This is the best chaste ever... Well educated, intelligent, hygenic, leaders etc etc.. all others are useless and hence are just trying anti brahmin stuff. If you dare why stop this nonsense and try something creative on your own instead of negative tactics. That does not work. The more you hate Brahmins or Brahminism, the more you talk and think abt it.. how sad for you guys... and if you reply to this, it shows you are a jobless antibrahmin who has no clue how to take care of things except talk abt brahmins.. adn if you mark this for abuse, your family etc will incur the wrath of brahmin families round the globe...and if you dare, try avoiding bramihns for a day in your life
RE:Brahmin's are great
by sreedhar venketraman on Apr 30, 2007 12:49 PM Permalink
dont u feel shame of achiever from a particular caste. Try to feel as u r achiever because u deserve for that, this is what periyar wanted all people to think over
RE:RE:Brahmin's are great
by rationalbeing being on Apr 30, 2007 12:47 PM Permalink
what periyar did not mention that the chaturvarna was first adopted according to the division of work,not on the basis of caste.in history,we would find several intercaste,even inter religious marriage including friendship between different communities-rajput king married a bhil girl,sri krishna was a yadav who married several khsatriya girls,akbar and jehangir married rajput hindus,sri ram had a friend like guhak who was a chandal,laxman got knowledge from ravana when he was in death bed.so ancient india was not full of casteism.jabal stayakam was welcomed by maharishi goutam who termed satyakam as brahmin(satyakam had no registered father),chandragupta maurya got the title from her mother who was a dasi and chandragupta maurya and samrat ashoka were not the representative of upper castes.sufi movement,bhakti movement was against casteism and religious narrowness.sri ramakrishna and swami vivekananda faught against casteism not balming the hinduism alone.so i think periyar missed and crossed the line.he could have mentioned the tolerism of hindus who gave place to other religious groups.there is not a single evidence in the ancient,medieval even in some parts of modern world in the field of religious tolerance in christian and islam country.also hinduism accomodated several different thoughts within a religion-here we have idol worship,nirakar god,even we get atheist philosophy,every person can woRship god in any foRm in this religion.hinduism is the only religion which never involved in forceful religious conversion.but pity is that periyar did not mention these positive sides.but sOme extent he spreaded a sense of hatred in the name of abolishing casteism.i donot know why.yes upper castes are very much responsible in many cases.but almost all of the great persons are from upper castes who made indians proud by their tallent,dedication not by their caste identity,what periyar also did not mention that many people from upper castes did several social reforms-RAJA RAMMOHAN ROY,ISWAR CHANDRA VIDYASAGAR were brahmin but did signficant social reform,sri ramakrishna vivekananda also did their best,upper caste personalities were greatly involved in the country's freedom struggle(subhas bose,tilak,nehru ,gandhi ,gokhale,bagha jatin,jatin das,lala ljpat and many names)where the leadership was maintained by them.even the great achiever of tamilnadu-srinivas ramanujam,cv raman was from upper castes.i donot know why he ignored all this.ok,but still he has a place in my mind for his movement for social justice which some extent changed as a movement of hatred at latter stage.
Till I read this interview I did not know that so called OBCs/ SC/STs were capable of differentiating 'Brahminism with Brahmins' or 'past injustices with current generation innocent forward caste people'. It seems like it took 80 years for them to articulate such a thing. May be in another 80 years, we might talk about abolishing reservations.
RE:EVR ANTI - INDAN
by Just Me on Apr 30, 2007 12:21 PM Permalink
Exactly. That theory has been perpetrated by British for their selfish gains. Read this for the greath truth http://www.stephen-knapp.com/death_of_the_aryan_invasion_theory.htm
RE:politics man
by sreedhar venketraman on Apr 30, 2007 12:27 PM Permalink
Caste based reservation is a kind of social equality it was in a need at that time even it is necessary as in india it is not possible to separate people based on economy. all people try to cheat by putting less income. Enen now all brahmin people put their caste as SC/ST to get into higher education. Basically brahmins are the source of cheating/cunning etc........
Thanks a lot. You helped us hit acheive all that we acheived. Today you might have died but your followers will ensure that people belonging to the OBC, SC/ST category dont develop for the next 100 years by giving them all the concessions.
And brahmins the harder u hit a ball on the ground the higher it bounces. He has pushed them harder. Given them no chance to be complacent and they have really proved their mettle. So thanks a lot periyar for all that you did to the brahmin community. If not for you we would not have acheived half of what we acheived today.
