this article is written with malicious intnetion, cannot comapre with european where politics is noyt based on caste, religion, corruption. here situation are different. every pary is free to decide when to choose their PM. we have enough time. election has not been declared. election can be had in the leadership of party presidents. wait it is prerogative of party when to choose their PM candidate.
Re: RUBBISH ARTICLE
by V SR on Feb 08, 2013 07:31 AM
It is rubbish. Shenoy writes as if the election has been announced yesterday. Did congress announce any candidate for PM?
It is good to know that unlike last parliamentary election Ayodhya Temple is back at forefront. This augurs well for the cultural destiny of the nation.
The man behind the Ayodhya movement was also instrumental in opening relationship with Israel. Today Israel has a critical bearing on Indian security, and it is this relationship which made room for proximity with US and EU nations. The leaders in these nations are certainly likely to accord his leadership due weight and a welcoming acceptance.
Pakistan and Iran would also be comforted to see an erudite leader steering India. RSS may be still upset at his Jinnah is secular stance, but making RSS irrelevant in politics is certainly good for India and also to RSS itself which claims to be a cultural organization anyway.
LKA has groomed the second rung of leaders in BJP. If they do not have the samskaar of respecting elders and abide by his lead, they are not Bharatiya enough. LKA alone can deliver the upgradability to Bharatiyata which ABV, his close friend and confidante aspired for. The economic and development policies the second rung leaders dream about can be implemented unhindered and in full speed under his leadership. India would be safe, secure and be able to become a full-fledged legal market economy to deliver growth and eliminate poverty under his practical and wise leadership.
- raul gandhi's party - lallu's party - sharad pawar's party - raj thackrey's party - jay lalita's party - karunanidhi's party - naveen patanaik's party - mamta banerjee's party - mulalyam's party - mayavati's party - nitish kumar's party - uddhav's party - jagan's party - naidu's party
Re: the following parties have not announced their pm
by shilpy on Feb 08, 2013 07:08 AM
it is safe to say you will get no credit for guessing the pm candidate of all the above political parties owned by different families. the bjp is the one and only one part that behaves differently - democratically, wouldn't you say? now, if bjp really believes in democracy, then it must project narendra modi who clearly is hte choice of the people - the neilsen poll say 49pct of people want him to be the pm, a feat even nehru could not have claimed.
Re: Re: Re: the following parties have not announced their pm
by Solnishka on Feb 08, 2013 08:15 AM
as long as we have traitors out numbering the patriots of India.
Re: Re: Re: Re: the following parties have not announced their pm
by Hari Narasimhan on Feb 08, 2013 09:10 AM
It could also be the other way.You cannot say that those who oppose Modi are traitors.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: the following parties have not announced thei
by Hari Narasimhan on Feb 08, 2013 02:15 PM
@Indian Infidel
Please be calm and do not get worked up.Your questions are valid but the way you called my statements inane is wrong.
You did not get my point here. When you are saying that Modi or anyone else is worthy enough to be PM your comparison has to be with PMs who were worthy, like Vajpayee, Narasimha Rao or Lal Bahadur Shastri and not duds like Deve Gowda or even Rahul Gandhi over whom congress is head over heels.Now let me answer you one by one.
1. So are you saying that all the PM's till now as well as the Current PM got that based on merit?
>> Not exactly. But there were PMs who had the merit Vajpayee, Narasimha Rao or Lal Bahadur Shastri
2. KHANgress ruled the nation more than 50 years and other than promoting DynasticHagemony have they done any goodFor the nation?
>> I agree with you on the dynastic hegemony part. But it is also true that the congress was a fairly good outfit till Indira Gandhi took over.Even Nehru with all his failed policies was good on the development part.
3. Are you saying HD DevaGowda was a worthy PM candidate?
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by Hari Narasimhan on Feb 08, 2013 03:06 PM
@Indian Infidel What are you looking for in a PM candidate? (realistic and bare minimum)
1. Personal probity 2. Level headedness and inclusive, but firm. 3. Should command respect of both allies and political opponents. 4. Should be able to take evryone along. 5. A person who can handle India's diversity. 6. Someone with a happy blend of nationalism and internationalism
Who is ur PM candidate from the current lot?
Vajpayee was the last leader who had all these qualities. There is no ideal candidate. Among the current lot I would say Nitish Kumar is a good candidate.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: the following parties have not announced thei
by Me Communal on Feb 08, 2013 09:20 AM
they are traitors. because for them it is their selfish motive or naivette. no one is thinking out of the box. on NM has proven he can develop and also include minrities in the development processs instead if doing lip service. so STFUP.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: the following parties have not announced thei
by Hari Narasimhan on Feb 08, 2013 09:35 AM
@Me Communal. Typical abusive response of a Modi supporter.Resort to abuse when someone does not agree with your view.
