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manoj
Why Chinese invasion will happen and is good for Indians -part 1
by manoj on Jul 13, 2009 03:52 PM  | Hide replies

1. Nehru gifted Indias UNSC seat to China. Immediately China attacked India. International sympathy/support is absolute imagination. Everything is decided by UN security council, in which China is a member. If UNSC try to plan any action against China, they will simply veto it. There is no such privilege for India in UNSC.

2. China is feared by all Asian countries. So nobody will help India. US and Europe has tremendous business stakes in Chiona, so will keep quiet. But they will keep selling weapons to both sides.

3. Indian military is very weak becoz of corruption and political manipulation and lack of experience and ego on the top hierarchy. They want to continue to enjoy the privileges and perks without actually fighting. The nexus between weapon agents, politicians and military top brass will ensure their own survival by immediate surrender.

4. Death for corrupt people and criminals: In China, punishment for corruption and other major crimes is death, even if the criminal is a ruling party leader or minister. Most number of criminals are shot dead by goverment in China compared to all the world. After taking over India, China will eliminate corruption and crime using firing squads. Guns will talk and criminals will listen. Also they will shoot Indian Communist leaders, leftist Intellectuals, Mulsims terrorists, human right activists and gays. Becoz China has no use for these.

5. Chinese have a respect for merit and skillset. They will immeidately scrap all reservati

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Haramohan Roy
Re: Why Chinese invasion will happen and is good for Indians -par
by Haramohan Roy on Jul 13, 2009 04:19 PM
Mr Manoj, excuse me - but it does appear that you have just now been released from a lunatic asylum!!

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rohiet
Re: Re: Why Chinese invasion will happen and is good for Indians
by rohiet on Jul 13, 2009 04:22 PM
Whole Porkistan is A Mental Asylum.
I know Porkies wants to be like Indians and they have started keeping Hindoo names.

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manoj
Re: Why Chinese invasion will happen and is good for Indians -par
by manoj on Jul 13, 2009 03:53 PM
They will select people based on merit and skillset only.



6. China dont believe in democracy and elections, so they will stop Indias vote bank politics, Huj subsidy, and mulsim appeasement.

7. The main concern of China is that the present UPA goverment in India is encouraging the growth of Is1amic fundamentalism in India, which China considers a larger threat. Once Is1amic fundamentalists dominate India and unite various mulsim countries around it, China will be in big trouble.

8. India has lost 3 wars with Pak and 1 with China. Thats why 40% of Kashmir is under Pak, 10% is under China and China considers Arunachal pradesh theirs.

9. India are the biggest fools paradise on earth. Patriotism is pure business. Shouting and screaming about old and imaginary glories never gives any benefit.

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Shirish Vaigaonkar
Re: Re: Why Chinese invasion will happen and is good for Indians
by Shirish Vaigaonkar on Jul 13, 2009 04:22 PM
Manoj, you seem to be in stranglehold of pessimism. You seem to believe everything in India sucks and it's all hunky dory in China. Yeh duniya China ke baap ki nahin hai ki woh India par attack kar dega.

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rohiet
Re: Re: Why Chinese invasion will happen and is good for Indians
by rohiet on Jul 13, 2009 04:21 PM
Porkies won 3 wars...if thats the case where did Bangladesh came from...your momma's big C

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satyananda rao
Re: Re: Why Chinese invasion will happen and is good for Indians
by satyananda rao on Jul 13, 2009 04:17 PM
what nonsense ? when did pakistan win against india ? pakistan is difiguerd in nto two pieces and it does not exist any more. what remains are west pakistan and bangladesh.

