There was not much difference betweeen periyar and MOhandas Gandhi - both tried emotional blackmail to impose what they thought was right on the common man.
Periyar and their followers in their zeal to impose so-called rationalism and atheism on Hindus, used to garland Hindu gods with Chappals and take a procession on the streets! They thought that such acts would humilialte and de-hinduise the majority!
'Periyar was against Brahminism, not Brahmins' this interview with Mr Gnana Rajasekharan, is a thought provking one and enlighted me. i did learn gem of lessons for life from the principle of Great Periyar. it is indeed true that Periyar was much ahead of his time. i firmly believe that he was against relgious practices not religions.
his radical thinking and belief is clearly shown in his writing "In 1928, he started a movement called self-respect movement. If you read it, you will see he had such a great vision."
At the entrance to the conference, it was written, widows and those who are branded as prostitutes are welcome. He always respected women.
RE:my opinion
by parthasarathy sarathy on Apr 30, 2007 10:09 AM Permalink
If this is the article that will enlighten you, then, not even Jesus or Allah can save you (as a follower of E.V.Ramasamy Naicker, you will not have the guts to say that other religions such as Islam and Christianity also should not preach God - that is your hypocrisy). A man who never had any principles in his life, was happy shooting off the hip inanities, made it big only because he targetted the Brahmins, who were and are the weakest politically, socially and financially. Would you accept his "teaching" that your mother or sister/s need not be chaste? Come on yaar, if you have gained in life because of his Brahmin - baiting where he ordered that one should kill the Brahmin and not the snake, go ahead and enjoy it in his name. Why do you want to perpetrate a legacy that is a shame on any right thinking individual?
RE:my opinion
by Gagan on Apr 30, 2007 09:52 AM Permalink
You are right. He was against nudity in public, but not against not wearing pants in public :)
'The attempt to promote 'temple entry' and 'abolition of untouchability' by the Congress leaders should not result in the tragedy of people belonging to the backward classes getting reduced to the level of scheduled castes. Instead of attempting to raise the status of Scheduled Castes (Parayans), an attempt should not be made to reduce the status of backward Class (Sudrans) by relegating them to the levels of Scheduled Castes. On no account should the existing status of Sudrans be reduced to the level of Parayans'.
'One of the main reasons why there is an upward trend in the prices of clothes and textiles is that women belonging to the Scheduled Castes (Parachies) have started wearing blouses these days. The reason for growing unemployment in society is on account of increasing number of people belonging to Scheduled Castes (Parayans) taking to school education and higher education'.
They the %u201Cthe.kaa%u201D party only play with Brahmins. Although they know the Brahmins dont have anything to do with this Periiiiyar statue.. They have no courage to do it with other communities or religions. They can plant a %u201CP%u201D statue in front of Hindhu temples. My question is will they have courage to do such kind of ackward acts in front of a Church or Mosque??
There was a saying %u201COnly religious people will destroy temples, churches and mosques, But dont you ever hear an athiest doing such things??%u201D Born as a Brahmin and living as an strict atheist this moment i am very much stunned and shameful by seeing such kind of ackward acts of hurting others personal religious sentiments by this so called %u201CPeriyar%u201D groups.
They are doing none other than targeting a particular community. These people are adding more shame to the atheist community.
A true atheist never attempt to hurt others religious sentiments until otherwise he is targeted by the religious acts and religious people.
This guy claims to be against caste system but talks about periyars caste status as royal? It should have been Periyar is against Brahmins but not against Brahmanism! Basically Brahmanism is attributed to quality of an individual despite birth assigned caste. So these guys are against good quality? Or you should be telling "Periyar is against Brahmins who does't practice Brahminism"! Did God told Periyar that not believing in him makes him a better humanbeing. There are infinite "isms" but all fail from time to time. You can be a humane but keep eating all animals but yet you are not a completely compassionate person. Athiests are No#1 rascals in this world. If you understand God a bit then you will be a good human too. The problem is people find fault with God out of inhumane people. This is an insane interview.
We have heard Periyar used his powers to lure a young girl to marry him, when Naikar was pretty old. That would be equal woman right, for he didn't marry an old lady of 60 years. It is more like ordinary perversion.
Did he like wine too ? All this abt a power hungry person who allied himself with the culture of our rulers, and assaulted subjects ?
I want to ask two question to the producer of the filim and the hero 1. Did Periar had the guts to oppose the religious superstitions in other religions. 2. They were against only the Hindu God or the Gods of other religions also? I know both cannot give stright answer to these question. I respect all religions and the superstitions should be left to the inviduals
RE:periyar
by Saminathan S on Apr 30, 2007 10:24 AM Permalink
Periyar's way of protesting against hindusim was shameful and it was in uncivilised manner. However worth, Periyar's thoughts, he was valued by his hardline/violent provoking actions.
