early on in his career, due to ganugly's selfish and slow batting, sachin had to take extra burden; so much for statistics.. without sachin india would be as much a team as kenya or zimbabwe :)) have fun!! ram
RE:yeah, beware when the result doesn't count
by Neel on Jan 11, 2004 11:34 PM
Mere yarae Sesh Babu
Sachin: The God of Cricket, having the maximum records Under his belt and carrying billion people of hopes on his shoulders I must remember one thing good that talking about cricket without knowing any thing about cricket game. By not knowing the A B Cs in cricket they are also talking about cricket its very funny & its very shameful by giving those statements.If you give this kind of statement you be an young Kid,or you might be immature,this will be an immature statements. By failing one or two test, the master will Be master after all he is also a one among the player; we should not expect a Century from each game. I once again reminding to KID that not to compare Sachin(god of cricket)with all. i want to remind one thing one who supports sesh statement that FORM IS TEMPORARY............ AND CLASS IS PERMANEMT SACHIN IS A CLASS PLAYER and he wil be an CLASS EVER and EVER.
RE:yeah, beware when the result doesn't count
by Samarth on Jan 08, 2004 10:14 PM
I agree that Sachin Tendulkar has failed in some important matches. But don't forget his two back to back centuries in Sharjah against Australia which won India the cup (in 1998 or 99). Also India would not have entered the world cup finals without his contributions. I'm sure most peoople would agree with me on that. We lost the world cup final because of bad bowling. It is important to remember that Sachin Tendulkar has played most of his cricket when the Indian team has been mediocre. So dont blame him too much. Statistic: India has won 28/36 ODI matches in which Sachin scored a century.
RE:yeah, beware when the result doesn't count
by atik karedia on Jan 09, 2004 07:26 PM
Dear Sesh,
Great opinion from you about so called little master Mr. Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar.
Quote ===== as Border says, beware of sachin but when the result doesn't count but individual score counts.
Unquote ======= My salutes to you Sesh, you have a great sense of cricket. I am totally agree with you. Wish you all the best and let us pray together as may god give good sense of cricket to all Indian Cricket fans.
RE:yeah, beware when the result doesn't count
by Ashok on Jan 11, 2004 02:21 PM
It is true that sachin is not a match winner. He may have contributed to the many of Indian Victories . He had never carried his bat through the innings when needed. In the Pakistan test match (Asia test chanpionship) what happened ? he got out when India has almost won as the result India lost. If he had batted through the Innings saw India through then we can call him a match winner. There were many crucial matches in which If sachin had continued his good work he would have won the match for India.
Likes of Vian Richards , Brain Lara and our own Kapil Dev can be classifed as match winners. Sachin will not be in the list but I agree he has that potential but he has to prove it.
There is no dispute that sachin has contributed to many of Indian victories but not to the extend to be called as a match winner .
RE:yeah, beware when the result doesn't count
by nitya on Jan 10, 2004 11:56 AM
i really wonder how jus............Indian fans suffer from selectinve amnesia with regard to Sachin's contribution to cricket.....................
And u seem to suffer the worst.............Had it not been Sachin Tendulkar INDIA would have not even entered super six.......................... All u fans of Sourav ,Dravid etc,...............who were stupidly throwing stones against the home of ur icons were controlled only because sachin had the guts to come and promise u all for a better performance from the team that toooo when he was not a captain or a vice captain.................
A match winner is not the one who comes and bats for 50 overs ,he is one who gives his team all chances of winning......................If it had not been for Master's sensible batting Aussies would have crushed INDIA in the final test.................
Be happy that u people allowed to have ur head held high............... and stop writing such things about our own KOHINOOR.........................