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satyananda rao
china is worried about indian supremacy
by satyananda rao on Jul 13, 2009 03:51 PM  | Hide replies

china will never attack india because it will ruin their economy as well. India is not such small power any more .With messiles and hydrogen bombs in its hands , india has more or less insulated the threat of agression from china.
Above all Russia and America besides Europe will not allow this to happen. India is required for them to counter china's dominance.
IF china's exports came down, it is not because of india. Our exports also came down.
But Indian exports for hardware will now catch up besides mentaining supremacy in software thus ensuring better days for india.China's economic muzle is like buble .It is bound to collapse. China is under quoting and getting orders. Its goods are useless with no quality tag. The multinationals will withdraw from china once india creates a base for hardware and allows free investment economy. The markets are bound to shift to india.

corruption is much worse in china. Even government involves in fudging accounts and show inflated economy figures.The inflated baloon is bound to get deflated.

It is true that we have to remove beaurocratic hurdles and take fast decisions on procurement of arms and technologies for armed forces.Once we do the same , china wll never dare to think of war with inda.




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manoj
Re: china is worried about indian supremacy
by manoj on Jul 13, 2009 03:54 PM
Indian military is very weak becoz of corruption and political manipulation and lack of experience and ego on the top hierarchy. The nexus between weapon agents, politicians and military top brass will ensure their own survival by immediate surrender. They want to continue to enjoy the privileges and perks without actually fighting.

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rohiet
Re: Re: china is worried about indian supremacy
by rohiet on Jul 13, 2009 04:25 PM
Chinkies run on their ancient WWII aircraft which they gifted Porkies too.
Do you believe their indigenous aircrafts have that potential....Naah.

Porkies know they cant beat India so they are now looking at Chinkies.

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anga dupa
angadupa
by anga dupa on Jul 13, 2009 03:48 PM  | Hide replies

India & China is two fatest economy of the world. Definetely China takes over India by 2012.

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rohiet
Re: angadupa
by rohiet on Jul 13, 2009 04:27 PM
China will crumble by 2012.

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Sanjay Kala
Why 2012
by Sanjay Kala on Jul 13, 2009 03:42 PM  | Hide replies

Can any body including the news writer- Verma can specifically tell why the hell it is 2012 only not before or after that or will this 2012 ever come or will be extended for infinity?

I think it a mere day-dreaming to attack India, which is not only high in numbers but equally very high in quality.

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srinivas satyanarayan
Re: Why 2012
by srinivas satyanarayan on Jul 13, 2009 03:45 PM
he's more like road side astrologer not a journalist

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ganapathi
Re: Re: Why 2012
by ganapathi on Jul 13, 2009 04:48 PM
Though i don't know about the author, i heared from some astrologers that there will be large sclae human loss from 2010 to 2012 by the way of war, natural calamity and epidemic disease. This is because the nature wants to renew itself as it was spoiled a lot by human beings. somebody predicts that around 200 crores of people will die because of above events in 2 years. They say that recent Tsunami which claimed around 2 lakhs people in 20 minutes, swine , bird flue are some trailors only.
But the only good news they is that India will become super power after this incidents.

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MANISH BAGDI
Re: Why 2012
by MANISH BAGDI on Jul 13, 2009 03:51 PM
attack on india will be supress the development in the country, destroy the industrial buildup, infrastructure, dams, etc which are capital intensive projects, more people will be unemployed. India is on the verge of tseady progressing economy, not much effected by the recession world wide, chinese economy is well spread and has affected by the recession ( the article has covered the sme in well)Indian are weak in decision making and action taking here china will definately supress india.

We are politically very weak. Mr. Verma has covered the demographic development in China, democracyn is preffered by chinese people.

We are not weak and will give better asnwer to chinese attack this time our forces are well prepared and are best in the world, let chinese experience this, they will be defeted and this make india a super power.

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Madhav Shastry
Re: Why 2012
by Madhav Shastry on Jul 13, 2009 04:34 PM
I think this is 2012 doomsday prediction as written in Mayan Calendar .. that world is going to end ... it will be 3rd world war with nuclear weapons

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MANISH BAGDI
Unimaginable but true fact
by MANISH BAGDI on Jul 13, 2009 03:42 PM  | Hide replies

I respect views of Mr. Verma but what china will get by attacking India. China definately knows that India is not in the position of 1962 and can lodge a war direct on to the India soil. A war may creat a more difficult scenario for China then India. China has seven countries surrounding itself while India has mere pakistan and china, Pakistan has nothing to syand in front of India and has already accepted the mistakes of developing the militancy and terrorism, indirectly they have given up.

