>>>>>>>Don't think there are any pure Aryans anymore. All got mixed now>>>>>>>>>>Then your ancestors are also there among those "mixedUp" groups!!!! TRhen why are you posingNonseQuestions to others??
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @giveanid
by giveanid on Apr 12, 2011 05:34 PM
You lost your orientation or what? hahaha. My advise: Don't wade into where you can't stand.
go through this video in youTube: "The collapse of Aryan Invasion Theory and the prevalence of Indigenism". it is 3-part video.
Nicholas Kazanas, who is a greek linguist, archaeologist and also a historian, has clearly explained about the MYTH called aryan invasion theory!!!! all the religions and languages went "OUT OF INDIA" and NOT "INTO INDIA"!!!!
Re: @giveanid - aryanInvasionTheory
by giveanid on Apr 12, 2011 05:26 PM
Selective reading, it is. Go and search with an open mind, you will find what the community accepts.
Re: Re: @giveanid - aryanInvasionTheory
by The Patriot on Apr 12, 2011 05:28 PM
i have read far more than u sweety!!!! and what else r u doing with ur doing??? isnt that selective reading????
starting from the rig veda, just give me the name of even a single place, city or a language which can describe where aryans came from!!!!!!
Re: Re: Re: @giveanid - aryanInvasionTheory
by giveanid on Apr 12, 2011 05:31 PM
You only need to search a bit. btw, I have read the so called refutations of the theory(abundant in pro BJP sites. Tells a story!). But not convincing at all.
Re: Re: Re: Re: @giveanid - aryanInvasionTheory
by The Patriot on Apr 12, 2011 05:33 PM
thats not a proBJP site but a greek historian who gave a lecture in IIT!!!!! he is not a SANGHI!!!!
"No, I haven't. I believe in it. Ever wondered why the northies have more in common with pakis tha with Tamilians or Keralites?"
what nonsense r u talking??? northies dont look any different from southies!!!! in fact, the genetic codes of indians have been taken and have found to be similar among the whole population of india, sri lanka, pakistan, bangladesh and nepal!!!!
Re: @giveanid
by giveanid on Apr 12, 2011 05:28 PM
"northies dont look any different from southies!!"
Hard to believe that you haven't noticed! Facial features, build, and in some cases, color, even language syntax are different. You should take some time to look into the language history as well.
Re: Re: @giveanid
by The Patriot on Apr 12, 2011 05:33 PM
that is based on the climate as well as the mixing up of lots of invaders with the natives in theirHarems starting from the muslimInvaders!!!!!
Where did "Azheekode" say that AryansInvadedIndia?? Btw even if there was someAryanInvasion, it is not the responsibility of theHindus in present day India to justify or refute the same. YourAncestors also might have been included in them as it took place even before the advent ofChristianity.
Re: @giveanid
by giveanid on Apr 12, 2011 05:21 PM
Azheekode says that part of Vedas were modified by the invaders. I don't remember which book or article. I have read that a long time back. He had a word for such selective inclusions, forgot that too. Hindus need not or can not refute it, though the RSS is hell bent on refuting it. My ancestors and your too, might have been one of the Aryans or Dravidians. That is not the point. The point is, the Vedas are not any 'designated' book, as claimed by Patriot.
that shows ur knowledge of hinduism!!!!! the designated book of hinduism are the vedas and upanishads (vedantas) and NOT the puranasOrItihasasOrSmrithis!!!
Re: Re: @giveanid - no designated book in hinduism??!!!!!
by The Patriot on Apr 12, 2011 05:17 PM
upanishads clearly say that even their vedic and upanishad books are clearly written by men!!!
upanishads says this: "the one who says he knows God doesn't even know what God is"!!!!!
Re: Re: Re: @giveanid - no designated book in hinduism??!!!!!
by JGN on Apr 12, 2011 05:13 PM
What does theyBelieve? Any way I do not hold any brief to defend them.
Re: Re: Re: Re: @giveanid - no designated book in hinduism??!!!!!
by giveanid on Apr 12, 2011 05:16 PM
They believe Hinduism is in grave danger and will be extinct soon.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @giveanid - no designated book in hinduism??!
by JGN on Apr 12, 2011 05:20 PM
They will take for of that. I need not worry about the same.
