The main concern of China is that the present UPA goverment in India is encouraging the growth of Is1amic fundamentalism in India, which China considers a larger threat. Once Is1amic fundamentalists dominate India and unite various mulsim countries around it, China will be in big trouble.
Re: The main concern of China is ...
by srinivas satyanarayan on Jul 13, 2009 03:42 PM
in that case they will support BJP why they attack? it's nonsense right?
Those who do not know much about chiness qualification in its size of economy, size of wealth,Global political status as UN Security Council Membership with VETO power. Ability to Organize Olyompics, Chinese Infra structure, Chinese overseas takeover of Australian Mining Industry, Oil Fields in Africa are talking such nonsence. China do not count India as threat to Chinese interest. China always compete with US and Europe. We Indians must first learn about facts on china before making sweeping bullish remarks.
Re: China is Super Power has no interest in India
by sachin w on Jul 13, 2009 03:39 PM
Sure and what do u know abt chinese economy? all cooked up figures given by chinese govt not independently verified by any imprtial authority.No foriegner is allowed to go beyong shanghai and beijieng or any other cities,The poverty in interior china is huge as compared to India also in Shanghai only chinese upto age of 50 are allowed to stay.It is very eay to critise ones country as we are free due to democracy.Try to do same thing in China
ISLAMABAD: At least 15 people, including seven children, were killed and 70 others injured in a powerful blast which destroyed a madrassa in a small
village in Pakistan's Punjab province.
The blast, caused by explosives stored in the house of a teacher, destroyed the madrassa and several houses in the village near Mian Channu in southern Punjab, officials said.
Local police and rescue officials told TV channels that 15 people, including seven children, were killed in the blast. Many of the dead were buried under the debris of collapsed homes.
They said the toll could rise as more bodies were believed to be under the rubble.
Doctors in local hospitals said 70 injured people had been brought for treatment. An emergency was declared in all hospitals near Mian Channu.
Officials said the blast was caused by explosives stored in the house of schoolteacher Riaz Ali. It was not immediately known what triggered the blast.
Footage aired by TV channels showed rescue workers removing parts of shells and bombs from the site of the explosion. The blast created a crater 40 feet wide and eight feet deep.
In todays scenario, direct war/confrontation without any valid reason is unthinkable and will not stand. Given the nuclear power capability why would china dare such an act just to solve their internal problem?. Even if china succeeds in some sort of victory in the end game, war will take them back to 30 more years for victory over India is not going to be a cakewalk.
Anyway this article is too farfetched. This analysis is just like weather forecast /stock market forecast.
The losses from war will outweigh the gains.I think this article is cooked up by some interested parties to increase the military expenditure or to sell some crap technology to india by some vested interests.
Re: So called analysts
by gaurav kaul on Jul 13, 2009 03:33 PM
valid reason?plenty...they have loads of territorial ambitions not to mention to spread and impose their communist idealogy to a secular nation
INDIANS HAVE VERY SIMPLE OPTION FOR CHINA:- NUCLEAR BOMB...NUCLEAR BOMB AND NUCLEAR BOMB..NO MATTER WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO INDIA..THIS BLOODY CHINESE WILL ATLEAST LEARN SOME LESSON IF THEIR PEOPLE WILL DIE AND THEIR ECONOMY WILL CRUSH...
Not only China, even US appears to be frustrated with the developments in India. All who enjoyed the "elite group status" will naturally feel bad to broadern that circle. One has to break all these barriers to really on the top. If corruption is totally get rid from Indian polity-We can beet anybody in the world. That means-we acquire quality arms!! Not sub-standard fighter jets/jackets etc..
Re: On the way to Success
by manoj on Jul 13, 2009 03:04 PM
Indian military is very weak becoz of corruption and political manipulation and lack of experience and ego on the top hierarchy. The nexus between weapon agents, politicians and military top brass will ensure their own survival by immediate surrender. They want to continue to enjoy the privileges and perks without actually fighting.
Re: Re: On the way to Success
by Rony Felix on Jul 13, 2009 03:16 PM
manoj...if you where in their shoes you would do the same....stop blabbering. It is guys like you who are useless. I strongly back the Indian Army and do believe that they can give tough resistance to any attack arising from anyside of the world. China wouldnt dare to lift a tiny finger against India coz they are sure they will get a befitting nuclear reply and that is not something that any country would want to have.
Re: Re: Re: On the way to Success
by Indian Guru on Jul 13, 2009 03:34 PM
Backing the Indian Army in Spirit is different from fighting on ground.
China is a different fighting force than Pakistan. What our concern is not the numbers but the failure of critical equipment and processes in the hour of war.
Defence procurements are fraught with red tapism, delay and beuracracy. Even in times of war arm force agents and dealers make a killing.
You don't have to look far beyond. Kargil a small intensity conflict had consumed such huge human and financial resources. There is still a surcharge running after 10 years on fuel for Kargil Fund.
Emotoions run high in India, as we are not habituated to bloody wars. India comes to a virtual stand still during wars. Indians are not habituated to high intensity conflicts unlike the Americans and Europeans who are technically at war since 1991.