What exactly has he proven to be made PM? Yes, i agree that he has improved the condition of roads in Gujarat and has implemented solar energy.But he still has a long way to go to be made PM.He has not proven anything at the national level.Let us face it.
I was an ex-member of the RSS. While I appreciate some of their aspects, I dislike them intensely for one reason, their sanctimonious attitude on patriotism.
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by INDIAN INFIDEL on Feb 08, 2013 10:34 AM
Hari your attitude reflects of a Typical indian citizen who is behaving after getting brainwashed by watching too much of secularMedia be it NDTV or be itOutlook.You have reached a level in which u can be considered nothing more than a SecularZombie whose only aim is to enforce their btrand ofSICKularism over the nation.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: the following parties have not announced thei
by Hari Narasimhan on Feb 08, 2013 10:47 AM
@Indian Infidel
Sorry to disappoint you. I am a free thinking citizen of India and not a fool to be brainwashed by whatever NDTV says. I have enough maturity to think on my own. I am not enamoured either by people who try to enforce to their brand of pseudo-secularism(like NDTV) nor by people who try to enforce their brand of pseudo-nationalism(like sangh parivar).Hope this clarifies.
BTW, you still havent answered my questions on Modi. Very typical. I have seen many people want him to be PM even among my friends, but no one has any proper answer as to why.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: the following parties have not announced thei
by INDIAN INFIDEL on Feb 08, 2013 10:52 AM
@Hari instead of asking questions on why he should be PM why dont you list out the reasons by which he shouldn't?By that way we can all gauge for you which side of the bread is buttered.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: the following parties have not announced thei
by Hari Narasimhan on Feb 08, 2013 11:10 AM
@Indian Infidel
I am not saying that he should become.As a citizen of India he has every right to contest as much as you and me.
Since I feel that his supporters are overestimating his abilities based on a few positive aspects of his governance(which I feel can be attributed to a couple of other CMs also) I asked those questions.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: the following parties have not announced thei
by INDIAN INFIDEL on Feb 08, 2013 11:33 AM
Hari your views seems to be of a person who prefers sitting on the fence as far as vote for a PM candidate is concerned.You said Modi has long way to go to be made PM,So are you saying that all the PM's till now as well as the Current PM got that based on merit?KHANgress ruled the nation more than 50 years and other than promoting DynasticHagemony have they done any goodFor the nation?Are you saying HD DevaGowda was a worthy PM candidate?Instead of giving out Inane statements like some JNU Professors decide first what are you looking for in a PM candidate and who is ur PM candidate from the current lot.
shenoy dont worry, he will chickenout and announce some one else to lead after the assembly elections in all those states going to polls this year. and congress party will prtray as if innerconscience of rahul rejected the position as he wants to bbuild the party and all the media people will singpeans about the conscience. we all have seen that and will see this again
We do not have tall leaders like indira gandhi or vajpayee anymore. We have many leaders of the same stature and none of them looks a clear choice for PM.
Re: tall leaders missing
by Abdullah Saikh on Feb 08, 2013 01:00 AM
Yes you r right!!! We need a leader like Indira Gandhi not MMS or any others & i see all the materials has with Mamata Banerjee only she needs to modify herself!!
Writer is wrong. There is no need for any party or coalition to announce the name of PM, there is no law governing it. If people are not happy about it then they need not vote for that party or coalition. Is someone assumes some name then it is his opinion or feeling and everyone is entitled to that. It is not easy in the coalition era to announce the PM name before the election results are out because no one knows how many seats each coalition member will win and what would be their bargaining power in the coalition. It is also not necessary to know the PMs name because laws are passsed by the majority of all MPs irrespective of party or coalition and PM has no veto power.
The writer is completely wrong ! congress never declared the PM, it was always assumed. Declaring is different than being assumed...why dont congress declare Rahul as PM now ??? do we know if he will be PM nominee from congress and MMS will resign ?? I dont think they have come anywhere close to this statement. so Shenoy is complelty srong this time..I am not sure how and why he is coming with this half baked article..he is generally quite clean.
Re: shenoy missed the most obvious and critical fact
by Me Communal on Feb 08, 2013 02:28 AM
Wxactly Shiplyt that was what I was thinking. These media people tell us it is the grand old Indian National congress. and only a few people know that this is not INC but indira congress, when she went out of it. Hand was not the election symbol if INc but is of indira congress. the youngsters have minimum knowldge about this also. and media guys put false information downthethroatof naiveIndians, like shenoy did. according to tradition Patel was unanimously elected by the elected MPs, but gandhi started this policy of high command and screwedindiansup al the way till today.
This article was the editorial of Kerala news paper Mathruboomi ..,not even one word differ. This was written by Shenai..rediff just translated it and put it here. I will report this to Mathruboomi