RE:Thank you periyar on behalf of all brahmins
by rationalbeing being on Apr 30, 2007 12:20 PM Permalink
what periyar did not mention that the chaturvarna was first adopted according to the division of work,not on the basis of caste.in history,we would find several intercaste,even inter religious marriage including friendship between different communities-rajput king married a bhil girl,sri krishna was a yadav who married several khsatriya girls,akbar and jehangir married rajput hindus,sri ram had a friend like guhak who was a chandal,laxman got knowledge from ravana when he was in death bed.so ancient india was not full of casteism.jabal stayakam was welcomed by maharishi goutam who termed satyakam as brahmin(satyakam had no registered father),chandragupta maurya got the title from her mother who was a dasi and chandragupta maurya and samrat ashoka were not the representative of upper castes.sufi movement,bhakti movement was against casteism and religious narrowness.sri ramakrishna and swami vivekananda faught against casteism not balming the hinduism alone.so i think periyar missed and crossed the line.he could have mentioned the tolerism of hindus who gave place to other religious groups.there is not a single evidence in the ancient,medieval even in some parts of modern world in the field of religious tolerance in christian and islam country.also hinduism accomodated several different thoughts within a religion-here we have idol worship,nirakar god,even we get atheist philosophy,every person can woeship god in any foem in this religion.hinduism is the only religion which never involved in forceful religious conversion.but pity is that periyar did not mention these positive sides.but sme extent he spreaded a sense of hatred in the name of abolishing casteism.i donot know why.yes upper castes are very much responsible in many cases.but almost all of the great persons are from upper castes who made indians proud by their tallent,dedication not by their caste identity,what periyar also did not mention that many people from upper castes did several social reforms-RAJA RAMMOHAN ROY,ISWAR CHANDRA VIDYASAGAR were brahmin but did siGnficant social reform,sri ramakrishna vivekananda also did their best,upper caste personalities were greatly involved in the country's freedom struggle(subhas bose,tilak,nehru ,gandhi ,gokhale,bagha jatin,jatin das,lala ljpat and many names)where the leadership was maintained by them.even the great achiever of tamilnadu-srinivas ramanujam,cv raman was from upper castes.i donot know why he ignored all this.ok,but still he has a place in my mind for his movement for social justice which some extent changed as a movement of hatred at latter stage.
RE:Thank you periyar on behalf of all brahmins
by sreedhar venketraman on Apr 30, 2007 12:18 PM Permalink
dont u feel shame of achiever from a particular caste. Try to feel as u r achiever because u deserve for that, this is what periyar wanted all people to think over
RE:Thank you periyar on behalf of all brahmins
by vijay kumar on Apr 30, 2007 12:48 PM Permalink
Sreedhar,
Brahmins are like australian team. Nobody might like them and everybody may abuse them but they succeed because of pure merit and hard work. Think 97% of the people are trying to hit 3% of the population it is called bravery. The fact that we still managed to acheive all that we acheived is real bravery.
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by rationalbeing being on Apr 30, 2007 12:23 PM Permalink
sreedhar brahmin achieved everything by merit,intelligence and hardwork.from 1999 AUSTRALIANS gave no chance to others in achieving the world cup,and if u tell them shameless who achieve world cup four times then u are living in the foolls world.
There was fight between Russians [USSR] and Americans after second world war i.e. CAPITALISM vs COMMUNISM. Countries in and around USSR became communists. INDIA was neutral. USSR wanted to make INDIA a communist country. They availed services of MR. EVR. EVR cashed in on the loophole called 'Caste system' to sell India to Russian Philosophy.
THE PROOF IS GIVEN BY RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE [not by Indian agencies)
the concept of brahminism have been thoroughly misconceived over a period of time. Brahminism or any other cast is not a birth right but a right of deed. The castes were the professions or responsibilities they used to discharge. One who master that profession is named after their caste. Just like doctor or lawyer. How brahminism is superior to all???becasue it matters study intense education and devotion and necessitated a certification.Unlike any other caste. Kshatriya is the one who rules which alo requires formal training in ruling. Vaishyas where teh experience is more important than education to do business. And Shudras, the caste who performs the labour work...So it is not a birth right to be in any caste but merely a right of deed. Ofcourse if any one wants to get married and 80..wow..thats real commn sense..Leaders ofcourse set an exaple to their followers.