Re: @giveanid - no designated book in hinduism??!!!!!
by giveanid on Apr 12, 2011 05:10 PM
Oh, please! That is ignorance man. According to some people like Azheeode, the Vedas were actually written/modified after the Aryan invasion and hence it contains the chaturvarnya references.
Re: Re: @giveanid - no designated book in hinduism??!!!!!
by The Patriot on Apr 12, 2011 05:12 PM
hahahahahahahahahahahaha.......havent u still left the clutches of the AryanIvasionTheory????
Re: Re: Re: @giveanid - no designated book in hinduism??!!!!!
by giveanid on Apr 12, 2011 05:15 PM
No, I haven't. I believe in it. Ever wondered why the northies have more in common with pakis tha with Tamilians or Keralites?
Re: Re: @giveanid - no designated book in hinduism??!!!!!
by JGN on Apr 12, 2011 05:12 PM
AryanInvasion was a figment of MaxMuller'sImagination and was debunked during his lifetime itself. You are still clinging to that!!!
Re: Re: Re: @giveanid - no designated book in hinduism??!!!!!
by giveanid on Apr 12, 2011 05:14 PM
It is widely accepted and I believe that. No matter what the sanghi historians have to say, it is accepted worldwide, by the historic community. And people like Azheekode, who has spent a life researching in it, I respect more than wiki experts.
Re: Re: Re: Re: @giveanid - no designated book in hinduism??!!!!!
by JGN on Apr 12, 2011 05:16 PM
Azheekode is aCommieNonBeliever!!! How do you trust him??
Can you name five prominent Aryans in present day India??
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @giveanid - no designated book in hinduism??!
by giveanid on Apr 12, 2011 05:17 PM
Azheekode is a commie. But read tatwamasi to know about his research.
Don't think there are any pure Aryans anymore. All got mixed now.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @giveanid - no designated book in hinduism??!
by JGN on Apr 12, 2011 05:22 PM
Then your ancestors are also there among those "mixedUp" groups!!!!
>>>>In Hinduism, if you die in battle, you will go to heaven, called veeraswargam. That one?>>>> I have not found any suchVerse in any HinduBooks. Can you pl give quote the relevantVerse here?
Btw WarIs NOT waged against unarmedCivilians. There were strict rules even for wagingWars in India.
Re: @ giveanid
by The Patriot on Apr 12, 2011 04:56 PM
not according to vedas or upanishads but bhagavadGita says that after a person dies and before he takes the next rebirth, he or she will spend time in hellAndHeaven based on hisKarma!!!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: @ giveanid
by giveanid on Apr 12, 2011 05:06 PM
The worth of fiction is not in knowing the story, but in knowing the belief of the times. From the stories, you find out what people believed. Esp in Hinduism, which doesn't have a designated book.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @ giveanid
by The Patriot on Apr 12, 2011 05:07 PM
that shows ur knowledge of hinduism!!!!! the designated book of hinduism are the vedas and upanishads (vedantas)!!!
Re: @ giveanid
by giveanid on Apr 12, 2011 04:58 PM
I can only tell you to read the puranas. Read the part after the war, where Yudhishtira goes to heaven, and also sees Duryodhana in the veeraswargam. Then he asks how come he got in there. The answer is your answer.
Re: Re: @ giveanid
by JGN on Apr 12, 2011 05:01 PM
And you believe them word to word!!!!! Mahabharata is anEpic(Story) containing some UniversalTruth and goodMorals. Nothing more than that.
Re: Re: Re: Re: @ giveanid
by The Patriot on Apr 12, 2011 05:06 PM
the belief is important for only people who believe!!!!! if u dont believe, are there any side-effects??
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @ giveanid
by giveanid on Apr 12, 2011 05:08 PM
Dracula is rooted in Xtian faith. It does not propose a religion or even a way of living.
TheAncientSages of ourCountryBelieved that the Universe originated form a SinglePrimalPrincipleCalledSAT and in what ever form weWorship, the same ultimately reaches the said PrimalPrinciple(SAT). That was one reason for theReligiousTolerance inIndia. For aBelievingHindu, JesusChristAndAllah are also anotherForm ofGod. SearchWeb for more info onSAT as time and space available here is not sufficient to explain to you in detail.