India on the other hand has concived the Chinese intention and has reviving all the AIr strips of North - east and is eastablishing and unpenetrated Air Force network, and this development may take another 2-3 years and by that time a more claculative evaluation will be done. India also looks in hurry to deploy the world's best Su-30MKI which are far ahead then any of the current fighter in the region.

Economically both will suffer a lot and there will be losses beyond andbodys claculation.

USA will further add fuel to fier in this hot dispute definately supporting to India, India will purchase arms on credit and will be in huge debt of US supplied ams, US arms firms alog with Isreal and russia will all prosper we will be more poorer.

Add more weapon to the forces increase more soilders, add fighters and most important for India is to maintain a good pool of money for war like situation. Diplomats have to play a biggeer role with stretagists for this types of situations.

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srk
Re: Unimaginable but true fact
by srk on Jul 13, 2009 04:20 PM
Definitely, I agree China would attack India. Because China is increasing their wings around India. They have their presence in Nepal, Pakistan, Indonesia, Sri lanka everywhere around India. And of course, their warships are in Arabian Sea also. So by all chances they would definitely attach India, but before 2012. Again, we welcome attacking India, because India was poking into its neighbour issues unncessarilly(Nepal,Pakistan,Bangladesh) as though you are superpowers. Now when China attacks, you would realise the ground fact that you are not superpower, but not even an power. We welcome you chinese to hit India.

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MANISH BAGDI
Unimaginable but true fact
by MANISH BAGDI on Jul 13, 2009 03:42 PM

I respect views of Mr. Verma but what china will get by attacking India. China definately knows that India is not in the position of 1962 and can lodge a war direct on to the India soil. A war may creat a more difficult scenario for China then India. China has seven countries surrounding itself while India has mere pakistan and china, Pakistan has nothing to syand in front of India and has already accepted the mistakes of developing the militancy and terrorism, indirectly they have given up.

India on the other hand has concived the Chinese intention and has reviving all the AIr strips of North - east and is eastablishing and unpenetrated Air Force network, and this development may take another 2-3 years and by that time a more claculative evaluation will be done. India also looks in hurry to deploy the world's best Su-30MKI which are far ahead then any of the current fighter in the region.

Economically both will suffer a lot and there will be losses beyond andbodys claculation.

USA will further add fuel to fier in this hot dispute definately supporting to India, India will purchase arms on credit and will be in huge debt of US supplied ams, US arms firms alog with Isreal and russia will all prosper we will be more poorer.

Add more weapon to the forces increase more soilders, add fighters and most important for India is to maintain a good pool of money for war like situation. Diplomats have to play a biggeer role with stretagists for this types of situations.

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Ram Sharma
How India can prevent a Chinese attack?
by Ram Sharma on Jul 13, 2009 03:37 PM  | Hide replies

By having a reliable long range Nuclear missile capability-based at land, sea and air!

Once the Chines dragon is convinced of this they dare not attack India!

Many may not be aware that so far China has lost all wars it has fought(except 1962):-

1. Defeated by Chengis Khan, the Mongol.
2. Defeated in the Chinese- Japanese 100 years war.
3. Defeated by the Russians.
4. Defeated by the US South Korea combine in the war against North Korea in 1950.

Let Indians become a little more organised, strenghten the armed forces, control the population, sort out internal squabbles etc so that they can keep the dragon at bay! Jai Hind!



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manoj
Re: How India can prevent a Chinese attack?
by manoj on Jul 13, 2009 03:43 PM
Repeating old stories never give any benefit.

300 years ago, United States of America and Canada didnt exist.
North American continent was populated by a few million tribals.

Whats is the stature of USA and Canada now ?