Even today , large people remembered him as a person who put chappels/shoes to Vinayagar statue and what a wonder!, today people repeated the act to him ...
RE:periyar
by Muralidharan Iyengar on Apr 30, 2007 09:50 AM Permalink
He said tamil is a KAATTU MOZHI. He himself is not a tamilian. He is a kannada speaking person. Dint u know this?
RE:periyar
by biz Narayan on Apr 30, 2007 09:36 AM Permalink
Anbuchezhian, Periyar applied the british idea of 'race', as the Jewish 'race', and created a political movement where Brahmins were worse than Jews. Some tamils objected, but they were under the rule of british for a long time, so periyars racism became synonomous with exclusive tamil. Naikar was an oppurtinist.
RE:periyar
by parthasarathy sarathy on Apr 30, 2007 10:22 AM Permalink
God is not Hindu - religion based. If you say that there is no God and that is the basis for the existence of your Kazhagam, you should have stood in front of Santhome Church and Triplicane mosque and protested. Instead, you chose only the Kanchi Mutt and Srirangam temple for exhibiting your cowardice. In Ramasamy Naicker's own words - it is all Vengaayam (onion). EVRN said that Tamil is a barbaric language, all Tamilians are fools and he pleaded with the British to continue with British rule for the Madras Presidency alone. Is this the way he tried to fight for upliftment of Tamils? Nearly 100 years after the injustice party was founded by EVRN and 40 years of rule in TN by his closest followers, the really poor, unlettered Tamilian continues to rot in his thatched shed hut. It is only the likes of Anbuchezhiyan who have used EVRN's slander against Brahmins to gain ascendancy in society and not through hard work and intelligence. And by opposing creamy layer in reservation and supporting reservation per se, they want to keep the poor among the OBCs as poor and continue to perpetuate casteism. Amen!
RE:RE:periyar
by rolladesi on Apr 30, 2007 09:38 AM Permalink
Sir - his followers garlanded HIndi gods with chappels and beat them with chappels!! Would they have the guts to do that with other religions?
From the article, it looks like brahmins occupied most of the Govt. posts in early 1900s - It is well known now, how much corruption has crept into the Govt. offices. Maybe bringing back the brahmins to these offices would be a great idea. This could probably ensure that Govt. offices function smooth and corruption free - even benefiting the so-called "lower castes" much better than at present - Especially since social stigma(ta) such as untouchability and other ills have been more or less eliminated ...
RE:bring back brahmins as rulers
by on Apr 30, 2007 09:51 AM Permalink
The corruption was there even in 1900s. As at that time India was under British rule, the corrupted and useless brahmins put the blame on British. If we bring back the brahmins that would do more harm...for example..the former ex-chief minister of tamilnadu. None of the politicians could be compared (corruption perspective) with our ex-chief minister.
RE:bring back brahmins as rulers
by parthasarathy sarathy on Apr 30, 2007 10:25 AM Permalink
Karunanidhi is incorrupt? Ha, ha, ha, thanks for making my day as a very laughable one. It is beyond a shadow of doubt that Brahmins are the least corrupt and corruptible
RE:bring back brahmins as rulers
by Rubakumar S on Apr 30, 2007 10:22 AM Permalink
The root cause of corruption is Brahmins. They have divided the society and are looting the poor sons of the soil till today.
RE:bring back brahmins as rulers
by sanjay on Apr 30, 2007 09:51 AM Permalink
whatever. higher caste will be higher and lower caste will be lower as long as there is reservation system-mentality never changes.
RE:bring back brahmins as rulers
by kba k on Apr 30, 2007 09:55 AM Permalink
read it as "caste system" not "reservation system". as long as caste is there, reservation is a MUST.
A gem of a series was serialized in the Thuglaq magazine that exposed the so called greatness of Periyar. The man was full of hare brained ideas and they are not in the least rational. It is fashionable to anoint god like status to dravidian politicians and the revered IAS officer is doing his best to curry favors with the powers that be.
RE:Regarding Periyar's greatness
by ganesh krish on Apr 30, 2007 09:33 AM Permalink
Thuglag is run by Cho Ramaswamy, who a Brahmin. We can expect him to praise periyar. BTW he supported Jeyendra saraswathi (sankaracharya or kanchi mutt) even after he has been convicted of murder.
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by kba k on Apr 30, 2007 09:39 AM Permalink
as the friend(ganesh krish) above told, if cho can support a convict, no surprise about his article in Thuglaq