He is a crackpot and didn't do anything good for the society. The only achievement was that he brought thugs like Anna , Karunanidhi etc.. to the power. The one good thing was MGR but he was believed god.
RE:Periyar is a nut
by rationalbeing being on Apr 30, 2007 12:13 PM Permalink
what periyar did not mention that the chaturvarna was first adopted according to the division of work,not on the basis of caste.in history,we would find several intercaste,even inter religious marriage including friendship between different communities-rajput king married a bhil girl,sri krishna was a yadav who married several khsatriya girls,akbar and jehangir married rajput hindus,sri ram had a friend like guhak who was a chandal,laxman got knowledge from ravana when he was in death bed.so ancient india was not full of casteism.jabal stayakam was welcomed by maharishi goutam who termed satyakam as brahmin(satyakam had no registered father),chandragupta maurya got the title from her mother who was a dasi and chandragupta maurya and samrat ashoka were not the representative of upper castes.sufi movement,bhakti movement was against casteism and religious narrowness.sri ramakrishna and swami vivekananda faught against casteism not balming the hinduism alone.so i think periyar missed and crossed the line.he could have mentioned the tolerism of hindus who gave place to other religious groups.there is not a single evidence in the ancient,medieval even in some parts of modern world in the field of religious tolerance in christian and islam country.also hinduism accomodated several different thoughts within a religion-here we have idol worship,nirakar god,even we get atheist philosophy,every person can woeship god in any foem in this religion.hinduism is the only religion which never involved in forceful religious conversion.but pity is that periyar did not mention these positive sides.but sme extent he spreaded a sense of hatred in the name of abolishing casteism.i donot know why.yes upper castes are very much responsible in many cases.but almost all of the great persons are from upper castes who made indians proud by their tallent,dedication not by their caste identity,what periyar also did not mention that many people from upper castes did several social reforms-RAJA RAMMOHAN ROY,ISWAR CHANDRA VIDYASAGAR were brahmin but did signficant social reform,sri ramakrishna vivekananda also did their best,upper caste personalities were greatly involved in the country's freedom struggle(subhas bose,tilak,nehru ,gandhi ,gokhale,bagha jatin,jatin das,lala ljpat and many names)where the leadership was maintained by them.even the great achiever of tamilnadu-srinivas ramanujam,cv raman was from upper castes.i donot know why he ignored all this.ok,but still he has a place in my mind for his movement for social justice which some extent changed as a movement of hatred at latter stage.
RE:Periyar is a nut
by Polisetty Ravishankar on Apr 30, 2007 12:19 PM Permalink
You are actual wasting yourtime dear rational being. Its a waste explaining.... we need a good danda (thick stick) to explain. If u have these plans in reckoning plz tell me - sairavishankar_9@rediffmail.com
RE:Periyar is a nut
by Rajagopalan on Apr 30, 2007 12:41 PM Permalink
Periyar was fomenting social unrest till he lived. Physical attack on Brahmins is the legacy developed by Periyar.
Any Social prevailing in the world has inherent drawbacks and modification have been brought with proper maturity and keeping the dignity of citizens.
He shown more hostility towards the social system than needful and balance appraoch. He against independence and want to become henchman of English. He is kannadiga by birth did not honour either Kannada or tamil language.
He brought self interested leaders like Annadurai, Karunanidhi and veeramani who have demaged tamil nadu and will take more than 100 years to recover from social unrest.
Mr Gynasekharan wasting his time like Periyar stirring the Garbage gets nothing.
U.G. Krishnamurthy also strived for social cause better than Periyar. He is no more now. Besides he does not want followers and missioneries and any other oraganisation like Dravidar Kazhagam to act as mouth piece.
Periyar is against Brahmins only and close friend other castes hindus to survive his cause. He has no guts to oppose other religions if it has many drawbacks. Whereas UGK has more dynamic than Periyar widely honoured persons in in the universe.
Periyar appraoch is problems are outside to be tackeled and set right. The problems are in the heart inside. To conclude Periyar himself is the problem to himself.
I think rediff gets the major hit count with such issues ,that's why it must have a marketing stratergy to include atleast one caste based article , religion based article and cricket based article . Coincidence I don't think so . Now that's brilliant ,rediff you can start your own political party you have understood the essence and character of Indian around the globe