In 1950, China was a weak nation. At that time India was considered stronger than China. UN security council offered membership to India. But commie VK krishnamenon forced Nehru to gift it to China.

Now think about the status of China in UN security council, their economic growth, and how the big nations support China with great enthusiasm.

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Ram Sharma
Re: Re: How India can prevent a Chinese attack?
by Ram Sharma on Jul 13, 2009 06:53 PM
A little bit of recent historical knowledge never harmed any one, Mr. manoj. It may not harm you .

Your talk about 3 centuries ago is irrelvant. Come back to post ww2 era!

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Ram Sharma
How India can prevent a Chinese attack?
by Ram Sharma on Jul 13, 2009 03:37 PM  | Hide replies

By having a reliable long range Nuclear missile capability-based at land, sea and air!

Once the Chines dragon is convinced of this they dare not attack India!

Many may not be aware that so far China has lost all wars it has fought(except 1962):-

1. Defeated by Chengis Khan, the Mongol.
2. Defeated in the Chinese- Japanese 100 years war.
3. Defeated by the Russians.
4. Defeated by the US South Korea combine in the war against North Korea in 1950.

Let Indians become a little more organised, strenghten the armed forces, control the population, sort out internal squabbles etc so that they can keep the dragon at bay! Jai Hind!



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Nibiru
Re: How India can prevent a Chinese attack?
by Nibiru on Jul 13, 2009 03:44 PM
Rather than nuclear weapons, upcomming world war three would be fought using bio-weapons and HAARP, which are far dangerous than nuclear.

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srinivas satyanarayan
This is stupidity, please dont devide two nations
by srinivas satyanarayan on Jul 13, 2009 03:32 PM  | Hide replies

Stop this nonsense,these are like venom please dont do that.
In my view India and China should cooperate each other hense emerge Asia as super power. These things only helps spoiling relationship, I condemn such publications

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Bhajiya
Re: This is stupidity, please dont devide two nations
by Bhajiya on Jul 13, 2009 03:35 PM
China is great superpower in wealth, manpower, and political as well as military power in the world.

India is not chinese competitor. China is competing with US & Europe.

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srinivas satyanarayan
Re: Re: This is stupidity, please dont devide two nations
by srinivas satyanarayan on Jul 13, 2009 03:37 PM
exactly

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lobster
will be a costly mistake
by lobster on Jul 13, 2009 03:30 PM  | Hide replies

all u guys talk n0n-sense without trying to know the facts. yes ofcourse ur right that china is overwhelmingly superior to india in numbers, and it can cause untold havoc on india either in conventional and nuclear war. but guys indian military is no pushover. FYI, indian military doctrine permits second strike. it means if we are attacked either with conventional or nuclear weapons, all the "hidden" strike capabilities like missiles (read: not just agni or prithvi which are also capable of reaching any chinese target except for far east chinese targets) and frontline strike fighters (su-mki : read: china has no answer to this fighter) will be used to hit enemy targets. so even if india suffers extensive damage it will still have the capability to launch a vicious second strike which also can dent china's military,economic infrastructure back by several decades.
inturn china will bcome vulnerable herself to attacks both internally (read: xingiang and Tibet) and externally (taiwan, japan, vietnam,...etc with whom china has inumerable boundary disputes and USA will be glad to sponsor above attacks).
So under such circumstances China which is a group of forcibly annexed territories will crumble just like soviet union did. as such the idea of invading india will cost china very dearly and will ultimately threaten its very existance.

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manoj
Re: will be a costly mistake
by manoj on Jul 13, 2009 03:31 PM
as soon as China attacks and takes over the north east, the UN security coucil will pressurise India not to retaliate.

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Balakrishnan Subramanian
Re: Re: will be a costly mistake
by Balakrishnan Subramanian on Jul 13, 2009 03:41 PM
Once recession is over China or any other country including India will be busy in their business. Is recession will prolong till 2012? So there will not be war threat, If there is no continued recession. But be prepared for any worst is good strategy.

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