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The Fact about Brahmins
by Bangalorean on Apr 30, 2007 01:54 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The MANU SMRITI (BIBLE OF HINDUISM) says:

A) A Brahmin is born to fulfill Dharma. Whatever exists in the world is the property
of the Brahmin. On account of the excellence of his origin, he is entitled to all.
The Brahmin eats but his own food, wears but his own clothes. All mortals
subsist through the benevolence of the Brahmin.
B) Ignorant or learned, A Brahmin is still a great deity. To Brahmin, THE THREE
WORLDS AND THE God.S OWE THEIR EXISTENCE.

Dr. Ambedkar says the cardinal principles of Brahminism are six:

1. Graded inequality between the different classes.
2. Complete disarmament of Shudras and the untouchables.
3. Complete prohibition of education of the Shudras and the untouchables.
4. Ban on the Shudras and the untouchables occupying places of power and
authority.
5. Ban on the Shudras and the untouchables acquiring property.
6. Complete subjugation and suppression of women.
.Inequality is therefore the official doctrine of BRAHIMANIS. (IBID-204)

Devadhinarn jagat sarvam
Mantradhinam ta devata
Tam Mantram Brahmandhinam
Brahmana nam devata

Meaning:
The Universe is under the power of Gods.
The Gods are under the power of the mantras.
The mantras are under the power of the Brahmins.
Therefore the Brahmins are our Gods.

Abbe J.A. Dubois.s, .Hindu Manners, Customs and Ceremonies., Oxford. Third Edition
1906, Page 139.

Also Manu-VI1, 137:
.Let the king after rising early in the morning worship Brahmans who are well
versed in the three-fold sacred sciences and learned in policy and accept their
advice..

Again Manu . XI, 85:
.Brahman is the root of sacred law. By his origin alone he is a deity EVEN FOR
THE GodS and his word is authoritative for men..

ARE THE BRAHMINS SONS OF INDIAN SOIL?

No! They are invaders like the British and the Moghuls who entered India via Khyber
Pass to plunder its riches.

How clever are they when compared to the so - called low caste Hindus? They are
cleverer than the Jews. Why? Because the Jews with all their brain and might have yet
not settled. But the Brahmins who came from Central Asia are dividing and ruling
India without anyone noticing them.

The British have left India. But the higher caste Brahmin is still following the British
policy of .divide and rule., creating barriers of caste and creed. They have carved a
niche for themselves in India. At whose cost? At the cost of the poor, half clothed
starving lower caste Hindus.




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RE:The Fact about Brahmins
by Rajendra Yammanuru on Apr 30, 2007 02:02 PM  Permalink
Where did you get the Manu script. If you are not well versed with what Brahminisation is the do not swing your tongue. If you hate any on then keep your self away from them. You do not have any right to judge who the Brahmin is? How ignorant are you to say that Brahmin origins from Central Asia. Do not become a psychic with your hatred-phylosophy.

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RE:The Fact about Brahmins
by rocky on Apr 30, 2007 02:01 PM  Permalink
o body told any body to get supressed... just think.... Alll these supressed ppl were happy to be supressed... Who told them to be a slave..Our country became a slave to British becos of our fellow Indians...similarly these became slaves becos of their fellow caste ppl... These stories told so that they can enjoy the benifits now....Without doing any anything they want seats in IIM and IIT based on their supression some 50 yrs back.. As u can see even now they re happy to be supressed, they very happy to be a OBC/SC/ST...afterall they re enjoying a benifits of being the same.


My overall pt, they re happy being a backward class/supressed class....Dont blame Brahmins for ur Laziness.. Go and do work, study well....and try a get a seat in IIT/IIM though merit... Dont blame Brahmins for ur failures in life..It is ur own life and u have to decide where u shuld go.. no body can stop u..

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by Vijay Kumar on Apr 30, 2007 02:17 PM  Permalink
If you are interested to be in happy stage because of suppressed, jus enjoy and dont critisize others those want to become LIBERATED from the suppression of the BRAHMINISM

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RE:The Fact about Brahmins
by Ram Sharma on Apr 30, 2007 02:01 PM  Permalink
u r saying brahmins came from central asia. mankind is said to have originated from africa. u first go back there and then ask others to follow. it is no use talking nonsence. no one really knows who came from where thousands of years ago.
let us forget casteism. now no one makes disctinction on basis of caste at least in urban areas. if there is no reservation on caste basis, everyone will forget caste. if at all reservation shaould be on economic conditions for all half clothed indians

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RE:The Fact about Brahmins
by Vijay Kumar on Apr 30, 2007 02:16 PM  Permalink
well said

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RE:The Fact about Brahmins
by rationalbeing being on Apr 30, 2007 02:17 PM  Permalink
AND YOU LOWER CASTES ARE HOLY COWS.THE POLITICIANS FROM YOUR CLASSES ARE CORRUPTED AND REPEATEDLY DIVIDING THIS COUNTRY IN THE NAME OF CASTE CREED RELIGION,EVEN THEY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR SUPREME COURT

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RE:The Fact about Brahmins
by Rajesh t on Apr 30, 2007 02:06 PM  Permalink
for more info please chk out dalitistan website which has been banned by GOI
u will get a lot more dalit reformer crap there...