Just the recent toll of war in Iraq/Af/Pak has consumed 6000 soldiers. We don't find any histeria in Americas, but the war is on.
I doubt whether India is ready for a long drawn conflict with our neighbours and its not just the military fighting. Its also about handling the politics, civilians, finances, procurements, logistics, economy and host of other things during a war, which makes us very vulnerabale.
And if a nuclear exchange does happen it is a forgone conclusion as India will be thrown behind ages in history and will almost result in India disintegrating to fragments due to the social structure prevelant in the society.
Re: Re: Re: Re: On the way to Success
by manoj on Jul 13, 2009 03:45 PM
Exactly, Indians are the biggest fools paradise on earth. Patriotism is pure business.
Re: Re: On the way to Success
by rinku on Jul 13, 2009 03:31 PM
Yes manoj you are right. 1948 , 65 , 71 war between are lossed to pakisatn but media show that India won. I if India won the battle than why POK exist. India loose both war and show that Winning scene
1. Nehru gifted Indias UNSC seat to China. Immediately China attacked India. International sympathy/support is absolute imagination. Everything is decided by UN security council, in which China is a member. If UNSC try to plan any action against China, they will simply veto it. There is no such privilege for India in UNSC.
2. China is feared by all Asian countries. So nobody will help India. US and Europe has tremendous business stakes in Chiona, so will keep quiet. But they will keep selling weapons to both sides.
3. Indian military is very weak becoz of corruption and political manipulation and lack of experience and ego on the top hierarchy. They want to continue to enjoy the privileges and perks without actually fighting. The nexus between weapon agents, politicians and military top brass will ensure their own survival by immediate surrender.
4. Death for corrupt people and criminals: In China, punishment for corruption and other major crimes is death, even if the criminal is a ruling party leader or minister. Most number of criminals are shot dead by goverment in China compared to all the world. After taking over India, China will eliminate corruption and crime using firing squads. Guns will talk and criminals will listen. Also they will shoot Indian Communist leaders, leftist Intellectuals, Mulsims terrorists, human right activists and gays. Becoz China has no use for these.
5. Chinese have a respect for merit and skillset. They will scrap all reservations.
China & India r the current 2 fastest economy of the world.The way they r going right now, i don't think both of them would be challenged at least for next 25-30 years economically. Both r nuclear armed, posses a large amount of weapons of mass destruction, manpower and r becoming technologically more & more advanced.All these r making them key world players in today's global world.The entire world is getting concentrated near them.The world power is shifting from west to east (ie RIC - Russia,India & China and also Japan can be included too.) The entire world is getting apprehensive about the manner in which they r progressing while carrying such a heavy burden of population.
The pace at which they r progressing has become their need.So, both of them can't think of a war.The consequences of war would be disastrous.The amount of life,wealth,resources all will become exhausted with no infrastructure, to match the current progress rate.It means, a war would easily send them at least a minimum of 30-50 yrs back which they can't afford. Both the country want to be counted, but a war can't decide.It doesn't matter who wins/loose because the price to pay would be too high. That's why if they go for a war, both will be looser's !!!!!!!!!!
Re: Both will be loosers !
by manoj on Jul 13, 2009 03:02 PM
Indian military is very weak becoz of corruption and political manipulation and lack of experience and ego on the top hierarchy. The nexus between weapon agents, politicians and military top brass will ensure their own survival by immediate surrender. They want to continue to enjoy the privileges and perks without actually fighting.
Re: Both will be loosers !
by dghhhnhn dbndnhrhrhh on Jul 13, 2009 03:06 PM
China can push India and win border war in north east, but do you think India have courage to use nueclear arms first?. Beside that current Indian missilies can not reach any important city of China while China can attack any indian city, so our current nueclear capability is not good enough to save us against China. We need ICBM and Nueclear Submarines and SLBMs to deter China, till we are vulnerable.
Re: Re: Both will be loosers !
by lobster on Jul 13, 2009 03:28 PM
all u guys talk n0n-sense without trying to know the facts. yes ofcourse ur right that china is overwhelmingly superior to india in numbers, and it can cause untold havoc on india either in conventional and nuclear war. but guys indian military is no pushover. FYI, indian military doctrine permits second strike. it means if we are attacked either with conventional or nuclear weapons, all the "hidden" strike capabilities like missiles (read: not just agni or prithvi which are also capable of reaching any chinese target except for far east chinese targets) and frontline strike fighters (su-mki : read: china has no answer to this fighter) will be used to hit enemy targets. so even if india suffers extensive damage it will still have the capability to launch a vicious second strike which will also can dent china's military,economic infrastructure back by several decades. inturn china will bcome vulnerable herself to attacks both internally (read: xingiang and Tibet) and externally (taiwan, japan, vietnam,...etc with whom china has inumerable boundary disputes and USA will be glad to sponsor above attacks). So under such circumstances China which is a group of forcibly annexed territories will crumble just like soviet union did. as such the idea of invading india will cost china very dearly and will ultimately threaten its very existance.