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RE:The Fact about Brahmins
by Rallabhandy Ravindranath on Apr 30, 2007 02:29 PM  Permalink
Dear friend, you are just read and wrote a very long notes on it. In practicality, leave the caste Brahmins and take a look at dalits. there are a number of sub-castes in Dalits. You may be astonished, if you are a FC, that one sub-caste people will not allow the other sub-caste will not allow the other to fetch water from their community well. This is the rule they thoroughly follow as die-hards. You are saying that the other OBCs and FCs should treat the Dalits as equals. First of all, you please make them equal among themselves and ask other castes to follow the suit as the proverb says, Chairty begins from home.

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We, and those buggers (political leaders) are the same !!! ho ho ha ha !!!
by Milind Kotwal on Apr 30, 2007 01:54 PM  Permalink 

Why no political leader is ready to define what type of future we want for the people of this country, why are we fighting with each other and spoiling our tomorrow..

Will it not be right for us to define our future and move ahead..

If none of us want caste system, demolish all caste based organizations, jail all those who lead caste based agitations, burn all those scriptures that promote birth based division of society...

We do not have a single leader who understands this simple logic...

Ho, ho ANd we think we are going to super power...

If we do not change our mindset, India and our people are going to suffer as

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RE:The Bitter Truth
by Raju Ban Gaya Gentleman on Apr 30, 2007 01:56 PM  Permalink
and u r a fu**ker who has nothing else to do than divide india.

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RE:The Bitter Truth
by m on Apr 30, 2007 01:58 PM  Permalink
Same to you

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RE:The Bitter Truth
by Warrior on Apr 30, 2007 02:02 PM  Permalink
Raju Ban Gaya F**Kkerman cange ur name please

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RE:The Bitter Truth
by Rajesh t on Apr 30, 2007 02:24 PM  Permalink
Why be so bitter? Go become a Buddhist and shun it but alas u wont get the Reservation
that u take for granted Sadly most intelligent deserving dalits are too poor to even get basic education forget reservation as they have to take care of their families at younger age and are never really guieded well
Most rich or super rich dalits take advantage
of reservation and with 45% marks think they can do medicine and engineering
Sost flunk first yr and quit a rare few suicide and most just survive precariously on kts and finish a 5 yr cource in 9 or 10 yrs ...

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EVR was anti dalit
by kumar kn on Apr 30, 2007 01:53 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

'One of the main reasons why there is an upward trend in the prices of clothes and textiles is that women belonging to the Scheduled Castes (Parachies) have started wearing blouses these days. The reason for growing unemployment in society is on account of increasing number of people belonging to Scheduled Castes (Parayans) taking to school education and higher education'.

'The attempt to promote 'temple entry' and 'abolition of untouchability' by the Congress leaders should not result in the tragedy of people belonging to the backward classes getting reduced to the level of scheduled castes. Instead of attempting to raise the status of Scheduled Castes (Parayans), an attempt should not be made to reduce the status of backward Class (Sudrans) by relegating them to the levels of Scheduled Castes. On no account should the existing status of Sudrans be reduced to the level of Parayans'.



http://www.tamilnation.org/hundredtamils/periyar/sundaram.htm

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RE:EVR was anti dalit
by Rajesh t on Apr 30, 2007 02:10 PM  Permalink
wat a bunch of crap
if ur or tamilnations crap is to be taken at face value, as economy progresses and wealth increases studies show people wear lesser shorter clothes - that too with the bollywood bandwagon, dont talk abt the plunging necklines and super micro minis of south films


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Periyar was a disgarce
by vivek balasubramanian on Apr 30, 2007 01:53 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

This forum is filled with Brahmin bashers.Are not other castes in Tamilnadu Racist.Do the thevars get along with the Dalits.Do the vanniyars get along with the Dalits.The point is let us not generalize.There are a lot of Brahmins who just carry on with their lives.I actually think that the hatred towards the Brahmins is far greater among other castes than the Brahmins hating them.

So don't blame the Brahmins for everything.

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RE:Periyar was a disgarce
by snehal shete on Apr 30, 2007 02:20 PM  Permalink
very well said..

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RE:one fool and his followers
by snehal shete on Apr 30, 2007 02:21 PM  Permalink
plz try to find this information first about urself..

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RE:RE:one fool and his followers
by India fan on Apr 30, 2007 05:24 PM  Permalink
dafdasd

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m here
by m on Apr 30, 2007 01:52 PM  Permalink 

1. Focus on WHAT and not on WHO.
2. This is NOT about YOU and ME.

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Periyar
by unni krishnan nair on Apr 30, 2007 01:51 PM  Permalink 

It is interesting to note that Periyar has such an influence in Tamil Nadue. But the tragedy is going by what is happneing in Tamil Nadu today his life and mission appears to be a failure. Tamil Nadu today is what he was against. We see a Tamil Nadu with cast as the only factor. Even the Dravida parties also working on caste lines. The only thing which seem to have survived is anti-Braminism.



His philosophy was born of hate and bred hate.

But we can not forget that he made history and gave a new direction to Tamil politics.

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Politics against Brahmins
by pala on Apr 30, 2007 01:49 PM  Permalink 

Who know he is against Brahimns or not but these politicians and media - print /electronic will say that Periyar against the brahminism. It is who made the cast politics. we should understand. Somebody was committed a mistake and next all generation this effect will come how it is correct. If such message will got to Air then there big widen between forward and dalit community. One sided we are talking in all public meetings BROTHER AND SIGHERS but other side we are saying the He[Periyyar] against the Brahmins . If both the community wants to living unitedly but media and politicans spoil the nation in the name of case religion and unncessary trobule wants creat each other.

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